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08 Feb 2018 14:57

TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:
TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:UKAD's external legal fees in the Tyson Fury case were £500,000+

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42965999

This is an example of how stringing his AAF case out works in Froome's favour. As time ticks by and with multiple lines of defence put forward the UCI's legal fees keep going up. And the financial pressure on the UCI to settle becomes greater


The funniest part of that story is Fury's excuse - "eating uncastrated boar" .......


Odd distinction to make. Why would someone castrate a boar? They're not race horses or family pets!


And how would that affect nandrolone levels ...

One of the funnier ones I've heard.


No, srsly :)

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1097-0231(20000630)14:12%3C1058::AID-RCM991%3E3.0.CO;2-7/abstract
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Re: Re:

08 Feb 2018 15:33

TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:
TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:UKAD's external legal fees in the Tyson Fury case were £500,000+

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42965999

This is an example of how stringing his AAF case out works in Froome's favour. As time ticks by and with multiple lines of defence put forward the UCI's legal fees keep going up. And the financial pressure on the UCI to settle becomes greater


The funniest part of that story is Fury's excuse - "eating uncastrated boar" .......


Odd distinction to make. Why would someone castrate a boar? They're not race horses or family pets!


And how would that affect nandrolone levels ...

One of the funnier ones I've heard.


Nandrolone is an endogenous intermediate in estradiol production from testosterone, it's the precursor to 17-beta-estradiol.
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08 Feb 2018 15:48

This world never ceases to amaze me. I can bet that Fury didn't eat any boar though (castrated or not) ...
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08 Feb 2018 17:02

L'arriviste wrote:
TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:
TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:UKAD's external legal fees in the Tyson Fury case were £500,000+

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42965999

This is an example of how stringing his AAF case out works in Froome's favour. As time ticks by and with multiple lines of defence put forward the UCI's legal fees keep going up. And the financial pressure on the UCI to settle becomes greater


The funniest part of that story is Fury's excuse - "eating uncastrated boar" .......


Odd distinction to make. Why would someone castrate a boar? They're not race horses or family pets!


And how would that affect nandrolone levels ...

One of the funnier ones I've heard.


No, srsly :)

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1097-0231(20000630)14:12%3C1058::AID-RCM991%3E3.0.CO;2-7/abstract


:D

So now we know where Fury got his excuse from. 5mins after being notified of the doping bust his advisors are on PubMed looking to reverse engineer an excuse (however implausible) that fits the PED

Still none the wiser about the necessity of the "uncastrated" boar distinction though...
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08 Feb 2018 17:19

Wiggo's Package wrote:


:D

So now we know where Fury got his excuse from. 5mins after being notified of the doping bust his advisors are on PubMed looking to reverse engineer an excuse (however implausible) that fits the PED

Still none the wiser about the necessity of the "uncastrated" boar distinction though...

Presumably uncastrated boars produce more testo? But I dont know how youd prove the boar meat you ate was from a male or female, balls or no balls.
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08 Feb 2018 17:19

Boars are farmed in the UK, there are very small wild populations. The farmed boar is still referred to as wild, but I’m guessing males grown for meat are castrated, which is going to affect sex hormone production, so they felt the need to make the distinction. Or they just read and repeated...
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08 Feb 2018 17:21

King Boonen wrote:Boars are farmed in the UK, there are very small wild populations. The farmed boar is still referred to as wild, but I’m guessing males grown for meat are castrated, which is going to affect sex hormone production, so they felt the need to make the distinction. Or they just read and repeated...


If theyre farmed then it would be like pigs or cattle. Baby boys have their bits cut off unless they are going to be kept for siring. You cant have 'wild' males in the same field / pen / etc. - they fight.

Its also why you should avoid a field full of cows & a bull. They feel threatened.
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08 Feb 2018 20:37

TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:


:D

So now we know where Fury got his excuse from. 5mins after being notified of the doping bust his advisors are on PubMed looking to reverse engineer an excuse (however implausible) that fits the PED

Still none the wiser about the necessity of the "uncastrated" boar distinction though...

Presumably uncastrated boars produce more testo? But I dont know how youd prove the boar meat you ate was from a male or female, balls or no balls.


:lol:

So unless Fury keeps an uncastrated boar in his back garden which he killed and ate the night before...

...we know from the word "uncastrated" in his defence that he's just another doping BS merchant trying to con the ADA and game the system
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09 Feb 2018 14:16

Wiggo's Package wrote:
TheSpud wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:


:D

So now we know where Fury got his excuse from. 5mins after being notified of the doping bust his advisors are on PubMed looking to reverse engineer an excuse (however implausible) that fits the PED

Still none the wiser about the necessity of the "uncastrated" boar distinction though...

Presumably uncastrated boars produce more testo? But I dont know how youd prove the boar meat you ate was from a male or female, balls or no balls.


:lol:

So unless Fury keeps an uncastrated boar in his back garden which he killed and ate the night before...

...we know from the word "uncastrated" in his defence that he's just another doping BS merchant trying to con the ADA and game the system


Indeed the case fully deserves its place on this thread.
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10 Feb 2018 20:38

Not doping excuse, but still really funny. Few years ago members of the football national team were suspected by journalists having party at the hotel with prostitutes. On of them replied: I did not pay anything and the amount does not match :).
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Re: Unbelievable doping excuses

28 Feb 2018 06:29

Arizona's Alonzo Trier, a college basketball star, tested positive for ostarine, a selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) with muscle-building and fat burning properties. His explanation--no, I'm not making this up:
it was left over from a previous positive test for the same substance more than a year ago.

This is bizarre, but may have relevance to Froome's case. Trier first tested positive for ostarine at the end of 2016, and at that time he claimed his step-father gave it to him without his knowledge in a drink to help him recover from injuries suffered in an auto accident. Apparently the NCAA bought that, and reduced his suspension to the period of time it took the drug to clear his system. The drug has a half life of about one day, and Trier tested negative for it several times after that initial positive.

So how could he test positive for it again after all this time?

James Dalton, dean of the University of Michigan’s College of Pharmacy and the inventor of a patent for Ostarine, said the drug usually disappears from the system in “about a week.”

Dalton said that led him to suspect that either Trier is still using Ostarine, that there is a problem in the NCAA’s testing, or that the drug somehow lodged in a tissue or cyst and was released before Trier tested positive last month during a random drug test — a theory the UA will likely use in its appeal.


Notice the similarity of the bolded to what Froome's team was reportedly considering: the drug accumulated some place in the body, then was suddenly excreted. Only Trier's claim is even more dubious, because of the far longer period of time involved, and because he's arguing he didn't take any of the drug during the intervening period.

“Some people have different levels of enzymes to process drug molecules and things can linger longer, but even if he has deficiencies in his clearance, it wouldn’t go to zero and then come back,” [pharmacologist David] Ferguson said. “That’s highly unlikely unless there was something really odd going on.”


http://tucson.com/arizona-s-allonzo-trier-practices-as-he-awaits-results-of/article_79afc236-1c3c-11e8-9f21-8faf3671b0be.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/experts-allonzo-triers-explanation-latest-failed-drug-test-highly-unlikely-190802793.html

For college basketball fans, you could say the Wildcats are going through a tough period. Their coach has been caught up in the ongoing NCAA scandal. An FBI wiretap reportedly caught him offering a player $100,000, and that player and Trier are the two leading scorers on the team.
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