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17 Nov 2017 23:09

Im halfway serious about Lonzo. Granted I've only watched him 2-3 games, but he has been horrible in all the games I've watched. He has no attitude, he isn't athletic and his shot is atrocious.
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17 Nov 2017 23:31

Valv.Piti wrote:Im halfway serious about Lonzo. Granted I've only watched him 2-3 games, but he has been horrible in all the games I've watched. He has no attitude, he isn't athletic and his shot is atrocious.


I haven't watched a full Lakers game, only highlights and sometimes I'll watch some reports and maybe an odd interview. The TNT guys are the best, imho. They obviously know their basketball and they are very funny. Barkley is probably one of the most honest, straightshooting/straighforward people in US sports and has been that for a while. I like what he says most of the time. His and O'neal's comments on Ball were right now.

Lonzo hasn't impressed me, but again, it's the highlights. He does have an ugly shot and when he's made mistakes, they've been real bad mistakes. It's as if he is extremely lazy or extremely nervous.

He'll have some good games, but I don't see him being the 'next great NBA player.'
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18 Nov 2017 00:51

BullsFan22 wrote:Barkley is probably one of the most honest, straightshooting/straighforward people in US sports and has been that for a while. I like what he says most of the time.


I used to like Barkley for his honesty, but unfortunately, one can be honestly stupid and ignorant, and he frequently is. He has trashed modern sports analytics, saying it’s just something the geeks who couldn’t get girls in high school created to make themselves important. He derided the Warriors as a “jump-shooting team” that would be exposed. When NFL RB Adrian Peterson was revealed to have beaten one of his kids with a stick, Barkley said “every African-American parent in the south” does that.

And his predictions are often embarrassing, as when he said the Celtics would lose to the Warriors and not hold them to 94 points. Sure, everyone makes predictions that turn out to be wrong, and in fact that particular prediction seemed pretty safe, but Barkley makes them so positively, implying that anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot, that he looks like a fool when they don’t turn out. In fact, he's victim to one of the surest indicators of poor sports knowledge (going back to his ignorance of analytics): recency bias. That's frequently on full display during the playoffs, as in 2016, when he predicted OKC would go all the way when they were up 3-1 on the Warriors.
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18 Nov 2017 02:10

Merckx index wrote:
BullsFan22 wrote:Barkley is probably one of the most honest, straightshooting/straighforward people in US sports and has been that for a while. I like what he says most of the time.


I used to like Barkley for his honesty, but unfortunately, one can be honestly stupid and ignorant, and he frequently is. He has trashed modern sports analytics, saying it’s just something the geeks who couldn’t get girls in high school created to make themselves important. He derided the Warriors as a “jump-shooting team” that would be exposed. When NFL RB Adrian Peterson was revealed to have beaten one of his kids with a stick, Barkley said “every African-American parent in the south” does that.

And his predictions are often embarrassing, as when he said the Celtics would lose to the Warriors and not hold them to 94 points. Sure, everyone makes predictions that turn out to be wrong, and in fact that particular prediction seemed pretty safe, but Barkley makes them so positively, implying that anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot, that he looks like a fool when they don’t turn out. In fact, he's victim to one of the surest indicators of poor sports knowledge (going back to his ignorance of analytics): recency bias. That's frequently on full display during the playoffs, as in 2016, when he predicted OKC would go all the way when they were up 3-1 on the Warriors.


Yeah well sometimes he is right but when he is wrong he is spectacularly wrong ! I find the NBA panel show he is part of, pretty painful.
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18 Nov 2017 02:12

Valv.Piti wrote:Im halfway serious about Lonzo. Granted I've only watched him 2-3 games, but he has been horrible in all the games I've watched. He has no attitude, he isn't athletic and his shot is atrocious.


A really good coach could do more with him but he hasn't been consistently bad. He's also had some great games.
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22 Nov 2017 14:15



It's odd to me that player movement and spacing the floor isn't a standard requirement for any NBA offense. I think that Casey should fear for his job or at least feel a bit less secure in his position as head coach.
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23 Nov 2017 20:33

Interesting day of games. The Heat down the high flying Celtics and Oklahoma down the Warriors.
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