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01 Mar 2017 14:58

Because of the recent Oscars I've been reading up on Faye Dunaway having previously known very little about her, she was one person Bette Davis never wanted to work with again. (And that's taking Davis' toxic relationship with Joan Crawford into account.) Here's a short Johnny Carson clip where Davis talks about Dunaway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqFhfMqz9M&feature=youtu.be

And here's an article a guy wrote back in the late 90s about one of Dunaway's stays at a posh hotel.

https://andrewtobias.com/a-stars-suite-is-born/

Faye Dunaway may have been brilliant on screen or stage, but she's probably not someone I would want to know IRL. (That could be said of many actors, though, sometimes I wish I didn't find out what they are like off-screen, it ruins the illusion.)
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01 Mar 2017 18:18

I often got the feeling through the years Faye got shafted by the industry on more than a couple occasions, and blowback for speaking her mind on it. What happened with the great Bette Davis, I don't know, we'll never know. Same with who she really is.

Here's a corollary story. I met a guy who worked in the film industry for many years. One of the key people he said he'd work with any day is Meryl Streep, because of her professionalism, work ethic, and kindness. But if you read up on Streep, you'll also find she has a reputation of either ignoring her fans, or even treating them like obstacles in the way. So, one's thoughts on her would obviously depend on who you talk to.
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01 Mar 2017 20:58

Tricycle Rider wrote:Because of the recent Oscars I've been reading up on Faye Dunaway having previously known very little about her, she was one person Bette Davis never wanted to work with again. (And that's taking Davis' toxic relationship with Joan Crawford into account.) Here's a short Johnny Carson clip where Davis talks about Dunaway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqFhfMqz9M&feature=youtu.be

And here's an article a guy wrote back in the late 90s about one of Dunaway's stays at a posh hotel.

https://andrewtobias.com/a-stars-suite-is-born/

Faye Dunaway may have been brilliant on screen or stage, but she's probably not someone I would want to know IRL. (That could be said of many actors, though, sometimes I wish I didn't find out what they are like off-screen, it ruins the illusion.)


I don't think she was a great actress. With her it was more about being a star. She hit the ground running with Bonnie and Clyde which was one of hers and Warren Beatty's best films but ended up being in a lot of rubbish and getting paid too much to do so. A lot of people couldn't stand her and her diva antics. She was also good in Chinatown. Her last good role was probably in the Mickey Rourke movie Barfly where she wasn't very convincing as an alcoholic. The film was a mediocre adaptation of some Bukowski stories. Rourke's career was going south at that point as well even though he was in some decent films in his comeback. Rourke's story would provide sobering reading to any young actors wanting fame and glory in Hollywood.
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01 Mar 2017 21:36

Interesting article on most demanding stars (and directors) to work with:

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/most-demanding-hollywood-stars.html/?a=viewall

Regarding Dunaway in Bonnie & Clyde, that very last shot of her, the look on her face during the quick cuts; just a few frames, but worth a million bucks. Hollywood magic at it's best right there.
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01 Mar 2017 21:59

Alpe d'Huez wrote:Interesting article on most demanding stars (and directors) to work with:

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/most-demanding-hollywood-stars.html/?a=viewall

Regarding Dunaway in Bonnie & Clyde, that very last shot of her, the look on her face during the quick cuts; just a few frames, but worth a million bucks. Hollywood magic at it's best right there.


I think the same thing about her in network, when Beale is starting his rant, a they cut back to her for a few seconds and at a time you see the look of almost lustful pleasure build on her face.
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01 Mar 2017 23:00

Dumbest thing ever... when I was a kid I "branded" (with just a black marker, mind) one of my dolls with the fleur de lis because Faye Dunaway made the branding seem so cool in The Three Musketeers.

(It's only much later that I had found out what that kind of branding actually meant/means.)
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01 Mar 2017 23:49

Alpe d'Huez wrote:Interesting article on most demanding stars (and directors) to work with:

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/most-demanding-hollywood-stars.html/?a=viewall

Regarding Dunaway in Bonnie & Clyde, that very last shot of her, the look on her face during the quick cuts; just a few frames, but worth a million bucks. Hollywood magic at it's best right there.


A lot of critics said that was a seminal moment in 60s film history. The violence of the final scene. A very good film.
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01 Mar 2017 23:55

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Alpe d'Huez wrote:Interesting article on most demanding stars (and directors) to work with:

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/most-demanding-hollywood-stars.html/?a=viewall

Regarding Dunaway in Bonnie & Clyde, that very last shot of her, the look on her face during the quick cuts; just a few frames, but worth a million bucks. Hollywood magic at it's best right there.


I think the same thing about her in network, when Beale is starting his rant, a they cut back to her for a few seconds and at a time you see the look of almost lustful pleasure build on her face.


Forgot about Network, another great movie but what a cast. William Holden, Ned Beatty, Dunaway, Peter Finch, Robert Duvall and so on. She was utterly believable in that role, it's a shame she didn't play more of those types or parts. She had some great scenes with William Holden who was probably the only sympathetic character along with Finch who was great as someone who basically had a breakdown on national TV, he deserved his posthumous Oscar.
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03 Mar 2017 09:16

Behind the Candelabra - wow, what did they do to Rob Lowe's face? They must have all been laughing once he got out of the make-up chair, well, except for Rob Lowe himself... his face was so tightly pulled back any attempt at making a facial expression might have cracked his make-up. Michael Douglas looked creepy, Matt Damon looked like he had gotten out of a boxing match, and I didn't even realize it was Debbie Reynolds who was playing Liberace's mother. The make-up department must have had a blast with this gig.

I thought this was an interesting movie, it certainly had a lot of star power. (In addition to the aforementioned it also had Scott Bakula, Dan Aykroyd and Paul Reiser.) It's hard to say whether the story was all true because Liberace's lover seems to have lived a messed up life (the story is based on his book and he's currently serving time in prison), and if Liberace were still alive he'd probably still be denying everything. But if there's one thing that can't be denied is that Liberace was very, very gay - just looking at him and his wardrobe I don't know how any woman could have thought otherwise.
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03 Mar 2017 15:53

As a boy, I think he was the very first person I ever heard of as being gay. He was always strange, and I think my parents told me he was gay, even though Liberace was in the closet to the end. After one look at him, I got it, understood what they meant. (Not that it matters, but I'm straight and always have been. So I didn't have some pre-teen gaydar going on.). Thus, I can't imagine anyone alive who thought he was straight. Clips of this film remind me some of Mommie Dearest, which we were just talking about.

Funny how time has passed, and it seems like he never needed to come out of the closet, because he was never "in" the closet, really. Sort of like Boy George. Did anyone ever really think that guy was straight? Now, mercifully, no one cares.

Rob Lowe is quite good in the TV show Code Black. I think what makes it work is that he's allowed himself to somewhat show his age in it. He's 52 in real life, and looks and acts close to it in the show. I mean that in a good, adult way.
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03 Mar 2017 21:40

Alpe d'Huez wrote:As a boy, I think he was the very first person I ever heard of as being gay. He was always strange, and I think my parents told me he was gay, even though Liberace was in the closet to the end. After one look at him, I got it, understood what they meant. (Not that it matters, but I'm straight and always have been. So I didn't have some pre-teen gaydar going on.). Thus, I can't imagine anyone alive who thought he was straight. Clips of this film remind me some of Mommie Dearest, which we were just talking about.

Funny how time has passed, and it seems like he never needed to come out of the closet, because he was never "in" the closet, really. Sort of like Boy George. Did anyone ever really think that guy was straight? Now, mercifully, no one cares.

Rob Lowe is quite good in the TV show Code Black. I think what makes it work is that he's allowed himself to somewhat show his age in it. He's 52 in real life, and looks and acts close to it in the show. I mean that in a good, adult way.
If you talk to the really, really old women Liberace must have seemed like a mother's dream come true for their daughters- he seemed nice and sweet, was rich, and he took good care of his own mother. And Liberace had apparently said in his own biography that Sonja Henie was his one and only true love, and he was never able to replace her - hello, old ladies (if you're still alive, that is) - how many more clues did you need?

Rob Lowe was all right during his "brat pack" years (didn't really care for them myself at the time), and then there was some kind of a hiccup about his sexual proclivities... but I thought he did really well in the West Wing.

Not familiar with Code Black, but as long as he can stay away from under-aged 16yr. old. girls I'm all right with him having been given a second chance as an actor.
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01 May 2017 17:32

Happy Birthday to Danielle Darrieux, aged 100 today! :surprised:

I will always remember her performance in Julien Duvivier's Marie-Octobre. An indoor film which really highlights the actors' skills more than anything and a real thriller. Masterpiece of French cinema and an all-star cast. :)

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Edit: it's on YT with ENG subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5VrJJqAIVU
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