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Re: The twilight zone called Portugal.

20 Apr 2016 14:58

No mention of Joni Brandao @ Castilla/Leon, what do you guys think...suspicious? :confused:
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Re: The twilight zone called Portugal.

20 Apr 2016 17:04

TMobile41 wrote:No mention of Joni Brandao @ Castilla/Leon, what do you guys think...suspicious? :confused:


Don't think so, has been progressing over the years and the performances are quite standard.

On the other hand he was second at last year's Volta a Portugal albeit quite far from MotorVeloso.
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20 Apr 2016 17:11

He was one of the 6.7 w/kg guys last year on senhora da graca so there you go.
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20 Apr 2016 17:45

That he was so good at Castilla y León makes him less suspicious than the rest of the Portuguese (August) torpedos. Anyway, the terrain in CyL is the type you would say suits Joni a couple of years ago and where he had shown to be most promising. I'm happy he (and a couple of other Portuguese guys) could pull this, it's one less eyebrow I have frown at their Volta performances (controls being rigged for national riders, not daring going full retard outside the country)...
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09 Jul 2016 23:11

Troféu Joaquim Agostinho's last stage is tomorrow. It's the DL or TdS for the Volta a Portugal and as always W52 (Porto) are nowhere near the level of dominance they usually present at the Volta. Gustavo Veloso in particular is more than one minute behind people he'll beat by minutes in the real deal... Brace yourselves for another retard fest...
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10 Jul 2016 00:45

Sure, César was down on Montejunto which he won't be next month, but he was 2nd in the chrono behind a teammate (Rafa Reis) and W52 won today's stage with Raúl Alarcón too. 2/3 stages ain't bad for a team whose leader is laying low ready to lay waste to the bunch next month.
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10 Jul 2016 01:00

Surely the highlight has got to be Nocentini in yellow. Finally Tavira will be joining the particle accelerator after the last disappointing years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH9HA9AI_RI
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10 Jul 2016 03:13

Yeah, sure but Rafael Reis winning the chrono is no big surprise specially in Portugal where the competition is so bad and even Alarcón winning today not a shock. The big thing is the disparity between the team in the mountains at Volta or in stage races like this. Winning stages that fit your riders is one thing, having 6 out of 10 guys in a group on a really hard mountain stage is another.

Nocentini in yellow is also a joke but I'll wait until he follows the more retarded guys to pass my final judgement. I wasn't implying W52 were the only ones that doped in no way.
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26 Jul 2016 10:51

Fairly sure the race topic for the Volta in PRR should be merged into this thread.
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26 Jul 2016 15:27

Cannibal72 wrote:Fairly sure the race topic for the Volta in PRR should be merged into this thread.


yes sir
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26 Jul 2016 16:48

Cannibal72 wrote:Fairly sure the race topic for the Volta in PRR should be merged into this thread.

portugese cycling has been cleaned up tremendously in the past 6 years.
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31 Jul 2016 15:51

Pre-emptive bump..
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31 Jul 2016 16:23

Nossa Senhora da Graça be like: ''Why always me''.
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31 Jul 2016 16:34

If you think anything Fraudoome does is retarded please watch the PIG, Doposo, sprinting at almost 40 km/h (52 seconds on the last 500m) in a fairly hard climb.
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31 Jul 2016 16:59

Parrulo wrote:http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/cinco-casos-de-dopaje-en-portugal-24-11-2015?loc=

According to Jornal "A'Bola" there are 6 bio passport related doping cases in Portugal. All 5 guys will be called later this month to testify.

If we look earlier in this thread, it shouldn't be hard to find some of those names. . .


btw what happened with these hearings? Obviously nobody was banned or we would've heard about it at some point
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31 Jul 2016 17:03

PhiLiz wrote:If you think anything Fraudoome does is retarded please watch the PIG, Doposo, sprinting at almost 40 km/h (52 seconds on the last 500m) in a fairly hard climb.

The biggest difference between the Tour and the Volta is the prohibitive cost of subtlety.
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01 Aug 2016 23:40

Libertine Seguros wrote:
PhiLiz wrote:If you think anything Fraudoome does is retarded please watch the PIG, Doposo, sprinting at almost 40 km/h (52 seconds on the last 500m) in a fairly hard climb.

The biggest difference between the Tour and the Volta is the prohibitive cost of subtlety.


I know our Volta is really a farse but at least just do this huge differences in the itt's... I'm not checking this buy don't think he has ever finished outside top 10 I'm any stage. I mean, it's just ludicrous such level of dominance. Just retire or have a carrier ending crash already.

I know it sounds bad but we've been having 10 years of idiots like Nuno Ribeiro (w52 DD of course) or washed up mid 30's spanish donks turning into Dawgs.
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03 Aug 2016 16:45

This is so frustrating. Even more so than Sky at the Tour. Here's a guy who's giving it all, going 80km's out in the queen stage having his chances sabotaged by the collective might of w52. Despite the chase, they manage to put 3 guys in the freaking top 5.

And what about Ricardo Mestre, who's been an absolute non-factor everywhere he's been since winning the Volta, returns to Tavira last year only to flop and now has the climbing legs of his life? He'd be in contention if he wasn't doing domestique work.

Absolute vomit of a race despite the good racing by one or two teams.

Edit: oh well, since it's hard to believe Joni is on pan y água I got to hand it to César, because he's been the superior rider. Just think it'd be much closer without an über-strong postal train.
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03 Aug 2016 17:34

Looking at the results, having only watched Senhora live, this still seems x5 the race than the French kermesse in July.... THAT was an absolute vomit of a race. Not necessarily because of Sky, but because of Quintana and Contador. At least Joni tries and is capable.
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04 Aug 2016 21:18

This Pellizotti tweet - https://twitter.com/francopelli/status/760966800205045760

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I have some basic Italian understanding but not fluent to understand the nuances, but seems like he didn't believe Portuguese riders were strong after all his experience but now he is coming round to believing them & #nocomment.

I guess that's enough to go in this thread
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