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10 May 2016 12:41

Merckx index wrote:The Curry legend grows with a game for the ages...

He didn't start tonight, but entered the game in the middle of the second quarter. He missed his first nine three point attempts, his first shot was actually an air ball, but he seemed to get comfortable in the fourth quarter, scoring ten points. The game went into OT, and he scored 17 more points, more than the entire Portland team, and apparently an all-time NBA record for a player in OT. He finished with 40 points in about 37 minutes, about as much time as he had played total previously this postseason. The plan was to play him about twenty-five minutes, but that went out the window when his backup was ejected just before the end of the first half.

So much for my theory that he would need 2-3 games to get back to speed. The Warriors chances of repeating as champs now look better than they have since he went down in the first postseason game with an ankle injury. They can win this series and move on to the conference finals with a win at home in a couple of days, and without worrying that Curry needs more time to rehab. Also, the Spurs-Thunder series will go at least six games, so the Warriors could get some extended rest if they can close out the series in Game 5.

Cleveland still hasn't lost, could be a repeat of last year's finals match-up, and maybe the Cavs are a better team than they appeared to be during the regular season.

Above I agreed with you that SC would be stale, but he could still help the team. I guess that he is only stale for a few minutes instead of a few games. He is just in 'the zone'.
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13 May 2016 10:15

The matchup that I have been waiting for, OKC-GSW. Durantala, Westbrook, Curry, everybody are ready. This will seriously be a goodie. +110 points every series - I might have to watch this.
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13 May 2016 20:37

Game 6 was weird. I thought Pop would put Manu in the starting line-up for a big (which is what he always does when the Spurs are in trouble in the playoffs). He did do it but only at halftime and the game (and Spurs' season) was already lost by then. Think he didn't do it cause this time it was Duncan he had to pull instead of the other big.

Had not expect the Thunder to beat the Spurs. Especially after game 1.,
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25 May 2016 12:46

D. Green is a dirty player.
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25 May 2016 13:24

Warriors are doneso
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26 May 2016 21:42

Valv.Piti wrote:Warriors are doneso



Close, but I still think they have something in them to make a comeback. It does seem like they are running out of gas a little bit and they are playing a team that's peaking at the right time and has all the momentum in the world. Oh and two of the best players in the league as well.
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31 May 2016 02:14

Valv.Piti wrote:Warriors are doneso

No sir they're not. I also bet 2000 pesos (125 USD) that says that they will win!
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31 May 2016 19:26

Incredible game last night. Really thought the Thunder were going to win when they kept getting offensive rebound early in the 2nd half but once Curry and Thompson got hot they were done. Great great series.

Hopefully the Finals come close. Should be better than last years.
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31 May 2016 21:09

Cavs in 6.

KD to NY for '16-'17.
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01 Jun 2016 17:27

jmdirt wrote:Cavs in 6.

KD to NY for '16-'17.


nope klay thompson ftw

run TMC

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01 Jun 2016 17:42

jmdirt wrote:
KD to NY for '16-'17.


No way. He's looking for a team that can go all the way, right now.

Warriors’ Advantages:
1) home court
2) beat the Cavs in Finals last year
3) beat the Cavs in both regular season meetings, including blow-out in Cleveland
4) much better regular season record

Cavs’ Advantages:
1) two key players who missed the Finals last year are healthy, along with some new players
2) team has looked very strong in the postseason
3) now a very good three point shooting team, to go along with LeBron’s inside terror
4) more rested, not only for Game 1 (five days off vs. two for GS), but has not been stressed or pushed nearly as much in postseason as GS has.

Wild Cards
1) Curry has been inconsistent, spectacular at some times, poor at others. Is he still feeling the effects of ankle, knee and even elbow injuries?
2) OKC seemed to provide a blueprint for beating the Warriors, with length and quickness taking away both long range shots and lanes to the hoop. Can Cleveland do that, and will they try?
3) If a game turns into a three point shootout, can the Cavs hang with the Warriors?

Most wins in a single season plus postseason:

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85 (so far) 2015-16 Warriors
84 1996-97 Bulls
83 2014-15 Warriors
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03 Jun 2016 08:00

Pretty impressive game 1 from the Golden State bench
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03 Jun 2016 12:32

@ Merckx Index.....you are leaving out an advantage that the Warriors have: that they are a better team cohesively than last season evidenced by their NBA record of regular season wins.

They also have the advantage of playing in the Western Conference which is infinitely tougher than the East. It could be argued that 4 top teams from the West (Warriors, Spurs, Thunder, Clippers), if healthy all are capable of winning NBA titles, while the East has only the Cavaliers and just maybe the Heat.

Plus the Cavaliers didn't really dominate the East playoffs. Almost all the games versus the Pistons were competitive, while they actually lost 2 games to the Raptors who can't seriously be considered threats to win an NBA title any time soon. If one thinks that the Cavaliers were impressive in this years playoffs they have to consider their competition.

Now we have game one where Curry and Thompson have below sub-standard games...and the Cavaliers still lose by double digits. it doesn't bode well for the rest of the series when Curry and Thompson inevitably find their shooting strokes. Couple that with the confidence boost that their bench has gained from their game one performance (they probably already had a degree of confidence anyway).
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03 Jun 2016 14:30

@ Angry Lou: Yeah, I agree with just about all of your points. I was just trying to present a balanced view of strengths and weaknesses.

The best teams in the West are definitely better than the best teams in the East, though the overall strength of the East is greater. One thing I like about the NBA is that they try to be fair as much as possible—so playoff seedings are based largely on regular season record, rather than winning a division, and now there’s even talk about taking the teams with the sixteen best records, rather than eight from each conference. That suggests a situation where the two teams in the Finals would not necessarily represent each conference. If the seeding had worked that way this year, we might have seen a Finals with GS and SA, the two teams with the best records.

It could be added that OKC seems to have the personnel and the style to be a particularly difficult matchup for the Warriors. The Cavs actually play somewhat like the Warriors, spreading the floor and now shooting a lot of threes, and since no one beats the Warriors at their own game, that doesn’t bode well for them, either.

ESPN has given the Warriors a 75% chance of winning the series—that was before last night’s game. Based on their odds for a sweep, five game series, etc., that seems to assume about a 60% chance of the Warriors winning any particular game, probably adjusted for home/away. If that’s the case, the odds of the Warriors’ winning the series are now a little over 80%.
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03 Jun 2016 14:58

Decent game last night, the Cavs missed their chance with the cold shooting performance of Curry and Thompson.
At times, Cleveland tries to play too much like Golden State (like other teams) and it just does not work as well.
When the 3 point game goes bad, it looks real bad, teams passing up easier shots to miss a 3, leads to blow outs.

Plus Curry and the Warriors figured out they were over playing Curry so much it was easier for him to drive and the other players to score.
Good to see Barbosa play well and if they want to give Barnes a big contract they better give Livingston a big raise, he seems better in the half court game and has hitting that pull up all year. Those jumpers were soft and smooth. Kerr should have let the second team keep playing, they lost momentum when he took them out in the 4th.

Not sure where Durant can go that has a better chance than OKC. It seems they need a pass only point guard (if such a player still exist) to run the offense. There are only 3-4 teams as good as OKC, so anywhere else may not be better.
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03 Jun 2016 22:25

I have to change my prediction because there is no way that the Cavs will win 4 in a row, so Cavs in 7.

EDIT: JEEHHZZ! Warriors in 5.
EDIT: OK, no close games, who will win the next blow out?!

Players complaining about every call is almost as bad as the myotonia congenita in football (soccer for us USAers).
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13 Jun 2016 03:45

I have grown to dislike Klay Thompson.
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13 Jun 2016 15:32

jmdirt wrote:I have to change my prediction because there is no way that the Cavs will win 4 in a row, so Cavs in 7.

EDIT: JEEHHZZ! Warriors in 5.
EDIT: OK, no close games, who will win the next blow out?!

Players complaining about every call is almost as bad as the myotonia congenita in football (soccer for us USAers).


The refs were ignoring some pretty blatant fouls. LeBron's take down of Green. LeBron's jersey grab of Curry. Both right in front of the ref at halfcourt. By not making these calls they pretty much encourage events to escalate as they did with LeBron and Green. There were calls missed at both ends. I accept that as you advance further in the playoffs that the game becomes more and more physical but the referees have to exert a certain level of control at some point or there will be chaos and the potential that someone may be hurt. A pattern of calls is made to give the players an idea of what is allowed and what is not but Game 4 was no holds-barred-neglect by the entire crew. Even the commentators took note of it.
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14 Jun 2016 13:01

Angliru wrote:
jmdirt wrote:I have to change my prediction because there is no way that the Cavs will win 4 in a row, so Cavs in 7.

EDIT: JEEHHZZ! Warriors in 5.
EDIT: OK, no close games, who will win the next blow out?!

Players complaining about every call is almost as bad as the myotonia congenita in football (soccer for us USAers).


The refs were ignoring some pretty blatant fouls. LeBron's take down of Green. LeBron's jersey grab of Curry. Both right in front of the ref at halfcourt. By not making these calls they pretty much encourage events to escalate as they did with LeBron and Green. There were calls missed at both ends. I accept that as you advance further in the playoffs that the game becomes more and more physical but the referees have to exert a certain level of control at some point or there will be chaos and the potential that someone may be hurt. A pattern of calls is made to give the players an idea of what is allowed and what is not but Game 4 was no holds-barred-neglect by the entire crew. Even the commentators took note of it.

Call consistency sets the tone for game, but the players question every call from call one in every game. I'm surprised that the guy who "hacks a Thompson" hasn't raised his hands and wrinkled his face about the call. I like the way that the finals have been officiated for the most part.
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14 Jun 2016 19:13

jmdirt wrote:
Angliru wrote:
jmdirt wrote:I have to change my prediction because there is no way that the Cavs will win 4 in a row, so Cavs in 7.

EDIT: JEEHHZZ! Warriors in 5.
EDIT: OK, no close games, who will win the next blow out?!

Players complaining about every call is almost as bad as the myotonia congenita in football (soccer for us USAers).


The refs were ignoring some pretty blatant fouls. LeBron's take down of Green. LeBron's jersey grab of Curry. Both right in front of the ref at halfcourt. By not making these calls they pretty much encourage events to escalate as they did with LeBron and Green. There were calls missed at both ends. I accept that as you advance further in the playoffs that the game becomes more and more physical but the referees have to exert a certain level of control at some point or there will be chaos and the potential that someone may be hurt. A pattern of calls is made to give the players an idea of what is allowed and what is not but Game 4 was no holds-barred-neglect by the entire crew. Even the commentators took note of it.

Call consistency sets the tone for game, but the players question every call from call one in every game. I'm surprised that the guy who "hacks a Thompson" hasn't raised his hands and wrinkled his face about the call. I like the way that the finals have been officiated for the most part.


I was speaking specifically about game 5 which was called a lot looser than the previous games. I was just waiting for a brawl to break out as a result of the player frustration. "Letting them play" has its limits. Strangely they continually fell for Varejao's (sp) antics but couldn't bring it upon themselves to call some of the more obvious offenses. Players will bawl about missed calls, even when there was no foul to be called, primarily to save face for having a shot blocked, a missed layup, turning the ball over, etc... Nevertheless these are supposed to be the cream of the crop of NBA referees. I just think that they lost control of the game by letting it become a bit too physical.


Edit: ...I meant to say game 5, not game 4 in my previous post.
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