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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 11:59

....you don't what to think for good reason...see below....

+ Here’s an excerpt from the best novel ever written about American politics, Joseph Heller’s Good as Gold, which should be required reading for adolescent, of whatever age, thinking of majoring in political “science” or political journalism. In this scene, Gold is being interviewed for a post in the new presidential Administration…


“What would I have to do?”

“Anything you want, as long as it’s everything we tell you to say and do in support of our policies, whether you agree with them or not. You’ll have complete freedom.”
Gold was confused. He said delicately, “I can’t be bought, Ralph.”

“We wouldn’t want you if you could be, Bruce,” Ralph responded. “This President doesn’t want yes-men. What we want are independent men of integrity who will agree with all our decisions after we make them.”

“Wouldn’t I have to know anything?”

“Absolutely not,” Ralph answered, and appeared astounded that Gold even should ask. “In government, Bruce, experience doesn’t count and knowledge isn’t important. If there’s one lesson of value to be learned from the past, Bruce, it’s to grab what you want when the chance comes to get it.”

Gold asked with distress, “Is that good for the world?”

“Nothing’s good for the world, Bruce. I thought you knew that.”


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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:01

Bustedknuckle wrote:Funny..yup, adolf does need a foil..can't wait for his twit-er, from the twit.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/gonzalo-curiel-donald-trump


Hyped up non-story I reckon. Donnie is too busy planning world war 3 with the little fat kid to be worrying about a couple of Mexicans...
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:03

....file under, oh $h!t, I thought we burned all that stuff....

+ Newly unearthed documents at the UN disclose that the Allies knew for at least two years prior to the D-Day Invasion about the Nazi’s extermination program, including the location of many of the death camps and the scope of the genocide taking place. They went to extraordinary lengths to keep these escalating atrocities a tightly held secret. So much for the “Good” War…


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:07

....ouch !....

+ Easter Day tweet from Paul Ryan, who wants to kick 24 million off of their minimal health care and end all social welfare programs for the poor: “Diverse though we may be, Christians around the world are united in our shared belief that Jesus rose from the dead.” But Paul, what if Jesus didn’t so much “rise from the dead,” as have his bones excavated to make room for another Israeli settlement?


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:08

....ouch part deux...

+ The home insurance market is breaking down because of coastal flooding from climate change. These are largely rich people’s homes, who enjoy plump portfolios fattened by fossil fuel stocks. So there is some karma here as their beachfront dreams submerge…


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:12

....file under, uhhh, gawd knows what...that being said this does have to be filed.....

+ Benedictine College, a small outpost of learning on the Kansas prairie, banned the practice of yoga on campus citing the breathing routines and body-posturing as a form of “Hindu mysticism.” If they really wanted to do some good the Benedictines (who make the best beer of any of the monastic orders) should ban yoga (which in the US has nothing to do with Hinduism) as a statement against New Age Capitalism run amok…Of course, the ban will only make the noisome practice morally alluring
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:19

....file under, you just can't make $h!t like this up....

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John Schmidt III is a decorated member of a Navy SEAL team, which means he’s probably killed and tortured people in distant lands while dressed in tight-fitting Ninja gear. The highly-decorated Schmidt is now under investigation for appearing in 29 porn films–including the instant classic “Strippers Come Home Horny from the Club”– under the sobriquet of “Jay Voom.” The Navy is trying to determine whether Schmidt received proper clearance for “outside work.” The whole affair gives new meaning to “insertion team.”


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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:21

....file under cultural studies...

+ Silver lining Dept. The best rock ‘n roll has always been made during times of political lunacy.

+ Where’s the great literature of the 21st century? someone asked. Oh, it’s out there, but you’ll have to file a FOIA with the NSA to find it and hire Susan Rice to unmask the names of the writer and characters


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:23

....and finally...file under welcome to Merikah....

+ So I got an angry complaint about my “Love at First Strike” column last week that was different from the usual complaints: 1. it’s ******; 2. it’s too long; 3. it’s unreadable, et al. This person said that it was incumbent upon me to “link to the definitions of words that they were unfamiliar with,” starting with “Electra,” as in my description of Ivanka being “our Park Avenue Electra,” which this complainant believed to be a kind of car and not a slasher-princess with a daddy complex in the greatest cycle of plays ever written
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:34

@Blutto... Heller: Good 'un. Oh if only it weren't so true...

Need a revolution...the Yanks with all their guns, go nuts and tear the place down...
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:40

blutto wrote:....file under, uhhh, gawd knows what...that being said this does have to be filed.....

+ Benedictine College, a small outpost of learning on the Kansas prairie, banned the practice of yoga on campus citing the breathing routines and body-posturing as a form of “Hindu mysticism.” If they really wanted to do some good the Benedictines (who make the best beer of any of the monastic orders) should ban yoga (which in the US has nothing to do with Hinduism) as a statement against New Age Capitalism run amok…Of course, the ban will only make the noisome practice morally alluring
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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Benedictine fascists.

Nowt wrong with a bit of hippy new-age right-on yoga.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:47

blutto wrote:....ah, are we finally seeing some real light on the election hacking thingee....

An article in the Guardian last week provides more confirmation that John Brennan was the American progenitor of political espionage aimed at defeating Donald Trump. One side did collude with foreign powers to tip the election — Hillary’s.

Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Brennan teamed up with British spies and Estonian spies to cripple Trump’s candidacy. He used their phony intelligence as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump, which led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice, among other Hillary supporters, to spy on Trump and his people.

John Brennan’s CIA operated like a branch office of the Hillary campaign, leaking out mentions of this bogus investigation to the press in the hopes of inflicting maximum political damage on Trump. An official in the intelligence community tells TAS that Brennan’s retinue of political radicals didn’t even bother to hide their activism, decorating offices with “Hillary for president cups” and other campaign paraphernalia.


A supporter of the American Communist Party at the height of the Cold War, Brennan brought into the CIA a raft of subversives and gave them plum positions from which to gather and leak political espionage on Trump. He bastardized standards so that these left-wing activists could burrow in and take career positions. Under the patina of that phony professionalism, they could then present their politicized judgments as “non-partisan.”

The Guardian story is written in a style designed to flatter its sources (they are cast as high-minded whistleblowers), but the upshot of it is devastating for them, nonetheless, and explains why all the criminal leaks against Trump first originated in the British press. According to the story, Brennan got his anti-Trump tips primarily from British spies but also Estonian spies and others. The story confirms that the seed of the espionage into Trump was planted by Estonia. The BBC’s Paul Wood reported last year that the intelligence agency of an unnamed Baltic State had tipped Brennan off in April 2016 to a conversation purporting to show that the Kremlin was funneling cash into the Trump campaign
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https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/

....so there you have it, the real truth, not some of that fake truth you get at WalMart ( which is Shillary's favourite store don't you know... ).....now off with the traitors' heads , or up against the wall, or something, and no last cigarette because that is bad for your health ( but maybe a latte to go, but only as long as its fair trade and non-gmo )....

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Let's not forget Hillary was grated access to classified intelligence after she left the State Dept... and it wasn't only her but selected staff as well.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 12:52

blutto wrote:....ouch part deux...

+ The home insurance market is breaking down because of coastal flooding from climate change. These are largely rich people’s homes, who enjoy plump portfolios fattened by fossil fuel stocks. So there is some karma here as their beachfront dreams submerge…


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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This isn't true. Home insurance doesn't cover damage from floods.

Edit; I went to the Times article linked it the linked post. It talks about NFIP which is FEMA. That actually is flood insurance but it is Federal Government so nothing is breaking down. I really enjoyed this part;

Private insurers including Farmers, Allstate and 68 other companies also sell and administer the policy on the government’s behalf — and take a sizable cut of the premium. If floods do come, though, it’s still the government that’s on the hook.


NFIP doesn't have a sales force. They don't have an accounting department... very little administration. Why? Well, the agreement is to use private insurers for access to their book of business and their infrastructure (billing, accounting, accounts receivables, etc). But apparently this should all be done for free - according to The NY Times.

One can only wonder what their ad rates are these days.

And as a side note, the commission rate NFIP pays private insurers is in line with what private insurers pay their own sales force to sell and service property insurance policies.
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21 Apr 2017 13:02

From Blutto's link;

+ Democrats are in a state of collective ecstasy over the prospects for taking Georgia’s 6th congressional district, Newt’s old seat, with a candidate named Jon Ossoff who doesn’t live in the district and whose two campaign planks are: 1. cutting federal spending and 2. being tough on National Security. Ossoff’s Republican opponent baiting the naive interloper into announcing he supported Trump’s cruise missile strike on Syria and his MOAB bombing of Afghan peasants. In the end, the candidate who is a male version of Hillary got about the same share of votes as Hillary did in the same district in 2016. Who needs Republicans when you’ve got Democrats like this?


Plus he's a white guy running against a Repub candidate who's...... a woman.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 13:16

Scott SoCal wrote:
blutto wrote:....ouch part deux...

+ The home insurance market is breaking down because of coastal flooding from climate change. These are largely rich people’s homes, who enjoy plump portfolios fattened by fossil fuel stocks. So there is some karma here as their beachfront dreams submerge…


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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This isn't true. Home insurance doesn't cover damage from floods.


I know nuffing, but Google says home insurance does cover floods...largely subsidized by the fed and state govs, and the system is breaking down because of climate change.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 13:23

Dan2016 wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
blutto wrote:....ouch part deux...

+ The home insurance market is breaking down because of coastal flooding from climate change. These are largely rich people’s homes, who enjoy plump portfolios fattened by fossil fuel stocks. So there is some karma here as their beachfront dreams submerge…


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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This isn't true. Home insurance doesn't cover damage from floods.


I know nuffing, but Google says home insurance does cover floods...largely subsidized by the fed and state govs, and the system is breaking down because of climate change.


Google is wrong.

Flood has a specific definition wrt insurance. Table water (water reaching the ground before it enters your home) that rises to a level to enter your home is not covered by homeowners insurance. That is the definition of a flood no matter how it happens.... a rising river, a storm drain in the street that's clogged, a broken water main line.... doesn't matter how.

If water is trying to escape your home from a sudden discharge most comprehensive home policies will cover that.

The system is not breaking down anymore or less than anything other Federal program.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 14:04

blutto wrote:....file under, you just can't make $h!t like this up....

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John Schmidt III is a decorated member of a Navy SEAL team, which means he’s probably killed and tortured people in distant lands while dressed in tight-fitting Ninja gear. The highly-decorated Schmidt is now under investigation for appearing in 29 porn films–including the instant classic “Strippers Come Home Horny from the Club”– under the sobriquet of “Jay Voom.” The Navy is trying to determine whether Schmidt received proper clearance for “outside work.” The whole affair gives new meaning to “insertion team.”


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Most of his "films" was done with his roided out wife. He also looks a bit roided up. No doubt they spend most of the time under a heat lamp somewhere.

She has enough silicone to where she will never have any trouble floating.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 14:04

Scott SoCal wrote:
Dan2016 wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
blutto wrote:....ouch part deux...

+ The home insurance market is breaking down because of coastal flooding from climate change. These are largely rich people’s homes, who enjoy plump portfolios fattened by fossil fuel stocks. So there is some karma here as their beachfront dreams submerge…


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/roaming-charges-dude-wheres-my-war/

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This isn't true. Home insurance doesn't cover damage from floods.


I know nuffing, but Google says home insurance does cover floods...largely subsidized by the fed and state govs, and the system is breaking down because of climate change.


Google is wrong.

Flood has a specific definition wrt insurance. Table water (water reaching the ground before it enters your home) that rises to a level to enter your home is not covered by homeowners insurance. That is the definition of a flood no matter how it happens.... a rising river, a storm drain in the street that's clogged, a broken water main line.... doesn't matter how.

If water is trying to escape your home from a sudden discharge most comprehensive home policies will cover that.

The system is not breaking down anymore or less than anything other Federal program.


I've just asked Goggle again and he's confused...is this not home insurance for natural flooding? It's coastal flood insurance that's relevant here, as per Counterpunch above, not any other type of flooding...

http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/global_warming/Overwhelming-Risk-Full-Report.pdf (2013 report)

In the face of increasingly unmanageable risks, many private insurers have left the coastal insurance market. The National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP) is now practically the sole provider of flood insurance for home owners and small businesses nationwide. To ensure widespread coverage against flooding and storm damages at an affordable cost, the federal government and many state governments have established taxpayer-backed subsidized insurance options.


And, cut from the conclusion, it sounds problematic (or ''breaking down'' to coin the phrase)...

The National Flood Insurance Program is already more than $20 billion in the red because of its flawed structure of rates, risks, and incentives, and is becoming more financially compromised due to an uptick in extreme weather events...
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21 Apr 2017 14:34

If the Democratic party, or any Democrats period (or "liberals" or "progressives" for that matter) are trying to hang their hat, or think they have real leverage against Trump on the entire hacking the election thing, they are doomed.

I'm not an insurance agent, but believe Scott is correct. When you buy a home, your homeowners insurance does not cover most natural disasters, exceptions are things like the tree in your back yard falling onto your roof in a wind storm. For most natural disasters, like coastal flooding, you need extra coverage. If you go to Florida for example, there's all kinds of extra insurance along these lines, because of the extreme weather. Insurance against hurricanes for example is a very specific (and expensive) insurance.
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Re: U.S. Politics

21 Apr 2017 14:57

Dan2016 wrote:
I've just asked Goggle again and he's confused...is this not home insurance for natural flooding? It's coastal flood insurance that's relevant here, as per Counterpunch above, not any other type of flooding...

http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/global_warming/Overwhelming-Risk-Full-Report.pdf (2013 report)

In the face of increasingly unmanageable risks, many private insurers have left the coastal insurance market. The National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP) is now practically the sole provider of flood insurance for home owners and small businesses nationwide. To ensure widespread coverage against flooding and storm damages at an affordable cost, the federal government and many state governments have established taxpayer-backed subsidized insurance options.


And, cut from the conclusion, it sounds problematic (or ''breaking down'' to coin the phrase)...

The National Flood Insurance Program is already more than $20 billion in the red because of its flawed structure of rates, risks, and incentives, and is becoming more financially compromised due to an uptick in extreme weather events...


So most homeowners (hazard insurance) policies in the US specifically exclude Flood as a specific cause of loss. NFIP is in fact part of FEMA... which is part of the Federal Gubmint. NFIP doesn't differentiate between coastal flooding and a clogged storm drain if there's a loss. They do rate differently for risk. There's no such thing as "coastal flood insurance" or "Mississippi River Delta flood insurance." There's just flood insurance that covers a specific cause of loss.

If NFIP is $20 billion in the red, so what? Congress will allocate more money and, voila, problem solved.
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