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WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 04:02

http://www.cyclenews.com/2018/05/article/red-bull-ktm-releases-broc-tickle/

"Today, it was announced that his “B sample” also tested positive for a banned substance known as “5-methylhexan-2-amine” (or “methylhexanamine”), which is found in many over-the-counter supplements and is perfectly legal in the United States, along with most of the rest of the world."

Four years for legal stuff we can all buy at the grocery store.

EDIT: As others have typed, the cyclenews article might be misleading. After a little reading, I think that it is more dangerous than any potential benefits.

Similar to below: "In April 2013, the US Food and Drug Administration determined that methylhexanamine was potentially dangerous and did not qualify as a legal dietary supplement; it warned supplement makers that it was illegal to market methylhexanamine and warned consumers of potentially serious health risks associated with methylhexanamine-containing products. The FDA has issued warning letters to manufacturers and distributors who continued to market products containing methylhexanamine."

Based on other sanctions, four years still seems pretty harsh though. Maybe he can 'negotiate' it down to two years?
Last edited by jmdirt on 17 May 2018 02:12, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 18:07

Tickle’s team, RedBull KTM, sacked him and there is talk of the team recovering the compensation that’s been paid to Tickle. Interestingly, the designated RedBull KTM team trainer, Aldon Baker, has a pro cycling background. MX and SX racers from his camp generally win the US championships each year.

In this sport, 4 years is a career ending penalty from the FIM. Heavy handed for an OTC product?
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Re: WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 18:43

jmdirt wrote:"Today, it was announced that his “B sample” also tested positive for a banned substance known as “5-methylhexan-2-amine” (or “methylhexanamine”), which is found in many over-the-counter supplements and is perfectly legal in the United States, along with most of the rest of the world." Four years for legal stuff we can all buy at the grocery store.
Maybe legal if the grocery store is not in the USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Brazil, Sweden, or other countries where it's illegal?

What the article said about the methylhexanamine being "perfectly legal" in the United States doesn't seem right because the FDA claims otherwise
https://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/ProductsIngredients/ucm346576.htm
"Dietary supplements containing DMAA are illegal and FDA is doing everything within its authority to remove these products from the market" (as of 2013, so it's been banned for more than 5 years in the USA)

Maybe it's legal to possess but illegal to use or to sell as a product ?

http://blog.abhpharma.com/court-denies-motion-to-reconsider-dmaa-legalization

In this sport, 4 years is a career ending penalty from the FIM. Heavy handed for an OTC product?

That's the big question, why did he get four years, because most of the previous doping cases involving this drug were bans in the 1 to 2 years range? Wikipedia says Usain Bolt lost one of his Olympic track medals because his teammate was caught using the methylhexanamine, so there have been some fairly severe penalties. But usually not anywhere near 4 year ban
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16 May 2018 18:59

Methylhexanamine is clearly banned so it isn't surprising that he was too, but 4 years seem harsh yes.
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Re: WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 19:10

I believe the sport’s sanctioning federation, FIM, sets the penalty. But I may be wrong. Neither Supercross nor Motocross have a racer’s union. For such dangerous sports with short competitor careers maybe one would be beneficial to the racers. Either way it’s up to them to monitor everything that goes into their system.

In the last couple of years one of the sport’s superstars and a privateer racer were popped for doctor prescribed ADD meds. They did not know how to properly file for and/or confirm TUE approvals available for their meds. I don’t think anyone wants an easily distracted racer hucking a 275lb rocket three stories in the air often inches away from other racers on the track.
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Re: WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 19:19

Nighttrain99 wrote:I believe the sport’s sanctioning federation, FIM, sets the penalty. But I may be wrong. Neither Supercross nor Motocross have a racer’s union. For such dangerous sports short competitor careers maybe one would be beneficial to the racers. Either way it’s up to them to monitor everything that goes into their system.

In the last couple of years one of the sport’s superstars and a privateer racer were popped for doctor prescribed ADD meds. They did not know how to properly file for and/or confirm TUE approvals available for their meds. I don’t think anyone wants an easily distracted racer hucking a 275lb rocket three stories in the air often inches away from other racers on the track.

I agree if the racer actually needs the ADD medication, but on the other hand if they are prescribed for their PED effects on someone who doesn't suffer from ADD they can actually increase aggressiveness and that won't be good either.
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Re: WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 19:31

So true, Colonel. I participated in motocross racing years ago as an amateur, still follow it closely, and ride off-road with my sons. The debate surrounding the likely over-prescription of ADD meds in this country touches many places including the sporting fields.

US militaries no longer accept recruits who’ve been prescribed ADD meds in the last two years. That’s going to shorten the lines at the Recruiter’s offices. The use of these meds is widespread in high schools and colleges.
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Re: WADA Hammers SX Racer

16 May 2018 19:51

ColonelKidneyBeans wrote:I agree if the racer actually needs the ADD medication, but on the other hand if they are prescribed for their PED effects on someone who doesn't suffer from ADD they can actually increase aggressiveness and that won't be good either.

Too many amphetamines, or maybe 'roid raging' ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfm102ORjmQ

Or maybe just bad blood between those particular SX competitors...
Come on, guys, there has got to be a better way
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