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Geraint Thomas, the next british hope

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14 Jul 2015 18:08

the sceptic wrote:not my fault the mods are afraid to upset the delicate feelings of skyfans.

the most doped up performance in cycling history deserves all the attention it can get.


Attention is certainly warranted...

Maybe mods think that attention is better spent if not scattered all over the place.... ;)

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Re: Geraint Thomas, the next british hope

14 Jul 2015 18:21



So he could have went harder but decided not to pull Valverde up the mountain.
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14 Jul 2015 18:39

from a classics rider & contender

to a gt rider and contender

in one year

podium for g. thomas in 2016
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14 Jul 2015 18:40

Benotti69 wrote:
Punkan wrote:G has been climbing well this year, shouldn't be that much of a surprise that he could do what he did today. In Paris-Nice he was second behind Porte on stage 4 with a MTF, beating guys like TJVG, Kwia (in form), Costa, Fuglsang, Bardet, Aru. In TDS he also climbed well.


Why was he not climbing well earlier in his career? Former Grupetto fodder.

Didn't want the big money contract till Sky came along and transformed him at 30? So was lazy and didn't train or eat the proper foods, too much nutella....


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14 Jul 2015 18:43

are we still calling all this facade marginal gains

seems so 2013
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14 Jul 2015 18:45

ChewbaccaDefense wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
Punkan wrote:G has been climbing well this year, shouldn't be that much of a surprise that he could do what he did today. In Paris-Nice he was second behind Porte on stage 4 with a MTF, beating guys like TJVG, Kwia (in form), Costa, Fuglsang, Bardet, Aru. In TDS he also climbed well.


Why was he not climbing well earlier in his career? Former Grupetto fodder.

Didn't want the big money contract till Sky came along and transformed him at 30? So was lazy and didn't train or eat the proper foods, too much nutella....


Special pillows, don't forget the special ******** pillows...


:D and washing hands.......
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Re: Geraint Thomas, the next british hope

14 Jul 2015 18:47

AICA ribonucleotide wrote:


So he could have went harder but decided not to pull Valverde up the mountain.

Also, "... kind of got stuck behind Tejay ...".
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14 Jul 2015 18:51

JackRabbitSlims wrote:are we still calling all this facade marginal gains

seems so 2013


seems so 1999...................
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14 Jul 2015 18:56

I knew when I saw Thomas ride for Barloworld, I knew he was a future mountain goat. People of Italy, Spain etc if you want to be good at climbing mountains get your guys to do the team pursuit for a few years then, BOOOOOOM.
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14 Jul 2015 19:05

Think we might get ahead of ourselves here. G hasn't proven that he can hang with best on a real mountain stage with several hard climbs. To me it isn't totally unexpected that G could do something like this on one climb. He is a fairly skinny rider with a great engine. Compare his performance with Gallopin, another rider that weighs around 70 kilos: G beat Gallopin with 21 seconds today. If G is 5th on a stage like stage 12, I start raising some eyebrows.
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14 Jul 2015 19:12

Yea, it is too early to tell.
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14 Jul 2015 19:13

JackRabbitSlims wrote:from a classics rider & contender

to a gt rider and contender

in one year

podium for g. thomas in 2016

You mean podium in 2015, right?
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14 Jul 2015 19:13

Punkan wrote:Think we might get ahead of ourselves here. G hasn't proven that he can hang with best on a real mountain stage with several hard climbs. To me it isn't totally unexpected that G could do something like this on one climb. He is a fairly skinny rider with a great engine. Compare his performance with Gallopin, another rider that weighs around 70 kilos: G beat Gallopin with 21 seconds today. If G is 5th on a stage like stage 12, I start raising some eyebrows.


I take it you're a fan, calling him G?

Thomas today said he could gone much better but was told to stay behind Piti. So 21 secs on Gallopin could have been nearly a minute if he was allowed to go.
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14 Jul 2015 19:21

JackRabbitSlims wrote:from a classics rider & contender

to a gt rider and contender

in one year

podium for g. thomas in 2016

What do you mean, "from-to"? He does it all in the same year: competing in GC and cobbled classics alike, 5° or 35°C, 500 m long climbs or 15000 m long climbs, two races a week or one each day. No problem.
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14 Jul 2015 19:25

Jagartrott wrote:
JackRabbitSlims wrote:from a classics rider & contender

to a gt rider and contender

in one year

podium for g. thomas in 2016

What do you mean, "from-to"? He does it all in the same year: competing in GC and cobbled classics alike, 5° or 35°C, 500 m long climbs or 15000 m long climbs, two races a week or one each day. No problem.


excuse me

i agree

I think we are saying

the exact same thing

sorry for the confusion
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14 Jul 2015 19:31

Jagartrott wrote:
JackRabbitSlims wrote:from a classics rider & contender

to a gt rider and contender

in one year

podium for g. thomas in 2016

What do you mean, "from-to"? He does it all in the same year: competing in GC and cobbled classics alike, 5° or 35°C, 500 m long climbs or 15000 m long climbs, two races a week or one each day. No problem.


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14 Jul 2015 20:01

Punkan wrote:Think we might get ahead of ourselves here. G hasn't proven that he can hang with best on a real mountain stage with several hard climbs. To me it isn't totally unexpected that G could do something like this on one climb. He is a fairly skinny rider with a great engine. Compare his performance with Gallopin, another rider that weighs around 70 kilos: G beat Gallopin with 21 seconds today. If G is 5th on a stage like stage 12, I start raising some eyebrows.

Rettenbachferner glacier seems like a real mountain stage to me and he was hanging with the best (5th place). In today's stage that destroyed real climbers, he rolled on by them to 6th place. Again, he was with the best. This was 6 weeks after contending for the biggest spring classics. Not normal, my eyebrows are raised...

Edit: Gallopin could be the next one with a page in the clinic, so that proves nothing.. :D
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14 Jul 2015 20:41

why "british" in thread title?
maybe all this noise is because the natural order is demolished? it happens, get over it.
empires rise and die, nothing is eternal
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14 Jul 2015 21:07

Hard to see how the ride today is not anything but has highly suspicious as one can get, especially when it is combined with what Froome and Porte did as well. Thomas has been able to climb a bit for a while but this year he is a real climber not someone who can put in a huge effort to get over a mountain with in a group. Still he might not do as well on stages to follow.
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14 Jul 2015 21:44

Wonder is Fran Millar scanning the clinic to report back to Brailsford? Probably.
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