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Re: Julian Alaphilippe

09 Jun 2016 16:10

therealthing wrote:Blimey- beat Bouhanni, Bennett, Degenkolb and co. in a sprint today!

He would have won the stage if he had another 10 meters... :eek:
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Re: Julian Alaphilippe

09 Jun 2016 16:17

Irondan wrote:
therealthing wrote:Blimey- beat Bouhanni, Bennett, Degenkolb and co. in a sprint today!

He would have won the stage if he had another 10 meters... :eek:


Yup. But lets not forget that it was a 2% sprint which was why EBH was able to win, I think the clinic many times just simplifies things like that without the important details. I thought it had to be a little steeper for Alaphil to do this well, thats for sure. He is an incredible talent and sure has some insane explosiveness, no matter the gradient it seems.
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09 Jun 2016 17:33

flying on the climbs, without losing his sprint edge... good for him
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09 Jun 2016 18:00

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Re: Julian Alaphilippe

09 Jun 2016 19:40

Bouhani said before he stage that he didn't have good legs yesterday and finishing behind EBH is probably equivalent to finishing around 7th on a TdF sprint. I also think it was not a very clean last km even after the crash, so several different sprinters were nowhere at the end.

This guy is worth watching closely but this was far less dubious to me than Movistar's Herrada making everyone look like boys on his uphill stage finish at stage 2. If Allaphillipe was boosted for this race you'd have thought he'd have been very competitive on that stage. He came in 28th.
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08 Mar 2017 16:00

So what's he on? Haribo? Cadbury's? Lindt? Nestle's?
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08 Mar 2017 16:09

He's on his bike working his *** off.

What are you on?
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08 Mar 2017 16:11

fmk_RoI wrote:So what's he on? Haribo? Cadbury's? Lindt? Nestle's?


Ferrero.
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08 Mar 2017 16:17

JA is in the driver's seat for the biggest win in his career, It's nice to see fresh faces rising to the top.
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08 Mar 2017 16:22

Irondan wrote: It's nice to see fresh faces rising to the top.

And a big shame that there are no arguments left to believe in them.
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08 Mar 2017 16:31

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Irondan wrote: It's nice to see fresh faces rising to the top.

And a big shame that there are no arguments left to believe in them.

Agreed. There's no reason whatsoever to believe that Quickstep doesn't have a TUE/Kenacort program that hasn't been exposed... yet....
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08 Mar 2017 16:41

Irondan wrote:
sniper wrote:
Irondan wrote: It's nice to see fresh faces rising to the top.

And a big shame that there are no arguments left to believe in them.

Agreed. There's no reason whatsoever to believe that Quickstep doesn't have a TUE/Kenacort program that hasn't been exposed... yet....


They may have also wrongly received a delivery of Testosterone patches :rolleyes:
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08 Mar 2017 16:47

Benotti69 wrote:
Irondan wrote:
sniper wrote:
Irondan wrote: It's nice to see fresh faces rising to the top.

And a big shame that there are no arguments left to believe in them.

Agreed. There's no reason whatsoever to believe that Quickstep doesn't have a TUE/Kenacort program that hasn't been exposed... yet....


They may have also wrongly received a delivery of Testosterone patches :rolleyes:

Of course, that's because it's common for pro cycling teams to get erroneous shipments of performance enhancing drugs. Quick Step sends the mistaken shipments back to the sender, as all pro teams do... :p
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08 Mar 2017 19:24

Why was the testosterone patches made such a big deal? Haven't really followed news. Even Riccardo Ricco wouldn't be stupid enough to use test nowdays, you can't even micro dose it in any good way
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08 Mar 2017 19:37

Gloin22 wrote:Why was the testosterone patches made such a big deal? Haven't really followed news. Even Riccardo Ricco wouldn't be stupid enough to use test nowdays, you can't even micro dose it in any good way


Probably a big deal just for the comedy value as much as anything.

One of the key components of a traditional doping regime just happened to be sent to them by mistake. Beggars belief alongside 'my dog ate my laptop' etc.
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08 Mar 2017 19:39

Irondan wrote:JA is in the driver's seat for the biggest win in his career, It's nice to see fresh faces rising to the top.


Not in this way though. Winning everything from sprints to ITTs. And that Rio performance was pretty ridiculous too.
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08 Mar 2017 19:40

Gloin22 wrote:Why was the testosterone patches made such a big deal? Haven't really followed news. Even Riccardo Ricco wouldn't be stupid enough to use test nowdays, you can't even micro dose it in any good way


If the President of your sporting Union was part of the setting up of your professional team, ran the same national union and was part of the team, has vested interests, you can pretty much use anything! who gets tested?

Cookson such a joke when it comes to the serious issues of the sport and not just doping.....
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08 Mar 2017 19:43

QS has always been high on my list of suspicious teams; if they were a GC-team, instead of classics specialists, then they would've probably received a lot more attention.

QS, if there's a team that is old school, it's them.
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Strange Loop wrote:QS has always been high on my list of suspicious teams; if they were a GC-team, instead of classics specialists, then they would've probably received a lot more attention.

QS, if there's a team that is old school, it's them.


Yep, it's just a given. And Allaphillipe is also just a given. Some of the other young talented Frenchies I could keep an open mind on; but JA is exactly as you say - old school.
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09 Mar 2017 20:05

The funny thing about QS and doping is that PL claims that it was doping stopped his riders from ever really having a chance at the GC in GTs. As if, like Fabs, he believed there was no doping in the Classics. (I'll dig out the quote later, I think I have it lying around somewhere.) Also worth pointing out that there are plenty of stories about doping at PL's teams. And there are plenty of stories of PL being awarded damages in consequence of those stories. So, tread carefully...

Edit - that quote:
"With the new UCI points system, the Classics riders are actually discriminated against. But if you look at the podiums of the big tours in the past, there was always some trouble, and I didn't want to be involved in that. But times are changing, and with the biological passport system, I think it's increasingly possible to ride well in the major tours clean."
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