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Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

27 Sep 2015 22:43

In Your Opinion What's The Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years aka The Clean Era? lol
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Re: Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

27 Sep 2015 22:51

euroking wrote:In Your Opinion What's The Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years aka The Clean Era? lol

In order:

1. Froome 2013 TdF
2. Cancellara 2010 Flanders/Roubaix Double
3. Gilbert Ardennes Quadruple 2011
4. Wigans 2012 TdF
5. Contador 2011 Giro
6. Boonen 2012 Flanders/Roubaix Double

That's my top 6...
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27 Sep 2015 23:01

No Horner?!?!?!
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27 Sep 2015 23:08

Horner, Cobo, Gilbert's whole 2011 season.
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27 Sep 2015 23:09

The total suspiciousness of a performance is a function of many variables that also include rider characteristics like their age and career trajectory. Are you just talking about the performance or total suspiciousness?


Even without having that clarified, I'm pretty sure my answer is going to be either Horner's Vuelta or Dawg's 2013 Tour. I think Horner's age would make the 2013 Vuelta and especially his Angliru ride a clear winner if Froome didn't have such an absurd career trajectory. A transformation almost without equal.
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27 Sep 2015 23:11

SeriousSam wrote:The total suspiciousness of a performance is a function of many variables that also include rider characteristics like their age and career trajectory. Are you just talking about the performance or total suspiciousness?


Even without having that clarified, I'm pretty sure my answer is going to be either Horner's Vuelta or Dawg's 2013 Tour.

All of the above bro
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27 Sep 2015 23:15

I'm assuming you mean an unsanctioned/not-caught yet?. As in, Iglinsky's LBL, or Di Luca/Menchov Giro wins won't count as suspicious, (because it is confirmed)?

I started thinking about it, but realized it'd be easier to list off races which we are confident had a clean winner.

And maybe the most audacious performance would be a better question? To really filter out those Horner-type performances? It would separate out Impey for example, who carries a ton of suspicion but not because of the level of his performances, from someone like Dan Martin who performs at a high level but is generally considered less suspicious (whether you agree or not). Or Kittel, who's wins of them selves aren't (weren't...) suspicious but his circumstances are.
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27 Sep 2015 23:57

I am curious re: people mentioning Dawg's 2013 Tour? If they let him go he would have won in 2012, I reckon.

And Wiggo's 2009 Tour was against a definitely doped Contador and Armstrong, and a wtf Andy Schleck .
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28 Sep 2015 00:21

Let's see, my top 3
1. Horner at 41 years old wins Vuelta
2. Horner at 41 wins his first GT, or for that matter, hell, his first GT podium
3. Horner becomes oldest GT winner ever (by a wide margin)
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28 Sep 2015 01:02

robow7 wrote:Let's see, my top 3
1. Horner at 41 years old wins Vuelta
2. Horner at 41 wins his first GT, or for that matter, hell, his first GT podium
3. Horner becomes oldest GT winner ever (by a wide margin)


Another one where the circumstances add to the suspicion. Horner's (and Kreuziger's) Biopassport data do way more to make them suspicious than any w/kg could. Froome would need to puff an inhaler during a GT, then release spirometry and methacholine tests showing how clearly un-asthmatic he is.

And then reassure us that he doesn't even know what the data means.

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Re: Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

28 Sep 2015 01:51

Froome is the most ridiculous rider in the last 5 years if not 25 years. Of course when the data hack occurred we found his heart rate barely gets out of bed! So not normal ;)

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28 Sep 2015 02:57

Libertine Seguros wrote:No Horner?!?!?!

Crud! That's some oversight :p Put him in as third, after Cyber-Dawg and the Swiss motor bike :p

That makes it:

1. Froome 2013 TdF
2. Cancellara 2010 E3/Flanders/Roubaix Triple
3. Horner 2013 Vuelta
4. Gilbert Ardennes Quadruple 2011
5. Wigans 2012 TdF
6. Contador 2011 Giro
7. Boonen 2012 Flanders/Roubaix Double
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28 Sep 2015 03:35

along with some of the aforementioned GT winnings, etc... I'd throw in; LRP on Ax3, Thomas' little climbing show demolishing Quintana, et al in this year's TdF, and probably the last 5 years of Valverde's continuous clean riding improvements over his former doped period...
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28 Sep 2015 04:09

Froome 2011 - till now
Gilbert's Wonder Year - what a difference a stance on cortico's can make
Iglinsky LBL - yeah, sure
Horner - see Froome
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28 Sep 2015 04:27

Archibald wrote:along with some of the aforementioned GT winnings, etc... I'd throw in; LRP on Ax3, Thomas' little climbing show demolishing Quintana, et al in this year's TdF, and probably the last 5 years of Valverde's continuous clean riding improvements over his former doped period...

i agree thomas is a lil TOO suspicious :D
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Re: Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

28 Sep 2015 04:50

thehog wrote:Froome is the most ridiculous rider in the last 5 years if not 25 years. Of course when the data hack occurred we found his heart rate barely gets out of bed! So not normal ;)

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I know I'm not a pro athlete, but I'm not a lazy fat turd either.

dope or no dope, those power numbers are so much higher that what I can do on threshold.
I know its worlds apart, but me doing 115 watts on my trainer with heart rate at 175 for me is good.
just puts it into perspective for me.

my suspicious list
- Horner's Vuelta
- Froome's 2012 TDF podium
- Gilbert's run of wins
- M. Rogers 2014 grand tour victories
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Re: Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

28 Sep 2015 05:59

Most suspicious is Froome's 2011 Vuelta.


Some other other honourable mentions:

Landa 2015 Giro

W52 2015 Volta

Nibali 2014 Tour

Contador 2014

Hesjedal 2012 Giro
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28 Sep 2015 07:13

Agree with most of the above, but Europcar's 2011 Tour also deserves a mention imo
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28 Sep 2015 07:25

Gung Ho Gun wrote:Agree with most of the above, but Europcar's 2011 Tour also deserves a mention imo


No, the power of the yellow jersey was responsible for that. :D
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Re: Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

28 Sep 2015 07:44

Bronstein wrote:Most suspicious is Froome's 2011 Vuelta.


Some other other honourable mentions:

Landa 2015 Giro

W52 2015 Volta

Nibali 2014 Tour

Contador 2014

Didnt Watch The Volta But Always Said That Race Was A Doping Haven.

Hesjedal 2012 Giro
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