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Re: U.S. Politics

12 Sep 2017 12:47

....file under whoops, or oh $H!t we hit an iceberg....

Sen. Ted Cruz (or someone with access to his personal social media account) on Monday took a break from his evangelical Bible-thumping, Princess Bride-quoting pastime to “like” a very NSFW video on Twitter.

The 1-minute-and-42-second clip ignited the Internet early Tuesday morning as users marveled at the “family values” poster child tipping his hat to some good, old fashioned porn. Cruz, a veritable finger-wagging conservative who once defended a ban on dildos, did not issue a statement after taking down the video. But Catherine Frazier, his senior communications adviser, took to Twitter shortly after to assure people the “like” was not triggered by her boss’s own hands.

“The offensive tweet posted on @tedcruz account earlier has been removed by staff and reported to Twitter,” Frazier wrote.


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/thanks-for-watching-ted-twitter-account-gleeful-after-sen-cruz-accidently-likes-clip/

....and there are claims this is a set-up.....or maybe not....

‘Imagine this four feet below you’: Ex-roommate says Ted Cruz’s love of ‘mediocre porn’ is nothing new


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/imagine-this-four-feet-below-you-ex-roommate-says-ted-cruzs-love-of-mediocre-porn-is-nothing-new/

.....me I'm leaning to the idea that it really was the Russians that did this, in fact my sources tell me Putin was directly involved in this operation.....

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12 Sep 2017 13:01

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....a sad tale of a sweet innocent from the wilds of Soviet Canuckistan corrupted by the evils of the big city.....really tragic really....

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PK6OH20I8
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12 Sep 2017 13:17

aphronesis wrote:
blutto wrote:


....a sad tale of a sweet innocent from the wilds of Soviet Canuckistan corrupted by the evils of the big city.....really tragic really....

Cheers


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PK6OH20I8


....so are you saying dear Axl is really a Soviet Canuckistanian...?.....would explain why I love his music so much....like the Gunners are the best ever eh.....btw you can really see the ? Mark influence on dear sweet Axl...

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12 Sep 2017 13:32

....so glad this is continuing to get the traction it so richly deserves.....

The social justice warrior charge to purge the United States of all monuments relating in any way to the Confederacy has been rapidly expanding to include the scourge represented by all white people all through history. The Founding Fathers who owned slaves will undoubtedly be the next ones on the block and the list will undoubtedly expand as other deviations from current sensibilities are elaborated. In Baltimore, the world’s oldest memorial to Christopher Columbus was vandalized and it is reported that the snowflake mayor of New York City Bill de Blasio has ordered an inquiry into whether Columbus Circle in Manhattan and its eponymous statue should remain in place. Los Angeles has renamed Columbus Day Indigenous Peoples Day.

When the Columbus statue was vandalized I posted the news story on Facebook with the comment “More sanctimonious leftists having fun, wrecking a historic monument to vent their hatred of everything and everyone that does not fit into their worldview.” It attracted some comments from the usual crowd, including these from two Brits, “So glad this disgusting monument of sick depravity is gone. It’s not ‘lefties’ it’s your white privilege that’s annoyed! I wish disgusting Churchill would get off my UK bank notes too,” and “Hmmm. Columbus was a psychopath who killed, enslaved and raped countless innocent people. He doesn’t deserve to be remembered as anything but a vile and disgusting creature, IMHO.”

Chris clearly did not know what he was getting into when he “discovered” the New World, and what should be done about fellow explorer Amerigo Vespucci, whose name was given to the two continents? What used to be called the Age of Exploration will no doubt be renamed the Age of Exploitation in the textbooks and the levelers will promote the viewpoint that everything indigenous was good and everything that came out of Europe was bad. In fact, they are already saying that at some of our leading universities.

Now, I would suggest that turnabout is fair play so if we are all agreeing that monuments must be destroyed to right historic wrongs, I am interested in making up my own little list based on the things that I disapprove of. As readers of this site are aware, I am a critic of illegal behavior by the United States government, to include torture, targeted assassinations by drone and starting wars without any reason to do so, so that would be a good place to start.

So how do you go after monuments that celebrate war crimes as such memorials don’t really exist in any unambiguous form except possibly hidden in a broom closet at CIA headquarters? Well, for starters, I would go after the presidents who authorized the misdeeds, since, as Harry Truman once put it, “the buck stops here” in the Oval Office. I would look first and foremost at Presidential Libraries and would suggest that all the recent ones be either demolished or shrouded in black tarps like the statue of good old Robert E. Lee in Charlottesville.

Recent Presidential Libraries represent an unhappy compromise where politics, personal commemoration and archival information that is presumed to be both reliable and comprehensive have to coexist. Most Americans would likely be surprised to learn that there are 13 presidential libraries, many of which are attached to museums and supporting foundations, all of which are now operated by public funding. The first such library was founded by Herbert Hoover, but a number of libraries preserving presidential papers were established privately prior to that administration for presidents Washington, the two Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Grant, Hayes, Wilson and Coolidge.


http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/removing-offensive-monuments/

....can hardly wait till they get around to renaming Washington.....anybody got any ideas ?....I mean its tough...like it has to be gender neutral, gluten free, non-dairy, full vegan, race neutral, with no historical references cause history is hopelessly contaminated with bad things, sexual orientation neutral....like even Plain Vanilla has too much cultural baggage....maybe something pronounish....see its tough...

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12 Sep 2017 13:32

I was probably nodding to Alpe and noting that being corrupted, unwittingly selling out was inbuilt to the period. More so now.

@ semper, same w/bdb. now a domesticated radical. the horses were his big progressive gesture. although they're floating congestion pricing for east river bridges again. have to fix the subways then....
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12 Sep 2017 13:53

One of the reported cost-cutting measures Trump is taking on the new Air Force One order is to remove the capability for in-flight refueling. Supposedly they've never used it, so it's being removed from the future planes. Curious to hear the thoughts of Busted or any other pilots on this one.

My first thought was, they ought to keep that since it's the president's plane, and you may need it in some unforeseen emergency situation. I suppose they could always make an emergency landing somewhere if they had to. Still seems like you ought to have that option to refuel mid-air. But I am not a pilot.

http://www.defenseone.com/business/2017/09/searching-1-billion-inside-pentagons-struggle-match-trumps-air-force-one-boast/140852/
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12 Sep 2017 15:55

Mark Hetsgaard;

No more treating climate denial like an honest difference of opinion


The first step toward justice is to call things by their true names. Murder is murder, whether the murderers admit it or not. Punish it as such, or we encourage more of the same.


Question climate science = murder. I'll bet he considers himself to be against fascism.

So, naturally I was perusing the comments and ran across this one;

in the final analysis, we are the ones who support the energy industry and it is our standard of living that will need to change. So contemplate what you can do for the cause:

Personal Actions
End our love affair with the automobile
Ride more trains and buses
Car pool
Walk and bike more
Turn off the air conditioner in the summer and dial the thermostat down in winter
(brilliant as scores in Europe die every summer when it's hot)
Become vegetarians or vegans
Refill plastic bottles with tap water
Discontinue using aluminum cans with and without carbonation
Maximize use of reusable bags and products
Recycle junk mail
Forego fast junk food
Go to “slow food”;
Recycle maximally, especially aluminum cans
Drive and accelerate more slowly
Climb more stairs
Plant more trees
Forego use of spray cans
Ride more trains and buses
Repair, mend and alter as much as possible
Buy solar panels
Compost as much as possible
Last person out of the room turn off the lights
Eat and farm organic
Ride more trains and buses
Fly fewer planes
Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings
Use manual tools instead of power tools
Share more
Use rakes rather than leaf blowers
Decrease use of bottled water and refill plastic bottles with tap water
Maximize reusable bags and products
Push rather than power small mowers
Replace lawns with vegetable gardens
Stop fertilizing and mowing lawns
Compost as much as possible
Minimize use of disposables (Pampers);
Maximize high efficiency LED and solar powered lighting;
Limit endless gadgets
Use motion lighting, where appropriate

Local Government Actions
Reorganize cities, building taller residences with a smaller footprint (the end of suburbia)
Institute a carbon tax
Promote car pooling subsidize and expand mass transit
Expand bike paths
Have shareable (zip) cars
Ban electric outdoor signs;
Eat and farm organic
Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings
Eliminate approximately 50% of all street lighting and office lighting in unoccupied buildings
eliminate “fast junk food”; go to “slow food
replace

Federal Government Actions
Ban gasohol
Rein in the militaries for defense only and outlaw war
Discontinue night baseball
Make electronics, house wares, furniture, etc to be as durable and long-lived as possible
Recycle maximally
Make appliances to be as energy efficient as possible
Discontinue aluminum cans
Ban electric outdoor signs
Maximize solar and wind power;
Change from petroleum based fertilizers to regenerative agriculture
Reverse deforestation, plant more trees
Restrict spray cans
Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings
Promote zero population growth with free condoms and family planning world-wide
End yearly auto model changes;
Proscribe junk mail
Scrap the mission to Mars


https://www.thenation.com/article/climate-denialism-is-literally-killing-us/


Maybe we should all just stop exhaling. Hetsgaard can go first.
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12 Sep 2017 16:59

yeah sounds horrific. how would people cope?

Anyway

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/539460/


I'm especially struck by Clinton talking about how much time was spent on appearance (and she still looked ghoulish--as does Huma), the pervasive sexism and misogyny, etc. Oddly I don't recall her and Tipper chilling with the birkenstock armpit hair set back in the 90s (or any other genres of femininity other than corporate daddy's girl) when they had a pulpit and influence.

Why are all these stereotypes so pervasive and persistent? It's a mystery.


and this

"More than measuring the drapes, Clinton actually bought a house in anticipation of becoming president: In August 2016, she and Bill purchased the one next door to their home in Chappaqua, New York, in part so they could accommodate the large Secret Service presence that would be necessary if she won."
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12 Sep 2017 19:10

Scott SoCal wrote:Mark Hetsgaard;

No more treating climate denial like an honest difference of opinion


The first step toward justice is to call things by their true names. Murder is murder, whether the murderers admit it or not. Punish it as such, or we encourage more of the same.


Question climate science = murder. I'll bet he considers himself to be against fascism.

So, naturally I was perusing the comments and ran across this one;

in the final analysis, we are the ones who support the energy industry and it is our standard of living that will need to change. So contemplate what you can do for the cause:

Personal Actions
End our love affair with the automobile
Ride more trains and buses
Car pool
Walk and bike more
Turn off the air conditioner in the summer and dial the thermostat down in winter
(brilliant as scores in Europe die every summer when it's hot)
Become vegetarians or vegans
Refill plastic bottles with tap water
Discontinue using aluminum cans with and without carbonation
Maximize use of reusable bags and products
Recycle junk mail
Forego fast junk food
Go to “slow food”;
Recycle maximally, especially aluminum cans
Drive and accelerate more slowly
Climb more stairs
Plant more trees
Forego use of spray cans
Ride more trains and buses
Repair, mend and alter as much as possible
Buy solar panels
Compost as much as possible
Last person out of the room turn off the lights
Eat and farm organic
Ride more trains and buses
Fly fewer planes
Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings
Use manual tools instead of power tools
Share more
Use rakes rather than leaf blowers
Decrease use of bottled water and refill plastic bottles with tap water
Maximize reusable bags and products
Push rather than power small mowers
Replace lawns with vegetable gardens
Stop fertilizing and mowing lawns
Compost as much as possible
Minimize use of disposables (Pampers);
Maximize high efficiency LED and solar powered lighting;
Limit endless gadgets
Use motion lighting, where appropriate

Local Government Actions
Reorganize cities, building taller residences with a smaller footprint (the end of suburbia)
Institute a carbon tax
Promote car pooling subsidize and expand mass transit
Expand bike paths
Have shareable (zip) cars
Ban electric outdoor signs;
Eat and farm organic
Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings
Eliminate approximately 50% of all street lighting and office lighting in unoccupied buildings
eliminate “fast junk food”; go to “slow food
replace

Federal Government Actions
Ban gasohol
Rein in the militaries for defense only and outlaw war
Discontinue night baseball
Make electronics, house wares, furniture, etc to be as durable and long-lived as possible
Recycle maximally
Make appliances to be as energy efficient as possible
Discontinue aluminum cans
Ban electric outdoor signs
Maximize solar and wind power;
Change from petroleum based fertilizers to regenerative agriculture
Reverse deforestation, plant more trees
Restrict spray cans
Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings
Promote zero population growth with free condoms and family planning world-wide
End yearly auto model changes;
Proscribe junk mail
Scrap the mission to Mars


https://www.thenation.com/article/climate-denialism-is-literally-killing-us/


Maybe we should all just stop exhaling. Hetsgaard can go first.


Problem denial is a facile response to the incompatability of happy downsizing with the contemporary "way of life."
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12 Sep 2017 20:11

aphronesis wrote:yeah sounds horrific. how would people cope?

Anyway

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/539460/


I'm especially struck by Clinton talking about how much time was spent on appearance (and she still looked ghoulish--as does Huma), the pervasive sexism and misogyny, etc. Oddly I don't recall her and Tipper chilling with the birkenstock armpit hair set back in the 90s (or any other genres of femininity other than corporate daddy's girl) when they had a pulpit and influence.

Why are all these stereotypes so pervasive and persistent? It's a mystery.


and this

"More than measuring the drapes, Clinton actually bought a house in anticipation of becoming president: In August 2016, she and Bill purchased the one next door to their home in Chappaqua, New York, in part so they could accommodate the large Secret Service presence that would be necessary if she won."


....good one.....interesting, and to have this come from one of the media inner circle, doubly interesting....seems to indicate the inner circle may be in the process of tossing the carcass overboard...

....this I found this a bit of off the scale hubris....screams what a total idiot Killbilly was....

While Clinton spent weeks sweating the details of her victory speech, she didn’t so much as look at a concession speech until her aides handed her a draft in the wee hours of November 9


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12 Sep 2017 20:17


of course tim kaine opposes it. I'm not an expert on american private healthcare providers or how the insurance works (exactly, I have a general idea) but what I do know is that having a state funded universal healthcare does not exclude the availability of private practices. If you have insurance you are completely free to use it. So there would be just as many options, just with less people dying as they don't have free access to healthcare.

It's also interesting to see all the 2020 hopefuls support it. Clearly everyone in the know thinks this is a crucial policy for the primaries. Unfortunately for those who thought they were being radical, everyone else did too. However, this could/should force candidates to have detailed plans of how to implement it prior to the campaign. I doubt it though.
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12 Sep 2017 20:19

rhubroma wrote:

Problem denial is a facile response to the incompatability of happy downsizing with the contemporary "way of life."


Yep.

I think we should start in Florida. Right now there's a race to clear debris and restore power to however many millions are without. Yesterday it was 99 degrees F and the humidity was in the 80% range. Maybe we should just, ya know, not re-establish electricity in the State.

Granted it would be "unhappy downsizing" and people would die off at a brisk pace but climate change cultists world-wide would no doubt be thrilled by my idea.

Vegan diet and living under a palm frond lean-to is the sustainable future.

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12 Sep 2017 20:21

@ blutto, I can't even call it hubris in the classical sense. There is that aspect of arrogance but every quote from her indicates someone fundamentally out of touch for decades now.
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12 Sep 2017 20:36

aphronesis wrote:@ blutto, I can't even call it hubris in the classical sense. There is that aspect of arrogance but every quote from her indicates someone fundamentally out of touch for decades now.


Imagine her circle of "friends." Who on earth tells her the truth? Nobody... so she makes up her own reality.

This has been going on since the Arkansas days.
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12 Sep 2017 21:14

Scott SoCal wrote:
rhubroma wrote:

Problem denial is a facile response to the incompatability of happy downsizing with the contemporary "way of life."


Yep.

I think we should start in Florida. Right now there's a race to clear debris and restore power to however many millions are without. Yesterday it was 99 degrees F and the humidity was in the 80% range. Maybe we should just, ya know, not re-establish electricity in the State.

Granted it would be "unhappy downsizing" and people would die off at a brisk pace but climate change cultists world-wide would no doubt be thrilled by my idea.

Vegan diet and living under a palm frond lean-to is the sustainable future.

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Unhappy downsizing will inevitably be the result of eschewing happy downsizing. But I'm not invested in the outcome.
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12 Sep 2017 21:45

I think they call it scarcity and austerity. Hits the public. No check on consumption/growth models. That's a way of life.
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12 Sep 2017 21:46

aphronesis wrote:@ blutto, I can't even call it hubris in the classical sense. There is that aspect of arrogance but every quote from her indicates someone fundamentally out of touch for decades now.


....yeah you're right, more correctly full bore arrogance....I just like trotting out hubris whenever I can, like its my favourite sin eh....love watching it do its magic....

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12 Sep 2017 22:31

Scott SoCal wrote:
Beech Mtn wrote:So. Did Hillary attend the 9/11 memorial service again this year? I didn't see anything on the news about her passing out again.


I'll direct you to both the article and the comments section..... which is pure comedy.

CLINTON BLAMES COMEY, RUSSIA, WIKILEAKS, FACEBOOK, FAKE NEWS, VOTER ID LAWS, SEXISM, AND MISOGYNY FOR LOSING
‘And let’s not forget sexism and misogyny, which are endemic to our society’


https://news.grabien.com/story-two-minutes-clinton-blames-comey-russia-wikileaks-facebook-v

Here's a quick peek:

CoomassieBlue SonoranSeeker • 5 hours ago
She literally **** her pants on the campaign trail, and then was tossed into her medical van that follows her everywhere. If this were 80 years ago, whatever condition she has might have slipped through the public eye (how FDR masked his polio). Maybe if she was honest people would feel some sympathy for this vile woman, but no, everything has to be a secret with her.

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12 Sep 2017 22:42

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This picture causes me some issues. I told ole girl to watch the seat.


When I first looked at this photo I thought... "can't be Hillary," then I saw the death grip on the stair rail.

The comments section of that article will provide belly laughs.
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