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10 Sep 2011 20:23

Is there a boxing thread already? I dont know.... But anyway Adamek v Vitali is coming up.... I am really looking forward to it. Full football stadium in poland and 2 tough guys, might be good, otherwise might be the usual klitschko fight :confused:.... I hope for a good one that Vitali wins
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10 Sep 2011 20:38

I think this Polish man is not one of those who starts crying when the righthander is tested for the first time.
He can take a lot, but that means a lot of pain. :)

But I doubt that he can knock out Vitali. Had to be a very lucky punches.

btw, also busy with US Open and wondered why there is no US Open thread. Djoko strikes back now.
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10 Sep 2011 20:42

Cobblestoned wrote:I think this Polish man is not one of those who starts crying when the righthander is tested for the first time.
He can take a lot, but that means a lot of pain. :)

But I doubt that he can knock out Vitali. Had to be a very lucky punches.

btw, also busy with US Open and wondered why there is no US Open thread. Djoko strikes back now.

Is there a tennis thread or us open thread? I dont know, but I am sure if you make one then the poster will post :cool:


yes from what I have seen adamek is very tough but vitali is also very strong, it should be a very interesting fight and I hope it doesn't end on points.
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10 Sep 2011 20:54

palmerq wrote:Is there a tennis thread or us open thread? I dont know, but I am sure if you make one then the poster will post :cool:


yes from what I have seen adamek is very tough but vitali is also very strong, it should be a very interesting fight and I hope it doesn't end on points.

I think it's too late now. Only one and a half day left.
But I saw there is a Nadal-thread in the clinic. :D

I like it when the Ukrainian anthem is running together with the Klitschkos putting on their bad face then. :mad: :mad:
Always reminds me of Ivan Drago.
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10 Sep 2011 21:04

Cobblestoned wrote:I think it's too late now. Only one and a half day left.
But I saw there is a Nadal-thread in the clinic. :D

I like it when the Ukrainian anthem is running together with the Klitschkos putting on their bad face then. :mad: :mad:
Always reminds me of Ivan Drago.


national anthem of poland now... everyone is singing :S................


I hope vitali will play the german national anthem instead, it is where his money comes from :cool:
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10 Sep 2011 21:15

Ui :D

Poor guy. Vitali still nice to him. Good for the people.
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10 Sep 2011 21:21

Watching the fight now. The size difference is astounding. Hard to see how Klitschko can lose.

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10 Sep 2011 21:35

Susan Westemeyer wrote:Watching the fight now. The size difference is astounding. Hard to see how Klitschko can lose.

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yes it is.. but adamek is a very tough man.. I have vitali winnng on the scorecard but tomasz is making a good fight.. he got a standing 8 count though... vitali is getting him now :cool:
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10 Sep 2011 21:54

it's over the ref stopped it in the 10th round, I think he's right, adamek was taking a beating, he was taking shots on the chin and he had no answer, hats off to him for not going down, but I think the ref did him a favour here for his future health...

Good work from 40 year old Vitali and good work from adamek everything was agaisnt him and he kept swining, I have a lot of respect for him, far more than haye anyway.
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10 Sep 2011 21:56

Thats it.

Vitali is nice man.
I think heavyweight-class is too much for Adamek.
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10 Sep 2011 22:01

Cobblestoned wrote:Thats it.

Vitali is nice man.
I think heavyweight-class is too much for Adamek.


Yes he is small, but he was impressive is some ways, 10 or 15 kgs less than vitali and he didnt get knocked down, the ref had to stop it, I think it was a good decision by the ref.. Adamek did good though He can beat a lot of people at heavyweight I think. He looked very tough today and always wanted to fight for the win, hats off to him
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11 Sep 2011 03:24

Susan Westemeyer wrote:Watching the fight now. The size difference is astounding. Hard to see how Klitschko can lose.

It's not necessarily size, though that usually helps. It's going to take someone with very fast hands and great defense, or a pressure fighter with a hard chin to take out the Klitschkos. They need to move forward, get inside, and keep the pace high. Whenever someone has tried to get inside, the Klitschkos tend to just hold or wrestle them around and stall (strangely, hardly anyone complains about the holding). Problem is, the HW division is completely devoid of talent right now it seems.
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11 Sep 2011 05:05

Alpe d'Huez wrote:It's not necessarily size, though that usually helps. It's going to take someone with very fast hands and great defense, or a pressure fighter with a hard chin to take out the Klitschkos. They need to move forward, get inside, and keep the pace high. Whenever someone has tried to get inside, the Klitschkos tend to just hold or wrestle them around and stall (strangely, hardly anyone complains about the holding). Problem is, the HW division is completely devoid of talent right now it seems.


This is why i dont watch HW fight, its so boring.
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11 Sep 2011 05:12

I know Adamek probably got his *** handed to him but i am hoping not to see any spoilers until I see the fight so unfortunately i can not take part in this thread.
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11 Sep 2011 06:34

Boring!
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11 Sep 2011 09:04

I didn't want to say that, but, well, let me just put it this way: It's not 1970, that's for sure!
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11 Sep 2011 09:50

Susan Westemeyer wrote:Watching the fight now. The size difference is astounding. Hard to see how Klitschko can lose.

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Alpe d'Huez wrote:It's not necessarily size, though that usually helps. <snip>.


indeed.

lets illustrate the point with an example…

vitali is 202 cm high. tomasz is 187 cm high. the difference = 15 cm


...yet, in another heavyweight world championship fight ( 2009), the ‘small’ englishman david haye (191 cm) beat the russian giant nikolai valuev (213 cm). the difference in height was even more pronounced - 22 cm.

i was perplexed watching the slow giant..
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11 Sep 2011 17:09

The Hitch wrote:I know Adamek probably got his *** handed to him but i am hoping not to see any spoilers until I see the fight so unfortunately i can not take part in this thread.
Yes he did....... :S But he at least tried to fight and didnt stand on the a table at a press conference to show everyone his small toe... Good work from adamek he was just too small, amazing that he didnt get knocked down properly though. Good choice from the ref to stop it....

I dont think the heavyweight division is that bad, it isnt a golden age but there have been some good guys in it. Their problem is people only see them when they come up agaisnt the klitschkos and so far they have been making fools out of most of them because wlad and vitali are very good and very big.. Haye adamek and solis are all very good contenders , shame solis tore his knee though he was looking pretty good agaisnt vitali I think he is a very good boxer. Eddie chambers is pretty handy aswell but he is even smaller than adamek, sam peter used to be not bad in his own way untill vitali got a hold of him...There is this helenius fellow coming through aswell, he is very tall and pretty good... I think the klitschko make the heavyweights look worse than they are. Lennox Lewis and tyson hardly had great competition either.
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11 Sep 2011 17:53

...Hard to had been predicted an other way, Vit just proved that all we had known before this one. Great job, anyway.
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11 Sep 2011 18:26

btw, on german RTL there came Rocky IV afterwards. Nice. :D

I agree that it is not really about size, but more about weight and the perfect ratio. That Polish man could take a lot, but it was obvious that each hit (not even talking about full hits) had huge impact on his whole body.
I also think that Vitali played nice all the time, and could have knocked this guy out in the first round after his righthander hit a little bit, or 2nd round at latest.
He wanted to deliver a good and long show for the people, and tried to hurt him as less as possible.

About Haye, I was positively surprised. He didn't just have a big mouth, but also delivered a very good fight. Strong guy.

Valuev, well, saw about 10 fights. It was like watching a man who was unfrozen after 5000 years and was then forced to box.
Anyway, this guy is really too nice to be a fighter and surely he did his best, and earned good money. I wouldn't call that boxing what he did.
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