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20 May 2018 14:54

insane
EroicaStradeBianche
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20 May 2018 15:06

Does anybody have climbing times and VAM for Zoncolan ? Looks like Chaves hade the same rocket fuel from the start but something went wrong on the rest day.
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20 May 2018 15:07

This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.
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20 May 2018 15:08

Looking very Riccoesque
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20 May 2018 15:09

Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.


Dumoulin went from 6th in the Vuelta 2015, to winning Giro 2017 and beating Quintana at Oropa (and if he didnt stop to poo he´d have won with a bigger margin)
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20 May 2018 15:12

pastronef wrote:Dumoulin went from 6th in the Vuelta 2015, to winning Giro 2017 and beating Quintana at Oropa (and if he didnt stop to poo he´d have won with a bigger margin)

Ha, nice cherrypicking. Dumoulin went from almost winning the 2015 Vuelta, only losing it on the last significant climb, to winning a 2017 Giro where he was perfectly beatable and that he certainly didn't dominate. And even that raised more than a few eyebrows.
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Re: Re:

20 May 2018 15:12

pastronef wrote:
Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.


Dumoulin went from 5th in the Vuelta 2015, to winning Giro 2017 and beating Quintana at Oropa (and if he didnt stop to poo he´d have won with a bigger margin)

Surely no-one thinks Dumoulin - comfortably the world's best time triallist - is riding clean though either. :confused:
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20 May 2018 15:13

DFA123 wrote:
pastronef wrote:
Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.


Dumoulin went from 5th in the Vuelta 2015, to winning Giro 2017 and beating Quintana at Oropa (and if he didnt stop to poo he´d have won with a bigger margin)

Surely no-one thinks Dumoulin - comfortably the world's best time triallist - is riding clean though either. :confused:


is there anyone thinking Yates or Dumoulin are riding clean? why the question?
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20 May 2018 15:14

DFA123 wrote:
pastronef wrote:
Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.


Dumoulin went from 5th in the Vuelta 2015, to winning Giro 2017 and beating Quintana at Oropa (and if he didnt stop to poo he´d have won with a bigger margin)

Surely no-one thinks Dumoulin - comfortably the world's best time triallist - is riding clean though either. :confused:


Certainly not because of his tt abillities...
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Re: Re:

20 May 2018 15:14

DFA123 wrote:
pastronef wrote:
Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.


Dumoulin went from 5th in the Vuelta 2015, to winning Giro 2017 and beating Quintana at Oropa (and if he didnt stop to poo he´d have won with a bigger margin)

Surely no-one thinks Dumoulin - comfortably the world's best time triallist - is riding clean though either. :confused:

Nope, the 2015 Vuelta quickly solved that debate.
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Re:

20 May 2018 15:14

Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.

To be fair the competition is not strong on paper, like Pinot's best result is a 3rd on TdF and a bunch of DNFs. TD has a GT that was suited for him (long time trials), and then Pozzo/MAL....and a Froome that is starting to look like pre-sky Froome (maybe he is off the juice). That leaves Chavez who was showing great form in the 1st week but nowhere to be found .... so yeah ...
i still think that Yates is suspicious
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20 May 2018 15:18

Yates's expression today reminded me of LRP's when he was Froome's superdomestique, guiding Froome up the giant slopes in the TDF 2013, easing off to watch the mutant attack, then gliding past Quintana, smiling all the way.
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20 May 2018 15:18

gmedina wrote:
Alexandre B. wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous stuff.

The guy went from 6-10 in GC (far from overall victory) to crushing domination (with four stage win at the moment - I count Etna).

He has to be stopped.

To be fair the competition is not strong on paper, like Pinot's best result is a 3rd on TdF and a bunch of DNFs. TD has a GT that was suited for him (long time trials), and then Pozzo/MAL....and a Froome that is starting to look like pre-sky Froome (maybe he is off the juice). That leaves Chavez who was showing great form in the 1st week but nowhere to be found .... so yeah ...
i still think that Yates is suspicious

You can argue that the competition is not world class (despite the narrative between Froome and Dumoulin), Simon Yates is evolving at a ridiculous level, never seen from him.

He.
Has.
To.
Be.
Stopped.
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20 May 2018 15:18

It is not suspicious to me that Yates improved as a GC contender, but he must pay somewhere for all the efforts last week and this to collect time on Dumoulin.
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20 May 2018 15:20

They always pay, maybe 20 years from now after Simon is retired and won several Grand Tours.

Surely a leadership role in the Tour de France can't be too far off? Maybe 2019?
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20 May 2018 15:20

raising eyebrows type of performance by SImon Y. After that monumental grinding on the Zoncolan, trying to catch up Froome, you might think he should have been a bit tired, but he went 18k out and dropped everyone like he was "fresh"......

not normal....
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20 May 2018 15:22

What will the restday do to him though? Will MS fear he's looking too strong to be believable?
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20 May 2018 15:27

Stella0596 wrote:What will the restday do to him though? Will MS fear he's looking too strong to be believable?


Probably order Simon Yates to drop at least 30 seconds on the time trial to Dumoulin. Obviously he's not dumb enough to smash Dumoulin and Dennis by a minute and win the ITT by a mile.
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20 May 2018 15:33

DanielSong39 wrote:
Stella0596 wrote:What will the restday do to him though? Will MS fear he's looking too strong to be believable?


Probably order Simon Yates to drop at least 30 seconds on the time trial to Dumoulin. Obviously he's not dumb enough to smash Dumoulin and Dennis by a minute and win the ITT by a mile.


Yeah, casually beating the WC on a flat course would probably be too much madness :lol:
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20 May 2018 15:33

Stella0596 wrote:
DanielSong39 wrote:
Stella0596 wrote:What will the restday do to him though? Will MS fear he's looking too strong to be believable?


Probably order Simon Yates to drop at least 30 seconds on the time trial to Dumoulin. Obviously he's not dumb enough to smash Dumoulin and Dennis by a minute and win the ITT by a mile.


Yeah, casually beating the WC on a flat course would probably be too much madness :lol:

He didn't win on a flat course.
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