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Egan Bernal

26 Aug 2017 10:48

Well well well... this kid is tremendously talented BUT he belongs to a italian team so the doping culture must be very present. yesterday, he did 6.3 w/kg, this is a performance for worldtour riders, not for a 20 years old kid who turned pro two years ago
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26 Aug 2017 18:39

6.3w/kg for 17 mins is very different from even 6w/kg for 30 minutes
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26 Aug 2017 18:45

PremierAndrew wrote:6.3w/kg for 17 mins is very different from even 6w/kg for 30 minutes

Bernal did that last month in the Tour de Haute-Savoie
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26 Aug 2017 20:23

PremierAndrew wrote:6.3w/kg for 17 mins is very different from even 6w/kg for 30 minutes

We are talking about a kid with 20 years old :surprised:
Aru did 6.5 w/kg in PDBF (I know, very different climbs but still is a 15 min effort)
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02 Feb 2018 17:14

a pure climber winning time trials??? sky makes wonders...
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02 Feb 2018 17:32

portugal11 wrote:a pure climber winning time trials??? sky makes wonders...

It was Colombia. They were all pure climbers.
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02 Feb 2018 17:38

Parker wrote:
portugal11 wrote:a pure climber winning time trials??? sky makes wonders...

It was Colombia. They were all pure climbers.


zzing :)
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02 Feb 2018 17:42

Parker wrote:
portugal11 wrote:a pure climber winning time trials??? sky makes wonders...

It was Colombia. They were all pure climbers.



lol
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02 Feb 2018 18:05

Colombian champ?

Did Uran participate?
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02 Feb 2018 18:08

Red Rick wrote:Colombian champ?

Did Uran participate?

No. And neither did Gaviria or Pantano or Quintana. The rider who came second came 28th in the u23 Worlds TT. It wasn't a heavyweight field (although Lopez was unusually bad)
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03 Feb 2018 17:21

portugal11 wrote:a pure climber winning time trials??? sky makes wonders...


Lol. Here we go, poor kid was never going to stand a chance once he joined Sky was he, natural talent or not :rolleyes:
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03 Feb 2018 19:52

portugal11 wrote:a pure climber winning time trials??? sky makes wonders...


seriously dude??? just to throw it out there Pantano was last years TT champion...the TT field there is just not that good
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15 Feb 2018 17:12

For the love of God :mad:

Egan has shown incredible talent already at his very young age, as opposed to any SKY "engineered" riders suddenly transformed into super riders in no time.

Sadly, Egan is now linked to the SKY doping marginal gains bvllsh!t, which automatically places him in the Clinic territory, even if his natural talent prevails...... :mad:
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15 Feb 2018 19:34

hfer07 wrote:For the love of God :mad:

Egan has shown incredible talent already at his very young age, as opposed to any SKY "engineered" riders suddenly transformed into super riders in no time.

Sadly, Egan is now linked to the SKY doping marginal gains bvllsh!t, which automatically places him in the Clinic territory, even if his natural talent prevails...... :mad:


I get what you're saying....if only he'd gone to one of the other clean teams...

But seriously dude, there's no need to be sad or angry. You have a choice. You could just put your feet up and enjoy the show, enjoy seeing how the kid develops. Hope he fulfils his huge potential.

That's what I plan to do anyways

It's a personal choice wether or not to let the clinic influence and prejudice how you want to think about things...
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16 Feb 2018 11:06

hfer07 wrote:For the love of God :mad:

Egan has shown incredible talent already at his very young age, as opposed to any SKY "engineered" riders suddenly transformed into super riders in no time.

Sadly, Egan is now linked to the SKY doping marginal gains bvllsh!t, which automatically places him in the Clinic territory, even if his natural talent prevails...... :mad:


Yeah, poor Egan, it's truly sad that when he begins to win GT's and earn millions he can't be happy and enjoy his achievements 'cause Clinicists think he's dirty and don't respect him.
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16 Feb 2018 13:19

miguelindurain111 wrote:
hfer07 wrote:For the love of God :mad:

Egan has shown incredible talent already at his very young age, as opposed to any SKY "engineered" riders suddenly transformed into super riders in no time.

Sadly, Egan is now linked to the SKY doping marginal gains bvllsh!t, which automatically places him in the Clinic territory, even if his natural talent prevails...... :mad:


Yeah, poor Egan, it's truly sad that when he begins to win GT's and earn millions he can't be happy and enjoy his achievements 'cause Clinicists think he's dirty and don't respect him.

Really?? Who said anything like that? The post you are quoting says nothing of the sort.
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16 Feb 2018 17:09

veganrob wrote:
miguelindurain111 wrote:
hfer07 wrote:For the love of God :mad:

Egan has shown incredible talent already at his very young age, as opposed to any SKY "engineered" riders suddenly transformed into super riders in no time.

Sadly, Egan is now linked to the SKY doping marginal gains bvllsh!t, which automatically places him in the Clinic territory, even if his natural talent prevails...... :mad:


Yeah, poor Egan, it's truly sad that when he begins to win GT's and earn millions he can't be happy and enjoy his achievements 'cause Clinicists think he's dirty and don't respect him.

Really?? Who said anything like that? The post you are quoting says nothing of the sort.

Well, in other words, Egan doesn't give a sh1t if he's "automatically placed in the Clinic territory".
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