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02 Jun 2017 00:08

luckyboy wrote:This Pellizotti tweet - https://twitter.com/francopelli/status/760966800205045760

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I have some basic Italian understanding but not fluent to understand the nuances, but seems like he didn't believe Portuguese riders were strong after all his experience but now he is coming round to believing them & #nocomment.

I guess that's enough to go in this thread


i forgot about this. this is awesome. from pack fodder at the Volta to one of the best domestiques at the entire Giro. those biopassports must make JTL's look like he was on bread and water.
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04 Jun 2017 18:07

Since this has been bumped ill point to the new star on the horizon for W-52, 31-year old Spaniard Raul Alarcon. Hes been on a rampage lately. Hes had a quiet first 10 years of his career but is finally hitting his stride.

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This could become an epic showdown with Veloso in the Volta.
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04 Jun 2017 21:37

What's Alarcon's official story? Presumably even in Portugal a rider who transforms like this in his thirties must get asked about it and will have an explanation for his inability to discover his apparent super talent for a decade.
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04 Jun 2017 21:44

Zinoviev Letter wrote:What's Alarcon's official story? Presumably even in Portugal a rider who transforms like this in his thirties must get asked about it and will have an explanation for his inability to discover his apparent super talent for a decade.


Well, no one asks because everyone knows the answer.

Remember that Alarcon (and Antunes I think) were pulled out of W52 team for Vuelta a Castilla y Leon after Belda's positive. The week after, Alarcon smashed the opposition at GP Jornal de Notícias, winning 2 or 3 stages and the GC with ease.

W52 dominance this year in Portugal has been utterly ridiculous. I'm at the point where I can only laugh about it.
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04 Jun 2017 23:17

Don't forget one of the best at staying with Balarcón, both at Asturias and here, was João Benta, who is the same age, was given a 3 year ban after a positive in 2010, nobody picked him up for 2014 at all, then he bounced back with Boavista winning Torres Vedras in 2015.

As for Balarcón, he went pro with Saunier Duval, and wasn't considered worth keeping after the budget cuts when they became Fuji-Servetto in 2009. He's been a serviceable enough helper in Portugal, with the occasional decent-ish result (12th in Asturias and winning a stage of the Trofeu Agostinho in 2011, winning a stage of the Volta in 2013, but it seems like he's pressed the afterburners in July last year, vaulting to the podium of Torres Vedras and 4th in the Volta despite domestiquing, and of course this year with Vinhas being a fluke winner of the Volta and César not being interested in anything until July at least, he's suddenly become the man of the hour. Funny you should mention Belda, when of course his emergence into his 30s at Castilla y León in 2014 is a good comparison to make to Alarcón, though with Iberian cycling's calendars seemingly improving at the moment there's more races for W52 to strut their stuff at, and they're seemingly trying to go full Milaneza at the moment. And let's face it, Belda was hardly a surprise.
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27 Jul 2017 16:43

Joni Brandão out of Volta a Portugal due to "clinical/medical reasons". No more info given by the athlete or his team... Makes us wonder... :o
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27 Jul 2017 20:35

Ricco' wrote:Joni Brandão out of Volta a Portugal due to "clinical/medical reasons". No more info given by the athlete or his team... Makes us wonder... :o

Oh Joni...
Seriously, it's a bit of a bummer, who will go toe to toe with the full retard W52 team if he's not racing.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if he took some risks durning his preparation for la Grandissima and something went wrong.
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27 Jul 2017 21:13

Ricco' wrote:Joni Brandão out of Volta a Portugal due to "clinical/medical reasons". No more info given by the athlete or his team... Makes us wonder... :o


Some dutch guy on twitter says Brandao was assaulted with a bat and has a broken arm
Someone else is saying he got his news mixed up and that it was some other rider on a portuguese team but no name is mentioned

Either way, what the hell? Who assaults a rider with a bat? and why?
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27 Jul 2017 22:05

GuyIncognito wrote:
Ricco' wrote:Joni Brandão out of Volta a Portugal due to "clinical/medical reasons". No more info given by the athlete or his team... Makes us wonder... :o


Some dutch guy on twitter says Brandao was assaulted with a bat and has a broken arm
Someone else is saying he got his news mixed up and that it was some other rider on a portuguese team but no name is mentioned

Either way, what the hell? Who assaults a rider with a bat? and why?


That was Luis Mendonça, from Louletano.

Apparently, the ******* behind the wheel decided to run over the group where Mendonça was riding. The ******* with a licence to kill decided to wait at front and the riders asked him why he done that. Then, the retarded driver started to attack the cyclists with the bat and Mendonça's arm was broken when he tried to defend himself from the attack.
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10 Aug 2017 19:10

Got to bump this with the amazing solo of 41-year old Rui Sousa managing to stay clear of the mighty W52/Ballan train. This race always delivers.

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10 Aug 2017 19:50

Why does anybody still bother watching the Volta is beyond me.

It's not even funny anymore. Cancer.
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10 Aug 2017 21:03

Why don't World Tour teams sign these guys? Sure they may be doping but, according to most here, aren't all the top riders doping.
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10 Aug 2017 21:08

The prohibitive cost of subtlety.
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10 Aug 2017 21:27

Parker wrote:Why don't World Tour teams sign these guys? Sure they may be doping but, according to most here, aren't all the top riders doping.

Apparently it's not as blatant on the World Tour teams...
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11 Aug 2017 02:43

Parker wrote:Why don't World Tour teams sign these guys? Sure they may be doping but, according to most here, aren't all the top riders doping.


They are? What makes you think that they may be doping?
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14 Aug 2017 16:31

Not even Gewiss was this ridiculous. They blew the race apart 80k from the finish and with 3 guys managed to gain 5 minutes on a much bigger chasing group who went full gas.

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14 Aug 2017 17:52

Well, Nuno's got to do something to get heat off his own ridiculous exploits, right?

The thing I love most is that W52's own website describes Balarcón as a rouleur. Not even an all-rounder like César Veloso or António Carvalho.
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14 Aug 2017 17:52

Absolutely hilarious. This is just taking the p1ss.
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14 Aug 2017 17:53

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Absolutely hilarious. This is just taking the p1ss.


Still not as ridiculous as Paris-Tours 2004 but close
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14 Aug 2017 17:54

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Absolutely hilarious. This is just taking the p1ss.


It's a little easier to do when the field is not as strong but still ridiculous.
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