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12 Apr 2018 20:29

I know they’re not really climbing numbers but anyone have any recent classics power figures?
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19 Apr 2018 17:53

Durden93 wrote:I know they’re not really climbing numbers but anyone have any recent classics power figures?

There is a ton of (recent) data to scrape from Strava, if you have the time and inclination to do so (I intend to collect and organize some but haven't gotten very far yet).

For instance, none less than he-who-was-previously-known-as-El-Imbatido posted his Fleche Wallone ride from yesterday, including power data (kudos to him for doing so) - like some he keeps his account somewhat pseudonymous but it is not hard to figure out it is indeed the real Bala: https://www.strava.com/activities/1517846768#37869816295

On the final Mur de Huy ascent segment he averaged 513W for 3m14s. At a Wikipedia-listed weight of 61kg that makes 8.4 W/kg, not bad, but IMO not indicative of much except that he is a world class puncheur (not exactly news).

Another example of a good classics rider who tends to post his power data is Oliver Naesen. For both Flanders and Roubaix I think he averaged north of 300W for more than 5 hours, rather impressive.
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06 May 2018 20:59

Durden93 wrote:I know they’re not really climbing numbers but anyone have any recent classics power figures?



https://cyclingtips.com/2018/04/by-the-numbers-what-it-takes-to-win-at-the-mens-ardennes-classics/
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Re: Power Data Estimates for the climbing stages

19 May 2018 16:45

https://twitter.com/VelonCC/status/997869705624014848

420W with an average speed of 11,6km/h. LOL
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19 May 2018 19:09

And @ 80rpm to boot. By modern standards these these super steep climbs present quite unique neuromuscular demands. Gearing helps some of course, but still very slow rpm.
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Yesterday 18:13

Would love to see numbers from today
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Yesterday 19:07

More Strides than Rides wrote:Would love to see numbers from today


Stage 19. MTF Jafferau (7.25 km, 9.02 %, 654 m)

24:39 | Carapaz
24:46 | Pinot
24:51 | M.A.Lopez
25:02 | Dumoulin
25:03 | Froome
Today's fastest time (Carapaz) is 2:55 slower than record time 21:44 (Santambrogio/Nibali in 2014


Stage 19
Colle delle Finestre (18.40 km, 9.21 %, 1694 m)
Record time: Jose Rujano 1:02:16 (2011)

Froome climbed Finestre in 1:04:18.

Credit: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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Yesterday 23:43

silvergrenade wrote:
More Strides than Rides wrote:Would love to see numbers from today


Stage 19. MTF Jafferau (7.25 km, 9.02 %, 654 m)

24:39 | Carapaz
24:46 | Pinot
24:51 | M.A.Lopez
25:02 | Dumoulin
25:03 | Froome
Today's fastest time (Carapaz) is 2:55 slower than record time 21:44 (Santambrogio/Nibali in 2014


Stage 19
Colle delle Finestre (18.40 km, 9.21 %, 1694 m)
Record time: Jose Rujano 1:02:16 (2011)

Froome climbed Finestre in 1:04:18.

Credit: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily


Thanks for these data. Both of Froome's times on the climbs correspond to 5.40 W/kg by Ferrari's equation, well below the level considered more or less the limit of clean riding. Of course, most of the Finestre was climbed with the group; he would have been putting out more power after he attacked. And assuming he put out the same power on Sestriere, he was sustaining that level for about two hours of climbing, punctuated by what? 30-40 minutes of descending?

In his published data, Pinot recorded just 5.0 W/kg for 2 hours in 2013:

http://www.fredericgrappe.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pinot-ppr.pdf
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Yesterday 23:46

Merckx index wrote:
Thanks for these data. Both of Froome's times on the climbs correspond to 5.40 W/kg by Ferrari's equation, well below the level considered more or less the limit of clean riding. Of course, most of the Finestre was climbed with the group; he would have been putting out more power after he attacked. And assuming he put out the same power on Sestriere, he was sustaining that level for about two hours of climbing, punctuated by what? 30-40 minutes of descending?


TTE is obviously not linear with effort. It's just a steep exponential drop at the very end.
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