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Linas Rumsas

15 Sep 2017 09:36

Raimondas' son died in in May aged 21 suddenly "after falling ill". He was racing for a relatively low-key Italian amateur squad, Altopack.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/linas-rumsas-dies-aged-21/

Italian authorities are now investigating Raimondas' role - he may have provided doping material to his son. There are also charges against Altopack's president and other persons. Several "forbidden substances" have been found already.

http://www.eurosport.de/radsport/ermittlungen-gegen-ex-radprofi-rumsas-wegen-tod-des-sohnes_sto6334312/story.shtml
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15 Sep 2017 12:30

What an idiot. Not only did he dope during his entire career and involved his wife. Now they killed their own son with doping.
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15 Sep 2017 12:41

A very sad story. The least he could do is steered his son away from these things.

The worst part is that he probably thought that he didn't need any professional on his tasks.
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Re: Linas Rumsas

15 Sep 2017 12:47

There is a English language CN-item also available:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rumsas-under-investigation-into-sons-death/

Words such as "apparently" and "are said to have alleged" should be red flags before jumping into any conclusions about direct link between PED-use and the tragedy. "His son is said to have died following the use of forbidden doping substances, officials are said to have alleged". What a strangely structured sentence.
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15 Sep 2017 12:51

Tragic story - guess they'll be more details in the future.
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15 Sep 2017 13:01

How many former riders and dopers let their offspring enter the sport knowing that doping is rife?

Merckx, Roche, Phinney, Neil Martin, Moser etc etc

But they attack Rumsas.

It was a hospital error that led to Linus's death as the ignored the cardiogram reading think it was an error!

Small team had a doping program, but yet people think big teams don't, yet multiple doctors.
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15 Sep 2017 13:10

Was there was an investigation/autopsy conducted after Charlie Craig died in his sleep.
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15 Sep 2017 13:17

I hope it isn't the case, coz otherwise this already incredibly sad story just becomes even sadder.
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15 Sep 2017 13:24

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:What an idiot. Not only did he dope during his entire career and involved his wife. Now they killed their own son with doping.


They killed their own son? Very very harsh.

Then every one who ever enabled doping has blood on their hands.
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15 Sep 2017 13:54

Then every one who ever enabled doping has blood on their hands.


To be honest, to a very small degree, I personally think they probably do, and for a number of other deaths as well.
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15 Sep 2017 15:09

Benotti69 wrote:How many former riders and dopers let their offspring enter the sport knowing that doping is rife?
Given the argument that everyone dopes, all the time, since the year dot, I'm thinking the answer to that questions is...actually quite meaningless.
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03 Oct 2017 10:50

Raimondas Rumsas Jr. tested positive for GHRP-6, the whole thing is messed up.
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/2017/10/03/105575/raimondas-rumsas-positivo-ormone-della-crescita-doping-tuttobiciweb
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03 Oct 2017 12:16

I see the name Locatelli shows up. Oh, well..
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03 Oct 2017 12:37

This is beyond incredible. What a **** family.
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03 Oct 2017 13:07

I'm just speechless. Especially considering that I read reports that it was Raimondas Jr. who found Linas. The only - very weak - reason I can think of is that the family is convinced that Linas death wasn't in anyway doping-related, so none of them think there are any risks. Which, of course, still doesn't excuse doping.
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03 Oct 2017 13:09

Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:This is beyond incredible. What a **** family.


No different than lots of cycling families. The Merkcx's, Mosers', Wiggins, etc etc.....
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03 Oct 2017 13:12

To be fair, none of those families have had someone continue/start doping after a family member died from a (suspected) doping-related issue.
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03 Oct 2017 13:14

Benotti69 wrote:
Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:This is beyond incredible. What a **** family.


No different than lots of cycling families. The Merkcx's, Mosers', Wiggins, etc etc.....

When the same people keep tripping up the wire, they're either egregiously unlucky, or they're overdoing it. The latter sounds way more plausible.
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03 Oct 2017 13:28

hrotha wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:This is beyond incredible. What a **** family.


No different than lots of cycling families. The Merkcx's, Mosers', Wiggins, etc etc.....

When the same people keep tripping up the wire, they're either egregiously unlucky, or they're overdoing it. The latter sounds way more plausible.


Rumsas wife tripped the wire, becuase of border controls. Not UCI or an ADA. After Rumsas decided to play hardball he was always going to be a target by UCI and ADAs.

But again i dont see any difference between most cycling families that allow their children to compete knowing what they as parents know.

Kimmage would not let his children race on bikes. He encouraged them to join the GAA.
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03 Oct 2017 16:06

Benotti69 wrote:
hrotha wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:This is beyond incredible. What a **** family.


No different than lots of cycling families. The Merkcx's, Mosers', Wiggins, etc etc.....

When the same people keep tripping up the wire, they're either egregiously unlucky, or they're overdoing it. The latter sounds way more plausible.


Rumsas wife tripped the wire, becuase of border controls. Not UCI or an ADA. After Rumsas decided to play hardball he was always going to be a target by UCI and ADAs.

But again i dont see any difference between most cycling families that allow their children to compete knowing what they as parents know.

Kimmage would not let his children race on bikes. He encouraged them to join the GAA.


And you think the GAA is a paragon of virtue - Think there is no doping in the GAA ? - GAA is one of the worst sporting organisations in the world who make obscene profits from making their players amateur - And Kimmage sold his soul when he was interned within a cycling team in the 00's.
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