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20 Apr 2016 13:37

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BigMac wrote:I honestly don't get what people see in GoT. It's really crappy. Borderline disgusting if you ask me. And then I hear people say it's the perfect metaphor/account of real life. :eek:


You need to read more history. Remove the fantasy element and the behavior of the kings and queens is no worse that real life maybe even better in some cases ! I don't see anything disgusting about it but if you are the squeamish type I can understand why you would not like it. The fact that any of the characters or most of them could be bumped off at any time is what makes people watch it I think not to mention plenty of action scenes, dragons, zombies, attractive women and devious politics. In some ways I think it has improved on the books. Rome was a good series if you are interested in Roman history but it was also fairly explicit.


My History is quite good. The amounts of gore, violence and cruelty shown are nowhere near similar to what actually happened across Europe or before in history. There were wars, some Kings were very opressive and repressive, but the amount of bloodshed in GoT is downright moronic and pointless. It has no plot value whatsoever, it really is just there to satisfy the inner sadist in people. GoT not only depicts violence, it glorifies it - it cannot go 5 episodes without a ceremonial beheading done by characters the series implicitly places on the most moral side of the story. Besides that, what annoys me the most is the total hopelesness around it. It's always the same coming victorious, the ''good guys'' or those people most empathize with are the ones who suffer the most and who have a constant aura of despair around them. The show (or the books) tried too hard not to be cliché it's become way too bleak. This show is the medieval stereotype taken to the extreme, there's not one tiny bit of happiness or good fortune shown. What you call attractive women I call unnecessary sex scenes that go on for too long on a tiny cicle. I'm told the books are nowhere near as graphical on this account, but I guess the show had to do it to attract a larger audience. Not to mention the rape. We get it, it happened, but the amount of times it is depicted is just nonsensical. The more I think of it the more I'm certain this series is just sick, sorry. Politics here are just a pretentious add on. The show appears to be intellectually challenging and full of intrigue when in reality it's just an expensive snuff film with an unusual plot.
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20 Apr 2016 14:08

I don't know about the other books/seasons, but the first season describes exactly what happens in the first book. I was actually surprised that there were really not many differences at all. Everytime I watch a movie/tv show based on a book, there are always many alterations, but GoT is almost an exact copy.

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20 Apr 2016 14:28

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BigMac wrote:I honestly don't get what people see in GoT. It's really crappy. Borderline disgusting if you ask me. And then I hear people say it's the perfect metaphor/account of real life. :eek:


You need to read more history. Remove the fantasy element and the behavior of the kings and queens is no worse that real life maybe even better in some cases ! I don't see anything disgusting about it but if you are the squeamish type I can understand why you would not like it. The fact that any of the characters or most of them could be bumped off at any time is what makes people watch it I think not to mention plenty of action scenes, dragons, zombies, attractive women and devious politics. In some ways I think it has improved on the books. Rome was a good series if you are interested in Roman history but it was also fairly explicit.


Any character can be bumped off at any time? :confused:

With the exception of Jeoffrey they all die at the end of the season. Ned - Episode 9. Robb - episode 9. Catelyn Episode 9. Hound - episode 10. Martell episode 9. Shae Episode 10. Tywin episode 10. Stannis Episode 10. John Snow episode 10. Ygritte Episode 9 etc.


And that is an example of how GOT is dumbed down from the books for a mass audience. It basically works similar to wrestling. They spend 8 episodes building characters up in order to have a big showdown in the ppv (penutlimate episode) then tie the loose ends in the final episode to build for the next series. Like in professional wrestling, they spend the earlier episodes throwing loads of minor characters at the lead characters so that the lead characters can "own" them, thereby building reputation for themselves. I don't think I've seen a single scene in the series yet in which the extras serve any other purpose than just to be humiliated by the main characters like Tywin, Arya etc in order to create a "OMG, x is so awessome" reaction.

The fact that all the actors are super models, which you refference is another example of this. Just taking a book and making it hollywood because the masses are more likely to watch if the guys/ girls are "hot" so lets just make all the characters hot.
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20 Apr 2016 17:10

Although I haven't seen a single episode, my favourite tv series is The Wire. Hands down. No doubt about it.
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20 Apr 2016 17:15

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My History is quite good. The amounts of gore, violence and cruelty shown are nowhere near similar to what actually happened across Europe or before in history. There were wars, some Kings were very opressive and repressive, but the amount of bloodshed in GoT is downright moronic and pointless. It has no plot value whatsoever, it really is just there to satisfy the inner sadist in people. GoT not only depicts violence, it glorifies it - it cannot go 5 episodes without a ceremonial beheading done by characters the series implicitly places on the most moral side of the story. Besides that, what annoys me the most is the total hopelesness around it. It's always the same coming victorious, the ''good guys'' or those people most empathize with are the ones who suffer the most and who have a constant aura of despair around them. The show (or the books) tried too hard not to be cliché it's become way too bleak. This show is the medieval stereotype taken to the extreme, there's not one tiny bit of happiness or good fortune shown. What you call attractive women I call unnecessary sex scenes that go on for too long on a tiny cicle. I'm told the books are nowhere near as graphical on this account, but I guess the show had to do it to attract a larger audience. Not to mention the rape. We get it, it happened, but the amount of times it is depicted is just nonsensical. The more I think of it the more I'm certain this series is just sick, sorry. Politics here are just a pretentious add on. The show appears to be intellectually challenging and full of intrigue when in reality it's just an expensive snuff film with an unusual plot.


Oh BigMac! I don't have time to expand but this is so true. So nice to read. :)

Hollywood has just demonized the Middle Ages for very long, think of The Name of the Rose. As though current leaders were any better.

I'd love to see the film "Les filles du Moyen-Age". Good French film about the period, another side of the story.
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21 Apr 2016 12:16

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movingtarget wrote:
BigMac wrote:I honestly don't get what people see in GoT. It's really crappy. Borderline disgusting if you ask me. And then I hear people say it's the perfect metaphor/account of real life. :eek:


You need to read more history. Remove the fantasy element and the behavior of the kings and queens is no worse that real life maybe even better in some cases ! I don't see anything disgusting about it but if you are the squeamish type I can understand why you would not like it. The fact that any of the characters or most of them could be bumped off at any time is what makes people watch it I think not to mention plenty of action scenes, dragons, zombies, attractive women and devious politics. In some ways I think it has improved on the books. Rome was a good series if you are interested in Roman history but it was also fairly explicit.


Any character can be bumped off at any time? :confused:

With the exception of Jeoffrey they all die at the end of the season. Ned - Episode 9. Robb - episode 9. Catelyn Episode 9. Hound - episode 10. Martell episode 9. Shae Episode 10. Tywin episode 10. Stannis Episode 10. John Snow episode 10. Ygritte Episode 9 etc.


And that is an example of how GOT is dumbed down from the books for a mass audience. It basically works similar to wrestling. They spend 8 episodes building characters up in order to have a big showdown in the ppv (penutlimate episode) then tie the loose ends in the final episode to build for the next series. Like in professional wrestling, they spend the earlier episodes throwing loads of minor characters at the lead characters so that the lead characters can "own" them, thereby building reputation for themselves. I don't think I've seen a single scene in the series yet in which the extras serve any other purpose than just to be humiliated by the main characters like Tywin, Arya etc in order to create a "OMG, x is so awessome" reaction.

The fact that all the actors are super models, which you refference is another example of this. Just taking a book and making it hollywood because the masses are more likely to watch if the guys/ girls are "hot" so lets just make all the characters hot.


Well along with other people I believe that some of the changes where they have not followed the books have been an improvement but I have only read the first three books. I Don't find it so much dumbed down. For example Robb was not featured in the books much compared to the series same with his mother. Rob's wife did not die in the book and so on. As for the looks of the actors well it is what it is and most blockbusters don't feature many average looking people that is the commercial reality of getting financing for movies and TV. Remove Peter Dinklage from the series and I think it would suffer badly along with one or two other actors.

I don't think the violence and death is so bad that it stops me from watching it. Deadwood was also a great series and it never pulled any punches and it was based on fact. If others don't like it that's up to them of course. As for the last rape scene it all happened off screen and it was in character for the rapist himself who is probably the least liked remaining character in the series. Like George RR Martin said rape is a reality and always has been especially in times of war. It disturbs people because it is meant to and it was just one more moment in the series that polarized opinions and lost some viewers for good it seems just like the Blood Wedding. Based on what has been shown on TV over the years I am surprised that the violence and sex scenes in GOT still bother some people so much. If they don't have the stomach for such viewing then why tune in at all if they have read anything about it ? Compared to the average 80's horror movie GOT is hardly a continual catalogue of horrors. The episodes vary quite a lot as far as how graphic they are. The horror is not relentless otherwise they would lose a larger proportion of their audience.
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21 Apr 2016 17:58

the delgados wrote:Although I haven't seen a single episode, my favourite tv series is The Wire. Hands down. No doubt about it.


Give this man a medal!
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21 Apr 2016 20:05

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21 Apr 2016 23:16

Im not super in to series or movies, but when I decide to try and watch a series I get recommended, it's usually worth it. I usually always feel after getting finished that it definitely was the BEST SERIES EVAH!

1. House of Cards. By a mile. Since I just finished it.
2. Suits
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22 Apr 2016 05:42

Sopranos
Breaking bad
The wire

The holy trinity

Watching better call saul and house of cards now.
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22 Apr 2016 13:06

jens_attacks wrote:Sopranos
Breaking bad
The wire

The holy trinity

Watching better call saul and house of cards now.


I think you will like House of Cards. Breaking Bad was great and I hope to catch up with The Wire and the Sopranos one day. I am enjoying Season One of Better Call Saul.
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22 Apr 2016 13:33

the delgados wrote:Although I haven't seen a single episode, my favourite tv series is The Wire. Hands down. No doubt about it.

I agree with you 100% and I have never watched a single episode either.
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22 Apr 2016 15:40

The Hitch wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
BigMac wrote:I honestly don't get what people see in GoT. It's really crappy. Borderline disgusting if you ask me. And then I hear people say it's the perfect metaphor/account of real life. :eek:


You need to read more history. Remove the fantasy element and the behavior of the kings and queens is no worse that real life maybe even better in some cases ! I don't see anything disgusting about it but if you are the squeamish type I can understand why you would not like it. The fact that any of the characters or most of them could be bumped off at any time is what makes people watch it I think not to mention plenty of action scenes, dragons, zombies, attractive women and devious politics. In some ways I think it has improved on the books. Rome was a good series if you are interested in Roman history but it was also fairly explicit.


Any character can be bumped off at any time? :confused:

With the exception of Jeoffrey they all die at the end of the season. Ned - Episode 9. Robb - episode 9. Catelyn Episode 9. Hound - episode 10. Martell episode 9. Shae Episode 10. Tywin episode 10. Stannis Episode 10. John Snow episode 10. Ygritte Episode 9 etc.


And that is an example of how GOT is dumbed down from the books for a mass audience. It basically works similar to wrestling. They spend 8 episodes building characters up in order to have a big showdown in the ppv (penutlimate episode) then tie the loose ends in the final episode to build for the next series. Like in professional wrestling, they spend the earlier episodes throwing loads of minor characters at the lead characters so that the lead characters can "own" them, thereby building reputation for themselves. I don't think I've seen a single scene in the series yet in which the extras serve any other purpose than just to be humiliated by the main characters like Tywin, Arya etc in order to create a "OMG, x is so awessome" reaction.

The fact that all the actors are super models, which you refference is another example of this. Just taking a book and making it hollywood because the masses are more likely to watch if the guys/ girls are "hot" so lets just make all the characters hot.


Did any of you watch Battlestar galatica remake . That was truly awesome and any character " did get bumped off" It was truly memorising TV . Very political and dark and close relationships put to extreme tests
This was incredible TV.
I think only the incredible Swede /Danish, French shows compete. Nice long scenes to let the tales unfold rather than the quick edit dirge we mostly have to suffer.
I did enjoy the recent Fargo , brilliant stuff as well.
I'm also enjoying the beebs Undercover. Great acting . Sophie Okonedo is just great and I would make her the new Dr Who when PC goes.
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22 Apr 2016 17:13

I have never watched a single episode of GoT. :eek:

I have, however, watched the Wire, and consider it to be one of the three best multi-season series I have ever watched, the other two being Sopranos and, of course, BrBa.

The best series I have seen since BrBa is season two of Fargo, which I thought was thoroughly excellent in every respect.
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23 Apr 2016 05:58

I think the first season was much better personally
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23 Apr 2016 14:21

ray j willings wrote:
The Hitch wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
BigMac wrote:I honestly don't get what people see in GoT. It's really crappy. Borderline disgusting if you ask me. And then I hear people say it's the perfect metaphor/account of real life. :eek:


You need to read more history. Remove the fantasy element and the behavior of the kings and queens is no worse that real life maybe even better in some cases ! I don't see anything disgusting about it but if you are the squeamish type I can understand why you would not like it. The fact that any of the characters or most of them could be bumped off at any time is what makes people watch it I think not to mention plenty of action scenes, dragons, zombies, attractive women and devious politics. In some ways I think it has improved on the books. Rome was a good series if you are interested in Roman history but it was also fairly explicit.


Any character can be bumped off at any time? :confused:

With the exception of Jeoffrey they all die at the end of the season. Ned - Episode 9. Robb - episode 9. Catelyn Episode 9. Hound - episode 10. Martell episode 9. Shae Episode 10. Tywin episode 10. Stannis Episode 10. John Snow episode 10. Ygritte Episode 9 etc.


And that is an example of how GOT is dumbed down from the books for a mass audience. It basically works similar to wrestling. They spend 8 episodes building characters up in order to have a big showdown in the ppv (penutlimate episode) then tie the loose ends in the final episode to build for the next series. Like in professional wrestling, they spend the earlier episodes throwing loads of minor characters at the lead characters so that the lead characters can "own" them, thereby building reputation for themselves. I don't think I've seen a single scene in the series yet in which the extras serve any other purpose than just to be humiliated by the main characters like Tywin, Arya etc in order to create a "OMG, x is so awessome" reaction.

The fact that all the actors are super models, which you refference is another example of this. Just taking a book and making it hollywood because the masses are more likely to watch if the guys/ girls are "hot" so lets just make all the characters hot.


Did any of you watch Battlestar galatica remake . That was truly awesome and any character " did get bumped off" It was truly memorising TV . Very political and dark and close relationships put to extreme tests
This was incredible TV.
I think only the incredible Swede /Danish, French shows compete. Nice long scenes to let the tales unfold rather than the quick edit dirge we mostly have to suffer.
I did enjoy the recent Fargo , brilliant stuff as well.
I'm also enjoying the beebs Undercover. Great acting . Sophie Okonedo is just great and I would make her the new Dr Who when PC goes.


Fargo was great. Have not watched any Battlestar Galactica but some of the reviews I read were really positive.
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Re: Best/favorite TV series ever

24 Apr 2016 09:43

Battlestar is quite slow and intense. It definitely takes a show or 2 to get into it but once your in " its superb"
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Re: Best/favorite TV series ever

01 May 2016 02:00

I've recently acquired a Netflix subscription and have been watching Friends. I saw a few episodes here and there when it used to be on German TV but I never really watched it regularly. Plus a lot of the other sitcoms on Netflix I have already seen, like How I Met Your Mother or Modern Family.

I have to say I quite like it! Is is generally quite funny, but also serious sometimes, and not too goofy. One of the main differences I noticed to current sitcoms, is that most "quiproquo" type situations are resolved rather quickly and not drawn out over an entire episode or even several episodes. That I find rather refreshing. I was also a little surprised at some of the themes. Despite being a very "PG13" show, I think it has a quite healthy and progressive view of sex. Monica, Phoebe and Rachel are strong, independent caracters in my opinion. There are also some weird storylines, some involving Phoebe's family, or animals (Ross' monkey, Joey and Chandler's duck), or Chander's smoking. The smoking is in a way also quite refreshing because I feel like such a storyline would not be acceptable in a family friendly sitcom today. Or simply not relatable because less people smoke in the US.

Another fun thing is to make out guest stars in the early seasons, such as George Clooney as a doctor and love interest of Rachels, Jean Claude Van Damme as himself and Monica's love interest, Adam Goldberg as Chandler's crazy room mate, or Charlie Sheen as a marine and Phoebe's love interest.
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15 May 2016 22:57

Enjoying the 3rd Season of Silicon Valley.....nothing too cerebral, but entertaining / funny!
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17 May 2016 16:32

Undercover was great. BBC [ I hate the beeb] got it right .
Empire " love it"
Marcella has been very good although the plot seems a bit bonkers.

Housewife's of Cheshire ,perhaps the greatest performances of all time :D
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