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15 Sep 2017 12:44

thehog wrote:
heart_attack_man wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:McQuaid has called Cookson "a fraud", and has publicly backed Lappartient.

You know cycling's future is still **** if Cookson gets re-elected or Lappartient who has McQuaids backing!!!


Even if Lappartient is elected (which I highly doubt...), countdown to a ****** national team in 3...2...1... It's what the cool kids do.


Unknown Frenchman who used to zig zag up hills to become the next ITT hero and climber? Who will it be :eek:


Pierre-Luc Perichon.

https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/886608956302479360
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Re: Re:

15 Sep 2017 15:38

ruamruam wrote:
thehog wrote:
heart_attack_man wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:McQuaid has called Cookson "a fraud", and has publicly backed Lappartient.

You know cycling's future is still **** if Cookson gets re-elected or Lappartient who has McQuaids backing!!!


Even if Lappartient is elected (which I highly doubt...), countdown to a ****** national team in 3...2...1... It's what the cool kids do.


Unknown Frenchman who used to zig zag up hills to become the next ITT hero and climber? Who will it be :eek:


He will have grown up in Algeria, Morocco, Mali or one of the former French colonies to French parents.


Add in 'will be asthmatic & have intermittent thyroid issues, & an undiagnosed chronic illness' & you've got your next French GT winner
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15 Sep 2017 16:01

keeponrollin wrote:
ruamruam wrote:
thehog wrote:
heart_attack_man wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:McQuaid has called Cookson "a fraud", and has publicly backed Lappartient.

You know cycling's future is still **** if Cookson gets re-elected or Lappartient who has McQuaids backing!!!


Even if Lappartient is elected (which I highly doubt...), countdown to a ****** national team in 3...2...1... It's what the cool kids do.


Unknown Frenchman who used to zig zag up hills to become the next ITT hero and climber? Who will it be :eek:


He will have grown up in Algeria, Morocco, Mali or one of the former French colonies to French parents.


Add in 'will be asthmatic & have intermittent thyroid issues, & an undiagnosed chronic illness' & you've got your next French GT winner


i wonder would David Walsh be interested in writing a book about him?
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15 Sep 2017 16:59

Bronstein wrote:
thehog wrote:
heart_attack_man wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:McQuaid has called Cookson "a fraud", and has publicly backed Lappartient.

You know cycling's future is still **** if Cookson gets re-elected or Lappartient who has McQuaids backing!!!


Even if Lappartient is elected (which I highly doubt...), countdown to a ****** national team in 3...2...1... It's what the cool kids do.


Unknown Frenchman who used to zig zag up hills to become the next ITT hero and climber? Who will it be :eek:


Pierre-Luc Perichon.

https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/886608956302479360


I think we have a winner! Soon to be 4-times Tour de France winner!
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Re: The Cookson legacy

15 Sep 2017 17:02

And one final selfie from Brian to add to the 456,234 other ones... look forward to four more years of selfies :lol:

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16 Sep 2017 10:57

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Craigee wrote:One would think that Oceania would look seriously at a change. Look at the way the Australians and to a less extent the Kiwis beat the Brits for three years then get thumped by them at every Olympics. Both countries have to be suspicious of Cookson playing his part in this such as the lack of serious checking for motors.

People here may say it's only track I speak of but Australia and NZ live by track cycling. Track brings all of their funding from their govts and both have had pay cuts after the Rio Olympics.


Yeah - The funding cuts Jones has passed onto the road and women's part of the program, and possibly MTB and BMX - Track is fairly much untouched.


Peter King did something similar with BC, focus the funding where the most medals are. The road only came into it when the academy started and Cav turned out to be the best sprinter of all time, Sky came on board after Beijing and the rest is history.
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16 Sep 2017 14:19

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yaco wrote:
Craigee wrote:One would think that Oceania would look seriously at a change. Look at the way the Australians and to a less extent the Kiwis beat the Brits for three years then get thumped by them at every Olympics. Both countries have to be suspicious of Cookson playing his part in this such as the lack of serious checking for motors.

People here may say it's only track I speak of but Australia and NZ live by track cycling. Track brings all of their funding from their govts and both have had pay cuts after the Rio Olympics.


Yeah - The funding cuts Jones has passed onto the road and women's part of the program, and possibly MTB and BMX - Track is fairly much untouched.


Peter King did something similar with BC, focus the funding where the most medals are. The road only came into it when the academy started and Cav turned out to be the best sprinter of all time, Sky came on board after Beijing and the rest is history.


NZ cycling was cut $500,000 per year after Rio. They haven't divulged where they would spend less but then again it's normal for NZ cycling to not divulge their spending.

Still had GB not dominated like they did in Rio the two main Oceania countries could've had funding increases or stay the same.
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16 Sep 2017 14:22

What is the reasoning for that selfie? Wow
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16 Sep 2017 14:30

Craigee wrote:What is the reasoning for that selfie? Wow


Does here need to be a reason for for Cookie? :confused:
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16 Sep 2017 14:39

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Craigee wrote:What is the reasoning for that selfie? Wow


Does here need to be a reason for for Cookie? :confused:


Cookie is clearly cocky. I remember being told by riders during the tracks worlds in Paris two years ago that they lost out on track warm up time on one of the days so that Cookson could ride the track all by himself. They said he loved the attention.
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16 Sep 2017 15:41

Craigee wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
yaco wrote:
Craigee wrote:One would think that Oceania would look seriously at a change. Look at the way the Australians and to a less extent the Kiwis beat the Brits for three years then get thumped by them at every Olympics. Both countries have to be suspicious of Cookson playing his part in this such as the lack of serious checking for motors.

People here may say it's only track I speak of but Australia and NZ live by track cycling. Track brings all of their funding from their govts and both have had pay cuts after the Rio Olympics.


Yeah - The funding cuts Jones has passed onto the road and women's part of the program, and possibly MTB and BMX - Track is fairly much untouched.


Peter King did something similar with BC, focus the funding where the most medals are. The road only came into it when the academy started and Cav turned out to be the best sprinter of all time, Sky came on board after Beijing and the rest is history.


NZ cycling was cut $500,000 per year after Rio. They haven't divulged where they would spend less but then again it's normal for NZ cycling to not divulge their spending.

Still had GB not dominated like they did in Rio the two main Oceania countries could've had funding increases or stay the same.


The bigger picture is Cycling Australia should govern for all kinds of cyclists from professional to amateur and recreational cyclists - The new head honcho Jones wants to devote more resources to track cycling which means less resources to the other disciplines - You only had to look back to the RR at the 2016 Olympic Games, when CA filled the last spot with a MTB who doubled up and rode all of 20kms, so they could have an extra rider for the track - CA has cut their small for funding for the Orica women's team and the Mitchelton Scott men's CT squad, forcing Gerry Ryan to cover the funding shortfall - And the women's development squad which races for periods in Europe may lose their funding for 2018 - Under Jones' watch track is number one, two and three.
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16 Sep 2017 15:51

Craigee wrote:What is the reasoning for that selfie? Wow


The fact that he's at the IOC meeting in Lima, Peru. David Lappartient has gone out and said the UCI should have more clout within the IOC and it's Cookson's fault they don't.


https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1055411/cookson-confident-has-two-thirds-of-uci-voters-in-election-for-president-as-accuses-rival-over-mcquaid

"There are 45 voting delegates and I think I have got 30 on my side," Cookson said.
We will see!
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Re: The Cookson legacy

16 Sep 2017 15:59

Cookson caught lying again.... :cool:

Lappartient, also at the IOC Session as part of the Paris 2024 delegation, claimed the emails from McQuaid were a personal act on his part.

"From information I gathered, it has been reported that Mr McQuaid has sent an email to a couple of delegates, whom he knows, by telling them his personal opinion about Brian Cookson and therefore calling on them to support my candidature,” he told the BBC.

"This was a personal act of McQuaid and not on my demand.

"By saying ‘only they know if…’ seems to me, once again, Brian Cookson is certain of nothing.

"Making false comments like these is unsportsmanlike behaviour.

"To set the records straight, during the Elite European Road Championships in France last year Brian Cookson is referring to, McQuaid called and asked if he could stop by since he was nearby.

"I immediately informed Brian Cookson, then McQuaid was of course given access to see the race as he asked to."

According to CyclingTips, McQuaid has claimed suggestions of such a deal was "absolute rubbish" but admitted he had sent an email to UCI voting delegates in support of Lappartient.
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16 Sep 2017 16:28

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cookson-remains-confident-of-winning-uci-presidential-election/#disqus_thread
In 2013 when Cookson defeated Pat McQuaid after a continuous election campaign, he had the backing of all the European delegates, who were mandated to vote for him. This time the European Cycling Union member Federations will only finalise their vote at special meeting in Bergen before Thursday election. It seems they are divided on their preferred candidate. Lappartient is the president of the UEC.


So this is why Cookson is confident of winning the vote. Sounds like 30 delegates have made promises of their vote. What Cookson has promised though in return ...and what good the promises are, we will see on 21st.

Edit - Cookson's accusations about McQuaid, seem to be a response/distraction to Lappartient going out two days earlier about banning corticosteroids and tramadol in line with MPCC's suggestions.
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Re: Re:

17 Sep 2017 14:22

yaco wrote:
Craigee wrote:
MatParker117 wrote:
yaco wrote:
Craigee wrote:One would think that Oceania would look seriously at a change. Look at the way the Australians and to a less extent the Kiwis beat the Brits for three years then get thumped by them at every Olympics. Both countries have to be suspicious of Cookson playing his part in this such as the lack of serious checking for motors.

People here may say it's only track I speak of but Australia and NZ live by track cycling. Track brings all of their funding from their govts and both have had pay cuts after the Rio Olympics.


Yeah - The funding cuts Jones has passed onto the road and women's part of the program, and possibly MTB and BMX - Track is fairly much untouched.


Peter King did something similar with BC, focus the funding where the most medals are. The road only came into it when the academy started and Cav turned out to be the best sprinter of all time, Sky came on board after Beijing and the rest is history.


NZ cycling was cut $500,000 per year after Rio. They haven't divulged where they would spend less but then again it's normal for NZ cycling to not divulge their spending.

Still had GB not dominated like they did in Rio the two main Oceania countries could've had funding increases or stay the same.


The bigger picture is Cycling Australia should govern for all kinds of cyclists from professional to amateur and recreational cyclists - The new head honcho Jones wants to devote more resources to track cycling which means less resources to the other disciplines - You only had to look back to the RR at the 2016 Olympic Games, when CA filled the last spot with a MTB who doubled up and rode all of 20kms, so they could have an extra rider for the track - CA has cut their small for funding for the Orica women's team and the Mitchelton Scott men's CT squad, forcing Gerry Ryan to cover the funding shortfall - And the women's development squad which races for periods in Europe may lose their funding for 2018 - Under Jones' watch track is number one, two and three.


NZ put a track sprinter in the road race for a few kms which is even more of a farce to get an extra track rider in.
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17 Sep 2017 14:23

Robert5091 wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cookson-remains-confident-of-winning-uci-presidential-election/#disqus_thread
In 2013 when Cookson defeated Pat McQuaid after a continuous election campaign, he had the backing of all the European delegates, who were mandated to vote for him. This time the European Cycling Union member Federations will only finalise their vote at special meeting in Bergen before Thursday election. It seems they are divided on their preferred candidate. Lappartient is the president of the UEC.


So this is why Cookson is confident of winning the vote. Sounds like 30 delegates have made promises of their vote. What Cookson has promised though in return ...and what good the promises are, we will see on 21st.

Edit - Cookson's accusations about McQuaid, seem to be a response/distraction to Lappartient going out two days earlier about banning corticosteroids and tramadol in line with MPCC's suggestions.


Thanks Robert
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17 Sep 2017 20:03

Cookson says again WADA needed to be onboard ...

https://www.briancookson.org/news/2017/9/17/cookson-has-created-a-new-anti-doping-environment-for-cycling-says-former-wada-director-general-david-howman (In English & French!)
Cookson added: “David (Lappartient) should be well aware, first of all, that cortico-steroids are already banned in competition, and that the UCI and CADF are already working closely with WADA on issues of detection, etc.

“He also knows full well that we have made the case to WADA to add tramadol to the banned list and this is an ongoing process. Any attempt to add substances to the banned list without WADA agreement would be challenged by the first person to be charged, and would fall at the first hurdle.

“I said in my letter to MPCC President Roger Legeay in response to the same questions six weeks ago that we all want the same things but it is essential to work with WADA on these important matters.


Is BC talking from experience or legal advice?

Edit - update - http://www.theouterline.com/uci-election-time-to-cast-the-votes/
The UCI’s Therapeutic Use Exemption regulations now exceed the WADA-mandated standard requirements.
Seems to contradict what BC says.
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Re: The Cookson legacy

18 Sep 2017 19:42

Bri will say or do anything for a vote :rolleyes:

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18 Sep 2017 21:27

It would be news if BC did not try to get dirt on his opponent. Just ask Trump jr ! (Wonder what the Murdochs have been up to ... )
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19 Sep 2017 22:14

Vote for the new UCI Management Committee to happen too in Bergen -

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1052311/uci-reveals-list-of-candidates-for-management-committee
The election of the new Management Committee is due to happen during the UCI Congress in Bergen in Norway, scheduled to take take place on September 21.

It will be composed of the UCI President, a position for which incumbent Brian Cookson and France’s David Lappartient are competing, as well as 11 members elected by the Congress and the Presidents of the five continental confederations.

Among the current continental heads are the African Cycling Confederation’s (CAC) Mohamed Wagih Azzam of Egypt, the Pan-American Cycling Confederation’s (COPACI) José Manuel Pelaez of Cuba, and the Asian Cycling Confederation’s (ACC) Osama Ahmed Abdullah Al Shafar of the United Arab Emirates.

Completing the list are the European Cycling Union’s (UEC) Lappartient and the Oceania Cycling Confederation’s (OCC) Tracey Gaudry of Australia.

The 11 other members shall be elected by the Congress with seven members coming from UEC National Federations and one each from CAC, ACC, COPACI and OCC.

Contenders for the UEC spots are Belgium’s Tom Van Damme, Czech Republic’s Marian Stetina, Estonia’s Madis Lepajoe, Germany’s Toni Kirsch, Italy’s Renato Di Rocco, Norway’s Harald Tiedemann Hansen, Portugal’s Artur Manuel Moreira Lopes, Russia’s Igor Makarov, Spain’s José Luis Lopez Cerron and Turkey’s Erol Kucukbakirci.

St Vincent and the Grenadines’ Trevor Bailey, Venezuela’s Artemio Leonett, Colombia’s Jorge Ovidio Gonzalez, and the United States' Bob Stapleton are all in the running for the one COPACI spot.

The trio vying for the sole ACC place are Baharain’s Sh. Khaled Hamad Al Khalifa, Malaysia’s Amarjit Singh Gill Darshan Singh and Indonesia’s Raja Sapta Oktohari.

There are two candidates for both the CAC and OCC spots with Morocco’s Mohammed Belmahi and Seychelles’ Lucas Georges going head-to-head in the former and Australia’s Leeanne Grantham and New Zealand’s Tony Mitchell battling it out in the latter.

A maximum of two co-opted members can also feature on the UCI Management Committee.


More on the Management Committee
http://www.uci.ch/inside-uci/organisation/management-committee-161115/
The UCI Management Committee is the executive body that manages the Federation, acting under the authority of Congress. It meets at least twice a year , headed by the UCI President. Its tasks include executing the decisions of Congress, establishing regulations, awarding the organisation of World Championships and setting up commissions to help it carry out its mission. It also appoints the UCI’s Director General (a position currently occupied by Mr. Martin Gibbs).


With the disaffection with Martin Gibbs, if Cookson loses, then Gibbs will probably also lose his job.
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