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27 Apr 2016 08:41

for some time i have been asking god.......what thoughts they would wish

to express on this platform........so far.....no response

maybe? i should pm irondan/maxiton

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Re: pm

27 Apr 2016 18:48

ebandit wrote:for some time i have been asking god.......what thoughts they would wish

to express on this platform........so far.....no response

maybe? i should pm irondan/maxiton

Mark L


The void loves to hear what's on your mind though. You should get yourself some beads.
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04 May 2016 19:29

Wow, long thread. Yeah, I believe in God ever since I was a child a I got more practical since my early twenties. I am a catholic ( greek) in a country with a large majority of orthodox people. Anyway, while I am 100 % God exists (based on my life experience so far and not only) I would not be surprised to learn that They are some sort of unexplainable form of life, at least for our curent knowledge. I say our current knowledge because we don't know s--t about this universe. We walked on the Moon? Ha ha, it's like a bee walking a mile around it's hive and thinks that's the whole world. And Enoch said some crazy stuff a few thousand years ago, things that were confirmed by science just recently. No problem with those who don't believe though.
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05 May 2016 23:09

....just ran across this...may have been posted, if so, whoops...

One of my favorite quotes of all time is “God created man in His image and man returned Him the favor“. This aphorism is so good that it was attributed to Mark Twain, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, George Bernard Shaw, Bertrand Russel, Frank Wedekind and Voltaire. I think that this sentence contains the best overall summary of what Christianity is in the 21st century.


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09 May 2016 22:14

Maybe the best research into God is science, I'm thinking quantum theory and neuroscience at this point because they sure sound like ancient mystics. Maybe a man in a diaper can help them understand their quest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weXKuURMgMs
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08 Jun 2016 18:38

I'm sure I've said this before but I'll say it again 'cause I really couldn't be less concerned what you think of me. Mystics are concerned with their own self study, the interior of being in the world. The Freemasons (mystics at their best, corrupt a$$holes as it stands ) have 33 degrees (Scottish rite) - the Germans didn't invent degrees, btw - and Jesus began his ministry at 33. Coincidence? The human spine has 33 vertebrae, from balls or vag. to brains. Lead (ignorance) to gold (enlightenment). Humans have always been obsessed with making the unconscious (night) conscious (day). Just a thought.

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08 Jun 2016 19:58

Break it down;
The DNA Journey
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08 Jun 2016 21:53

I swear that every exam I'm a practicing agnost, because I don't **** know the answer to the question.
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So why questions? If no answers?
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28 Dec 2016 03:23

McLovin wrote:Wow, long thread. Yeah, I believe in God ever since I was a child a I got more practical since my early twenties. I am a catholic ( greek) in a country with a large majority of orthodox people. Anyway, while I am 100 % God exists (based on my life experience so far and not only) I would not be surprised to learn that They are some sort of unexplainable form of life, at least for our curent knowledge. I say our current knowledge because we don't know s--t about this universe. We walked on the Moon? Ha ha, it's like a bee walking a mile around it's hive and thinks that's the whole world. And Enoch said some crazy stuff a few thousand years ago, things that were confirmed by science just recently. No problem with those who don't believe though.
There's a huge void between believing and not believing.
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09 Jan 2017 01:30

True visionary genius.
The Coming Floods: Calling the Church to Oneness with Christ Amidst Rising Deception
https://www.amazon.ca/Coming-Floods-Calling-Oneness-Deception/dp/1933148640/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1483925107&sr=8-4&keywords=jason+w+moore

As we approach the end of the age, floods of trouble, fear and deception will come in our world to test the faith of all who believe. However, amidst the darkness, God will be working wonders among those whose hearts are fully His. This book is a call to higher ground in the Spirit, to a place of personal oneness with Christ. Jason describes in detail a number of prophetic experiences God has given him concerning the future of the church, and then provides a sound biblical basis for this urgent message from the heart of God.
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Re: Research on Belief in God

10 Jan 2017 22:47

This is worth watching. Some of it (the Horus parallels) are pretty innacurate, from what I can glean, but the astrology stuff is flat out amazing. And ultimately kind of hilarious.

https://youtu.be/88GTUXvp-50
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Re: Research on Belief in God

11 Jan 2017 06:07

Can anyone please let me know the updated information of that research?
I wish I could know that!!
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Re: Research on Belief in God

11 Jan 2017 11:16

red_flanders wrote:This is worth watching. Some of it (the Horus parallels) are pretty innacurate, from what I can glean, but the astrology stuff is flat out amazing. And ultimately kind of hilarious.

https://youtu.be/88GTUXvp-50


The entire video is full of inaccuracies, not just the bit about Horus. If you know that the Horus parallels are very fanciful, you shouldn't believe the other stuff that's being said here, unless you've properly researched it yourself and found better sources confirming it. The internet is full of these types of quasi-conspiracy videos about Jesus actually being completely mythological and just another incarnation of some common mythological pattern, but this type of theory isn't taken serious by actual academic historians and theologians at all, to my knowledge. The comparative mythology stuff and the idea that Jesus is a completely mythological figure with (almost) no base in history has all been proposed by actual historians/biblical scholars in the 19th century and it had some adherence until the beginning of the 20th century, but nowadays it's been thoroughly tested and the hypothesis is found to be contrary to evidence. The 'Christ myth theory' is considered fringe thing nowadays in academia. (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory)

Just a random point about the astrology; the video bases a lot on Jesus being born on 25th of December, but the Bible doesn't suggest Jesus was born on the 25th of December at all. I think the first mention of Jesus being born on that date is like in the 3rd century or something.

To be honest, I didn't really bother to watch the rest of the video after the cliche inaccurate comparative mythology and the apparent ignorance about where the 25th of December date comes from.
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Re: Research on Belief in God

11 Jan 2017 14:24

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:
red_flanders wrote:This is worth watching. Some of it (the Horus parallels) are pretty innacurate, from what I can glean, but the astrology stuff is flat out amazing. And ultimately kind of hilarious.

https://youtu.be/88GTUXvp-50


The entire video is full of inaccuracies, not just the bit about Horus. If you know that the Horus parallels are very fanciful, you shouldn't believe the other stuff that's being said here, unless you've properly researched it yourself and found better sources confirming it. The internet is full of these types of quasi-conspiracy videos about Jesus actually being completely mythological and just another incarnation of some common mythological pattern, but this type of theory isn't taken serious by actual academic historians and theologians at all, to my knowledge. The comparative mythology stuff and the idea that Jesus is a completely mythological figure with (almost) no base in history has all been proposed by actual historians/biblical scholars in the 19th century and it had some adherence until the beginning of the 20th century, but nowadays it's been thoroughly tested and the hypothesis is found to be contrary to evidence. The 'Christ myth theory' is considered fringe thing nowadays in academia. (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory)

Just a random point about the astrology; the video bases a lot on Jesus being born on 25th of December, but the Bible doesn't suggest Jesus was born on the 25th of December at all. I think the first mention of Jesus being born on that date is like in the 3rd century or something.

To be honest, I didn't really bother to watch the rest of the video after the cliche inaccurate comparative mythology and the apparent ignorance about where the 25th of December date comes from.


Don't quote me on it because I'm going off memory. I think the Jews figured out Jesus was born some time around September. It definitely wasn't December 25th. There's a way to figure out his birth using the Jewish calendar. I'd have to look it up again to remember the particulars.
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11 Jan 2017 17:09

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:
red_flanders wrote:This is worth watching. Some of it (the Horus parallels) are pretty innacurate, from what I can glean, but the astrology stuff is flat out amazing. And ultimately kind of hilarious.

https://youtu.be/88GTUXvp-50


The entire video is full of inaccuracies, not just the bit about Horus. If you know that the Horus parallels are very fanciful, you shouldn't believe the other stuff that's being said here, unless you've properly researched it yourself and found better sources confirming it. The internet is full of these types of quasi-conspiracy videos about Jesus actually being completely mythological and just another incarnation of some common mythological pattern, but this type of theory isn't taken serious by actual academic historians and theologians at all, to my knowledge. The comparative mythology stuff and the idea that Jesus is a completely mythological figure with (almost) no base in history has all been proposed by actual historians/biblical scholars in the 19th century and it had some adherence until the beginning of the 20th century, but nowadays it's been thoroughly tested and the hypothesis is found to be contrary to evidence. The 'Christ myth theory' is considered fringe thing nowadays in academia. (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory)

Just a random point about the astrology; the video bases a lot on Jesus being born on 25th of December, but the Bible doesn't suggest Jesus was born on the 25th of December at all. I think the first mention of Jesus being born on that date is like in the 3rd century or something.

To be honest, I didn't really bother to watch the rest of the video after the cliche inaccurate comparative mythology and the apparent ignorance about where the 25th of December date comes from.


You should watch the rest, the astrology bit is interesting. I know it's not going to matter to you, but it's interesting. I don't think it's any kind of proof that Jesus is totally mythological, but certainly it shows clear parallels with astrological phenomena. I find it hard to believe that what we have in the gospels is some kind of pure, clean record of what actually happened. Well actually I don't remotely believe it.

No one knows when Jesus was born. There are various theories with scant evidence one way or another. As you well know the original books were written decades after his death, if not over a century in some cases. This is literally a couple of generations at least of oral history later. Personally I'm not going to run my life on the verbatim of books written this way in the bronze age after the story had been handed down hundreds if not thousands of times.

I wish religious folks were as critical of evidence of what's in the sacred texts as they are of what's on the internet. We'd all be a lot better off.
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Re: Research on Belief in God

12 Jan 2017 17:56

red_flanders wrote:
Maaaaaaaarten wrote:
red_flanders wrote:This is worth watching. Some of it (the Horus parallels) are pretty innacurate, from what I can glean, but the astrology stuff is flat out amazing. And ultimately kind of hilarious.

https://youtu.be/88GTUXvp-50


The entire video is full of inaccuracies, not just the bit about Horus. If you know that the Horus parallels are very fanciful, you shouldn't believe the other stuff that's being said here, unless you've properly researched it yourself and found better sources confirming it. The internet is full of these types of quasi-conspiracy videos about Jesus actually being completely mythological and just another incarnation of some common mythological pattern, but this type of theory isn't taken serious by actual academic historians and theologians at all, to my knowledge. The comparative mythology stuff and the idea that Jesus is a completely mythological figure with (almost) no base in history has all been proposed by actual historians/biblical scholars in the 19th century and it had some adherence until the beginning of the 20th century, but nowadays it's been thoroughly tested and the hypothesis is found to be contrary to evidence. The 'Christ myth theory' is considered fringe thing nowadays in academia. (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory)

Just a random point about the astrology; the video bases a lot on Jesus being born on 25th of December, but the Bible doesn't suggest Jesus was born on the 25th of December at all. I think the first mention of Jesus being born on that date is like in the 3rd century or something.

To be honest, I didn't really bother to watch the rest of the video after the cliche inaccurate comparative mythology and the apparent ignorance about where the 25th of December date comes from.


You should watch the rest, the astrology bit is interesting. I know it's not going to matter to you, but it's interesting. I don't think it's any kind of proof that Jesus is totally mythological, but certainly it shows clear parallels with astrological phenomena. I find it hard to believe that what we have in the gospels is some kind of pure, clean record of what actually happened. Well actually I don't remotely believe it.

No one knows when Jesus was born. There are various theories with scant evidence one way or another. As you well know the original books were written decades after his death, if not over a century in some cases. This is literally a couple of generations at least of oral history later. Personally I'm not going to run my life on the verbatim of books written this way in the bronze age after the story had been handed down hundreds if not thousands of times.

I wish religious folks were as critical of evidence of what's in the sacred texts as they are of what's on the internet. We'd all be a lot better off.


The gospels and the epistles were written by contemporaries of Jesus. It wasn't an oral tradition passed down through the centuries. It was a written tradition passed down through the centuries.
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Re: pm

09 Jul 2017 11:52

ebandit wrote:for some time i have been asking god.......what thoughts they would wish

to express on this platform........so far.....no response

maybe? i should pm irondan/maxiton

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Off topic, but how come on CN Forums the word ' express ' always automatically has a link to that random website?
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Sounds like you have some spamware on your pc.
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