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14 Dec 2018 11:47

Accepting the reclusive doctor's written evidence is a boost, but not much of one:
Judge Ross admitted the evidence after stating employment tribunals were "less formal" than courts but added she would give it "very little weight" in her deliberations.
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16 Jan 2019 19:00

Varnish loses.

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In a short statement, her management team said: "Judgement was received at 1700 today and it has been found that Jess Varnish was neither an employee or a worker of either British Cycling or UK Sport."

The statement concluded by saying the 28-year-old, who is due to give birth to her first child this week, and her legal team will digest the 43-page judgement before issuing further comment.
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26 Jan 2019 00:12

fmk_RoI wrote:Varnish loses.

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In a short statement, her management team said: "Judgement was received at 1700 today and it has been found that Jess Varnish was neither an employee or a worker of either British Cycling or UK Sport."

The statement concluded by saying the 28-year-old, who is due to give birth to her first child this week, and her legal team will digest the 43-page judgement before issuing further comment.


Just big wigs looking out for fellow big wigs. How it is even possible in 2019 for taxes being used to be paid to an athlete as their income without them having any employment protection or any rights at all is corruption. Nothing else. So the sackings of all the coaches was just in reply to the perception BC was coming across with. They never had to sack anyone because the athletes have no rights? Maybe they should sue BC for unfair dismissals. Democracy huh. What a joke.
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28 Jan 2019 09:15

Craigee wrote:
fmk_RoI wrote:Varnish loses.

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In a short statement, her management team said: "Judgement was received at 1700 today and it has been found that Jess Varnish was neither an employee or a worker of either British Cycling or UK Sport."

The statement concluded by saying the 28-year-old, who is due to give birth to her first child this week, and her legal team will digest the 43-page judgement before issuing further comment.


Just big wigs looking out for fellow big wigs. How it is even possible in 2019 for taxes being used to be paid to an athlete as their income without them having any employment protection or any rights at all is corruption. Nothing else. So the sackings of all the coaches was just in reply to the perception BC was coming across with. They never had to sack anyone because the athletes have no rights? Maybe they should sue BC for unfair dismissals. Democracy huh. What a joke.


What are you talking about? I fundamentally disagree with you. *Edited by King Boonen*

If you are fortunate to be top level at a sport then if governing bodies want the best results it is reasonable that you should get given a grant of money to enable you to maximise your training by not having to work. That's it. You're not employed. They don't owe you anything. You turn up, perform, the best people get picked for the squad and given a grant, the even better people get picked for the team on the day. If you are no longer good enough to be picked you don't get to be in the squad and you don't get a grant to enable you to train without working.

Otherwise we just revert back to amateur status, where you have a job and try and train around that.

But that it, two options. And even in football which is more like a business, you can't sue if a team drops you for being no good anymore.
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18 Feb 2019 14:24

tuckandgo wrote:
Craigee wrote:
fmk_RoI wrote:Varnish loses.

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In a short statement, her management team said: "Judgement was received at 1700 today and it has been found that Jess Varnish was neither an employee or a worker of either British Cycling or UK Sport."

The statement concluded by saying the 28-year-old, who is due to give birth to her first child this week, and her legal team will digest the 43-page judgement before issuing further comment.


Just big wigs looking out for fellow big wigs. How it is even possible in 2019 for taxes being used to be paid to an athlete as their income without them having any employment protection or any rights at all is corruption. Nothing else. So the sackings of all the coaches was just in reply to the perception BC was coming across with. They never had to sack anyone because the athletes have no rights? Maybe they should sue BC for unfair dismissals. Democracy huh. What a joke.


What are you talking about? I fundamentally disagree with you. *Edited by King Boonen*

If you are fortunate to be top level at a sport then if governing bodies want the best results it is reasonable that you should get given a grant of money to enable you to maximise your training by not having to work. That's it. You're not employed. They don't owe you anything. You turn up, perform, the best people get picked for the squad and given a grant, the even better people get picked for the team on the day. If you are no longer good enough to be picked you don't get to be in the squad and you don't get a grant to enable you to train without working.

Otherwise we just revert back to amateur status, where you have a job and try and train around that.

But that it, two options. And even in football which is more like a business, you can't sue if a team drops you for being no good anymore.


Disagree. All other public servants paid by the tax payer has an employment contract with rights. It's archaic that a paid individual has no employee rights in 2019. I can't believe that they think the original system they went with is still the best one? Everything else evolves and changes, everything but not the way an athlete is treated and funded? Stupid.

In football many players get dropped all the time by clubs but get picked up by another club. They could go from Liverpool to Man United down the road. You can't do that in track cycling can you? You can't just go and ride for another country. You have to have citizenship. Different altogether.
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18 Feb 2019 18:01

Craigee wrote:
tuckandgo wrote:
Craigee wrote:
fmk_RoI wrote:Varnish loses.

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In a short statement, her management team said: "Judgement was received at 1700 today and it has been found that Jess Varnish was neither an employee or a worker of either British Cycling or UK Sport."

The statement concluded by saying the 28-year-old, who is due to give birth to her first child this week, and her legal team will digest the 43-page judgement before issuing further comment.


Just big wigs looking out for fellow big wigs. How it is even possible in 2019 for taxes being used to be paid to an athlete as their income without them having any employment protection or any rights at all is corruption. Nothing else. So the sackings of all the coaches was just in reply to the perception BC was coming across with. They never had to sack anyone because the athletes have no rights? Maybe they should sue BC for unfair dismissals. Democracy huh. What a joke.


What are you talking about? I fundamentally disagree with you. *Edited by King Boonen*

If you are fortunate to be top level at a sport then if governing bodies want the best results it is reasonable that you should get given a grant of money to enable you to maximise your training by not having to work. That's it. You're not employed. They don't owe you anything. You turn up, perform, the best people get picked for the squad and given a grant, the even better people get picked for the team on the day. If you are no longer good enough to be picked you don't get to be in the squad and you don't get a grant to enable you to train without working.

Otherwise we just revert back to amateur status, where you have a job and try and train around that.

But that it, two options. And even in football which is more like a business, you can't sue if a team drops you for being no good anymore.


Disagree. All other public servants paid by the tax payer has an employment contract with rights. It's archaic that a paid individual has no employee rights in 2019. I can't believe that they think the original system they went with is still the best one? Everything else evolves and changes, everything but not the way an athlete is treated and funded? Stupid.

In football many players get dropped all the time by clubs but get picked up by another club. They could go from Liverpool to Man United down the road. You can't do that in track cycling can you? You can't just go and ride for another country. You have to have citizenship. Different altogether.


Australian track rider Shane Perkins has switched from Australia to Russia for the 2020 Olympics.
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Re: Varnish finally sues BC/UK Sport

24 Mar 2019 04:26

She has now appealed to a higher court which will provide her more scope for evidentiary discovery.
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Re: Varnish finally sues BC/UK Sport

24 Mar 2019 09:47

I can't see the appeals Judge agreeing a case is here now, but we'll see.
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