Log in:  

Register

Fully doped cycling? 65km TDF Stage 17

The Clinic is the only place on Cyclingnews where you can discuss doping-related issues. Ask questions, discuss positives or improvements to procedures.

Moderators: Eshnar, King Boonen, Red Rick, Pricey_sky

Fully doped cycling? 65km TDF Stage 17

29 Jun 2018 01:40

Should be nuts. Froome no doubt will implement the motor, RoboLanda might attack from he start, Valverde might just win by attacking his teammates? Whatever happens it should be an all out moto & doping fest into the 7.0w p/kg! :lol:

Image

Wednesday, 25 July 2018 – The 17th stage of the Tour de France goes to the summit of the Col de Portet. The route is only 65 kilometres long, but 38 kilometres of it runs uphill. Although being the shortest road stage of the 2018 Tour, this could very well turn out to be the hardest. The race ends with a sweeping 16 kilometres haul to the top of the Portet.

The shortest stage in last year’s Tour went to Foix and was a sensational ride. The race offered fireworks from start to finish before Warren Barguil outsprinted Nairo Quintana, Albert Contador and Mikel Landa on the line.

The 17th stage of the 2018 Tour de France begins in Bagnères-de-Luchon and the first peak is crested at kilometre 15. The climb up the Montée de Peyragudes is 14.9 kilometres, so it’s all systems go once the flag is dropped. To pep up the start riders are lined up as in a Formula 1 race. The starting grid features the top 20 in the first group (yellow jersey obviously on the first line). The rest of the field starts in four groups behind them, depending on the rider’s position on GC. So, as the route goes uphill straight away, top 20 riders can put pressure on their rivals and fly up the climb. Some GC-riders will want to wait for their domestics, other perhaps will not…


The Montée de Peyragudes consist of two climbs, the Peyresourde and the actual Peyragudes. The Col de Peyresourde is 13.7 kilometres at 6.9%. Last year it was the run-in to the finale at Peyragudes Altiport. On the steep arrival Romain Bardet bested his rivals, while Mikel Landa left his then leader Chris Froome behind.

Unlike last year, the riders turn left after the Peyresourde to move past the altiport and crest the Peyragudes after another 1.2 kilometre of climbing. The full 14.9 kilometres of the climb are averaging before the route drops down to Loudenvielle.

The second climb is the Col de Val Louron-Azet, which is a 7.4 kilometres toil at 8.3%. The KOM points are up for grabs where Claudio Chiappucci took a stage victory back in 1991. This time, the riders have 38 kilometres left to race.

Following the descent to Saint-Lary-Soulan the riders face one more challenge, which is the extremely demanding closing climb to the summit of the Col de Portet. The 16 kilometres ascent is averaging 8.7%, while the second, third ánd last kilometre are the steepest sectors, all with double digits gradients. Only one moment of respite for the tired legs when the climb flattens out to a false flat after 7 kilometres. Yet, this section is only 400 metres…

The first three riders on the line win time bonuses of 10, 6 and 4 seconds. The intermediate sprint (at kilometre 27.5) does not come with a time bonus.


https://www.cyclingstage.com/tour-de-france-2018-route/stage-17-tdf-2018/
User avatar thehog
Veteran
 
Posts: 21,480
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 20:00

29 Jun 2018 02:21

final climb is way too hard, everyone will wait
User avatar zlev11
Member
 
Posts: 612
Joined: 23 Jan 2011 17:49

29 Jun 2018 02:28

In an interview (either yesterday or today) Valverde did make the comment (and I'm paraphrasing), win or lose we (referring to himself, Landa and Quintana) will put on a show. Now if they all wait til the end it is likely Valverde wins it in a sprint. LOL
User avatar Koronin
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,457
Joined: 14 Oct 2017 01:42
Location: North Carolina, USA

29 Jun 2018 02:34

I'd prefer the use of the term "retard" to be dropped.
User avatar Alex Simmons/RST
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,245
Joined: 10 Mar 2009 23:47
Location: Australia

Re:

29 Jun 2018 02:42

Koronin wrote:In an interview (either yesterday or today) Valverde did make the comment (and I'm paraphrasing), win or lose we (referring to himself, Landa and Quintana) will put on a show. Now if they all wait til the end it is likely Valverde wins it in a sprint. LOL


The key is because of the F1 line up at the start does the team leader wait for his team on climb 1? Or just ride it out?
User avatar thehog
Veteran
 
Posts: 21,480
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 20:00

Re: Re:

29 Jun 2018 03:06

thehog wrote:
Koronin wrote:In an interview (either yesterday or today) Valverde did make the comment (and I'm paraphrasing), win or lose we (referring to himself, Landa and Quintana) will put on a show. Now if they all wait til the end it is likely Valverde wins it in a sprint. LOL


The key is because of the F1 line up at the start does the team leader wait for his team on climb 1? Or just ride it out?



That'll be interesting. It will also be interesting to see which teams have how many riders in that group. If all goes well for Movistar they will have their big 3 in that group and possibly either Soler or Amador (maybe). Bahrain might be able to have one or both of the Izagirre brothers in that group with Nibali. Then how many Sky riders are there.
User avatar Koronin
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,457
Joined: 14 Oct 2017 01:42
Location: North Carolina, USA

29 Jun 2018 05:29

God only knows why this thread is in the clinic :confused:

As for retard...Expecting Froomey to put 10 minutes into everyone. ;)
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
User avatar silvergrenade
Member
 
Posts: 1,657
Joined: 23 Jan 2016 17:30

Re:

29 Jun 2018 05:41

silvergrenade wrote:God only knows why this thread is in the clinic :confused:

As for retard...Expecting Froomey to put 10 minutes into everyone. ;)



I think because of the motor and doping comment in the very first post. I think the original poster was trying to start a conversation based on that, the rest of us didn't follow that.
User avatar Koronin
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,457
Joined: 14 Oct 2017 01:42
Location: North Carolina, USA

29 Jun 2018 06:47

It's dangerous to guess someone's motives in a nuance-poor environment such as an online forum, but I think the objection is to the use of a derogatory term for a mental handicap as a "humorous" way of referring to illegal activities.

And if that was the objection, I totally agree with it.
User avatar Armchair cyclist
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3,973
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 17:28
Location: East of England, West of Ireland

Re:

29 Jun 2018 07:10

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:I'd prefer the use of the term "retard" to be dropped.

I suppose it means coming in late
with the full gruppetto,

Otherwise, yes it is a tad politically incorrect.
Non?
User avatar TourOfSardinia
Veteran
 
Posts: 7,680
Joined: 16 Feb 2010 14:25
Location: Sardinia

Re:

29 Jun 2018 08:06

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:I'd prefer the use of the term "retard" to be dropped.

absolutely shocking that word gets used on here and mods are happily for it to be used...its a stain on the forum
rick james
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,359
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 13:21
Location: Ecosse

Re: Re:

29 Jun 2018 08:10

TourOfSardinia wrote:
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:I'd prefer the use of the term "retard" to be dropped.

I suppose it means coming in late
with the full gruppetto,

Otherwise, yes it is a tad politically incorrect.
Non?

Nah, the word's fine.
I'm a retard and I don't find it offensive at all...
Shut up, Jens!
glassmoon
Member
 
Posts: 1,485
Joined: 19 May 2012 08:56

Re: Re:

29 Jun 2018 09:27

Koronin wrote:
thehog wrote:
Koronin wrote:In an interview (either yesterday or today) Valverde did make the comment (and I'm paraphrasing), win or lose we (referring to himself, Landa and Quintana) will put on a show. Now if they all wait til the end it is likely Valverde wins it in a sprint. LOL


The key is because of the F1 line up at the start does the team leader wait for his team on climb 1? Or just ride it out?



That'll be interesting. It will also be interesting to see which teams have how many riders in that group. If all goes well for Movistar they will have their big 3 in that group and possibly either Soler or Amador (maybe). Bahrain might be able to have one or both of the Izagirre brothers in that group with Nibali. Then how many Sky riders are there.


Team placings will be crucial unless Froome wants to go it alone. Although startup with a climb it’s going to be hard to wait for teammates.
User avatar thehog
Veteran
 
Posts: 21,480
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 20:00

Re:

29 Jun 2018 19:07

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:I'd prefer the use of the term "retard" to be dropped.


I agree, that "full retard" thing should be reallly be retired.

Tropic Thunder is a surprisingly funny movie, but it was intentionally offensive even then, and it's definitely not funny imo when used in this context, non-ironically.
User avatar spalco
Veteran
 
Posts: 5,837
Joined: 01 Feb 2011 18:13
Location: Vienna

29 Jun 2018 19:30

This stage could be the true reason why Sky put Bernal in the line up.
User avatar Escarabajo
Veteran
 
Posts: 9,337
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 18:38
Location: USA - Central Time

Re:

29 Jun 2018 19:33

Escarabajo wrote:This stage could be the true reason why Sky put Bernal in the line up.


Agreed but i think this has got Landa or Porte written all over it.

The 200 rider warm up on rollers should be fun to watch :cool:


There's to be space at the start for every team to warm up on rollers, so that no neutralised section is needed. Then comes the special start-line arrangement. The yellow jersey will be front and centre, with the second-placed rider a few metres to his left, and the third-placed rider a few metres to his right - and so on, with the top ten riders on the front row of the grid.

User avatar thehog
Veteran
 
Posts: 21,480
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 20:00

29 Jun 2018 20:08

An interesting stage and topic spoilt by the OP reference to possible motors.
Cookster15
Member
 
Posts: 1,100
Joined: 14 May 2011 19:25

Re: Re:

29 Jun 2018 20:32

thehog wrote:
Escarabajo wrote:This stage could be the true reason why Sky put Bernal in the line up.


Agreed but i think this has got Landa or Porte written all over it.

The 200 rider warm up on rollers should be fun to watch :cool:


There's to be space at the start for every team to warm up on rollers, so that no neutralised section is needed. Then comes the special start-line arrangement. The yellow jersey will be front and centre, with the second-placed rider a few metres to his left, and the third-placed rider a few metres to his right - and so on, with the top ten riders on the front row of the grid.



I agree with Landa and Porte's name on it. It'll be interesting if Movistar can keep Soler in the top 20 as well, because if he's also there he'll have no problem going with Landa as that's how he won the Paris-Nice.
User avatar Koronin
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,457
Joined: 14 Oct 2017 01:42
Location: North Carolina, USA

29 Jun 2018 20:35

how berto woulda loved such a stage....perfect opportunity to derail the team sky train

so who's gonna do it this year?

probably G.....sorry! dawg my doping trumps your 'powder puff' effort

Mark L

ps saw G on local roads here in TT championship....he were flying.............
User avatar ebandit
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,121
Joined: 02 Aug 2012 18:24

Re: Re:

29 Jun 2018 20:38

thehog wrote:
Escarabajo wrote:This stage could be the true reason why Sky put Bernal in the line up.


Agreed but i think this has got Landa or Porte written all over it.

The 200 rider warm up on rollers should be fun to watch :cool:


There's to be space at the start for every team to warm up on rollers, so that no neutralised section is needed. Then comes the special start-line arrangement. The yellow jersey will be front and centre, with the second-placed rider a few metres to his left, and the third-placed rider a few metres to his right - and so on, with the top ten riders on the front row of the grid.




Why are these 2 posts in the clinic? They should be in a race thread.... rollers and talk of Bernal don’t have anything to do with doping....what a waste of time this thread is
rick james
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,359
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 13:21
Location: Ecosse

Next

Return to The Clinic

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Eyeballs Out and 14 guests

Back to top