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30 Jul 2018 15:29

Agreed, she is a very unfortunate looking woman. Almost a Jim Henson muppet.

ETA: If we're talking about druggie cycling chicks, Elisa Basso is an even better choice ;)

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03 Aug 2018 02:27

franic wrote:My top 10:

10-Pantani: incredible talent but incredibly juiced
9-Ullrich: just a little bit less of a talent, the same juice as above
8-Contador: a grimpeur who beat Cancellara in a TT. The king of CERA's years
7-Vino: Ivan Drago
6-Basso: Riis' perfect disciple. Even Simoni called him an alien.
5-Rominger Ferrari's Frankenstein:
4-Riis: Mr. 60%
3-Indurain: 188cm, 80kg and still always there in the mountains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANGbb1Yz8Hw
2-Armstrong: I don't think he doped much more than the others but his attitude, the fact that he deceived thousands of sick people and what he did to Simeoni put him right in spot nr.2
1-Froome: the weakest rider who has ever managed to win a GT. A donkey turned into a horse. Never seen anything like this even during the golden era of EPO


Awesome!

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5-Rominger Ferrari's Frankenstein!

Absolutely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYeaI8SZ7SU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KBsm58YZ2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfplDTiIfFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYajBK8jiTU
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03 Aug 2018 19:26

TubularBills wrote:
franic wrote:My top 10:

10-Pantani: incredible talent but incredibly juiced
9-Ullrich: just a little bit less of a talent, the same juice as above
8-Contador: a grimpeur who beat Cancellara in a TT. The king of CERA's years
7-Vino: Ivan Drago
6-Basso: Riis' perfect disciple. Even Simoni called him an alien.
5-Rominger Ferrari's Frankenstein:
4-Riis: Mr. 60%
3-Indurain: 188cm, 80kg and still always there in the mountains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANGbb1Yz8Hw
2-Armstrong: I don't think he doped much more than the others but his attitude, the fact that he deceived thousands of sick people and what he did to Simeoni put him right in spot nr.2
1-Froome: the weakest rider who has ever managed to win a GT. A donkey turned into a horse. Never seen anything like this even during the golden era of EPO


Awesome!

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5-Rominger Ferrari's Frankenstein!

Absolutely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYeaI8SZ7SU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KBsm58YZ2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfplDTiIfFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYajBK8jiTU

Nice memories!

Maybe I should have added this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIgILmV6M4
who managed to be 1.589Km faster than this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkfkMTEqQak
and 1.166km than a doper without fault (?) at 1887 m of altitude.
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20 Jan 2019 10:41

Le breton wrote:Why do people feel the need to do this? While I wouldn't be shocked to learn he used PED's (it's cycling, afterall) I've seen zero actual evidence that he did. This just seems like a baseless charge.


Many people are unable to accept that a cyclist can be so far superior to most of his contemporaries.

Funny that 2 of the most daring dopers of the last 30 years have not been named :
MAURO GIANETTI (PFC)
and
ARMAND DE LAS CUEVAS (everything goes, incredible that he survived it).
I would put those 2 at the very top, on a par with Ricco.[/quote]
talking of Ricco, whatever happened to the Cobra? - he's making ice cream in Tenerife
https://www.oasport.it/2019/01/riccardo-ricco-faccio-i-gelati-e-sono-felice-ciclismo-pulito-non-e-cambiato-molto-e-il-livello-e-piu-basso-a-40-anni-voglio-tornare/
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27 Jan 2019 01:51

Cookster15 wrote:
franic wrote:My top 10:

10-Pantani: incredible talent but incredibly juiced
9-Ullrich: just a little bit less of a talent, the same juice as above
8-Contador: a grimpeur who beat Cancellara in a TT. The king of CERA's years
7-Vino: Ivan Drago
6-Basso: Riis' perfect disciple. Even Simoni called him an alien.
5-Rominger: Ferrari's Frankenstein
4-Riis: Mr. 60%
3-Indurain: 188cm, 80kg and still always there in the mountains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANGbb1Yz8Hw
2-Armstrong: I don't think he doped much more than the others but his attitude, the fact that he deceived thousands of sick people and what he did to Simeoni put him right in spot nr.2
1-Froome: the weakest rider who has ever managed to win a GT. A donkey turned into a horse. Never seen anything like this even during the golden era of EPO


Pantani in the hall of shame? I don't think he doped more than anyone else at that time.

I guess he makes it because of those climbing times, he still has a lot of records.

I always thought he was a perfect storm - huge natural talent combined with the capacity to respond to doping.
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