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20 Nov 2017 20:33

OK, cupcake week is over so now its back to real football for those who scheduled a "bye".

Baker Mayfield: Stupid, but who cares. He isn't the first 20 something to grab his crotch in public. If it wouldn't have been caught on camera it would be no big deal. I know we live in an overly sensitive society*, but football is a barbarian throwback, yet we still expect civility from these kids who are doing battle.

*On the surface anyway...

EDIT: The KU gesture, while less lewd, was just as unsporting.
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21 Nov 2017 13:25

It looked liked Mayfield was a tad bit upset that the Jayhawk captains didn't want to shake hands with him at the coin toss. So now Riley says Mayfield won't start against WV and he doesn't want to say when Mayfield would enter the game (probably after the offense has it's first 3 & out. Lol).

Hey...but things could be worse in college football land; how about being fired on your birthday:

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/19/16676552/ucla-jim-mora-fired-on-his-birthday
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21 Nov 2017 14:11

jmdirt wrote:OK, cupcake week is over so now its back to real football for those who scheduled a "bye".

Baker Mayfield: Stupid, but who cares. He isn't the first 20 something to grab his crotch in public. If it wouldn't have been caught on camera it would be no big deal. I know we live in an overly sensitive society*, but football is a barbarian throwback, yet we still expect civility from these kids who are doing battle.

*On the surface anyway...

EDIT: The KU gesture, while less lewd, was just as unsporting.
Heh, that reminds me of the US Navy pilots who drew a giant penis in the sky with their jet recently, apparently some puritanical parents flipped out and complained to the Navy. While juvenile I think it's hilarious, glad our military are keeping their maneuvering skills in tip-top shape.

Okay, back to football talk...

It's rivalry week this week, that should be worth watching. The Apple Cup should be good, both WA State teams are good this year. And the Civil War here in Eugene this year, well, I feel sorry for the Beavers. They've managed to win only one game this whole season, think it was against some community college team. So I'll be rooting for the Beavs, they need all the support they can get.
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25 Nov 2017 18:41

With the weather being all cold and dreary outside it's a nice day to stay in and watch some college football. On that note...

Does everyone here understand the new-ish playoff system? (I know, it's the third year it's being officially implemented, but I'm just getting around to reading up on it. It's a head-scratcher.) I'm not sure it's much better than the old BCS, but what I do know is that the Rose Bowl not being played by the Pac-12 champ this year sucks.

A lot (as far as the Pac-12 is concerned) is hanging on today's Apple Cup - if the Huskies win, well, they don't stand to win much of anything except for bragging rights because then Stanford will be the Pac-12 North champ who will go to the Pac-12 championship game. If the Cougs win they will be the Pac-12 North champs who will then go the Pac-12 Championship game against USC. (Nothing against Stanford, but I think I'd prefer for the Cougs to win today just so that we have one PacNW team in the Pac-12 championship game.)

Probably the most interesting game today will be Auburn v. Alabama... they kinda don't like each other, and I think it would be sweet for Bama to lose at least one game this season. So, go Auburn!

On a completely different note - Chip Kelly to UCLA, it's amazing how how head coaches are able to switch from the NFL to the NCAA (and back and forth) like that.
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26 Nov 2017 00:12

BAMA GOES DOWN!!!

Auburn stuck it to Bama 26 - 14! The Tigers are on fire beating two #1's in the last three weeks! And with Miami's loss to Pitt this is sure to flip the CFP upside down. One thing is certain: hello Auburn & Wisconsin (who destroyed Minn earlier today) to the top 4, and both control their destination here on out with conference title games.

And who was feeling sorry for Wisconsin that they being shafted for their undefeated record?
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26 Nov 2017 00:26

Nomad wrote:BAMA GOES DOWN!!!

Auburn stuck it to Bama 26 - 14! The Tigers are on fire beating two #1's in the last three weeks! And with Miami's loss to Pitt this is sure to flip the CFP upside down. One thing is certain: hello Auburn & Wisconsin (who destroyed Minn earlier today) to the top 4, and both control their destination here on out with conference title games.

And who was feeling sorry for Wisconsin that they being shafted for their undefeated record?
This is so AWESOME! (Hope the kids/fans behave themselves and don't burn the campus down, there will be a whole lotta celebrating going on in Auburn tonight.)

I'm watching the Civil War next, it'll be such a snooze-fest compared to the Iron Bowl. Ducks by at least 20.

As soon as the Apple Cup starts I'll be switching to it, the Cougs have everything to gain so it should hopefully be a nail biter of a game. Have no idea who will win, it's too close to call.
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26 Nov 2017 00:42

Nomad wrote:BAMA GOES DOWN!!!

Auburn stuck it to Bama 26 - 14! The Tigers are on fire beating two #1's in the last three weeks! And with Miami's loss to Pitt this is sure to flip the CFP upside down. One thing is certain: hello Auburn & Wisconsin (who destroyed Minn earlier today) to the top 4, and both control their destination here on out with conference title games.

And who was feeling sorry for Wisconsin that they being shafted for their undefeated record?

That would be me! :D I wasn't feeling sorry for them though, I was complaining about the CFP.

Big weekend with two top four teams going down! 'Bama might not fall out of the top four.
1- Badgers
2- Tigers (IF they win)
3- Sooners
4- Tide

IF Clem loses the 'Canes might still be in the top four.

I do however know that WHEN you lose makes a difference (as I've said, that is stupid).
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26 Nov 2017 01:13

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Big weekend with two top four teams going down! 'Bama might not fall out of the top four.
1- Badgers
2- Tigers (IF they win)
3- Sooners
4- Tide


There are actually two Tiger teams at play here, Auburn and Clemson. So Bama is likely out unless either Clemson loses to SC today or Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses the championship game. If Clemson wins today, they play Miami in the conference championship, and since both of these teams will have a single loss, the winner is virtually guaranteed a BCS spot. Almost the same with Auburn vs. Georgia; though Auburn has two losses, if they beat Georgia, two wins over that team plus the win over Bama would make it very hard to exclude them. The other two spots will go to Oklahoma (very likely) and Wisconsin (for sure) if they win their championship games. But my money is on the Badgers falling to Ohio State. That will open the door to Bama, and if Oklahoma loses, too, OSU could get in as well.

In other college football news, Chip Kelly is the new UCLA HC. It will be interesting to see if he can turn that team into what he did for Oregon. A lot of observers think he failed in the NFL in large part because the rules wouldn't allow him to implement his high-speed offense completely. It didn't help that he made some very poor personnel moves at Philly, and was never really given a chance in SF.

On the other hand, past success at the college level is not a guarantee of future success upon return. Just look at poor Jim Harbaugh, whose Wolverines have lost four conference games this year, including to arch-rival OSU for the third time in a row. His job could actually be in jeopardy if he doesn't turn it around next year. I'm wondering that if he should fail to deliver big at Michigan, would he still be attractive as a HC in the NFL.

OT, wrong thread, but can't resist: Bama's basketball team had to play the final 10+ minutes of a game vs. Minnesota with only three players on the floor. Their entire bench was ejected during a brawl, and they lost two starters to fouls or injuries. Talk about a power play advantage! And Bama still made it very close. How can you not pull away from another team when you have a 5-3 advantage?
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26 Nov 2017 01:29

jmdirt wrote:... I was complaining about the CFP.
The 13-person CFP committee will have some dilemmas on their hands this year, there is no way they can make everyone happy. Interestingly enough the playoffs aren't even sanctioned by the NCAA, how does this even work? I'm so confused...

In other news - crikes, the Ducks are up by 38 already, and it's only the 2nd quarter. At this rate they'll be bringing their 3rd stringers in by halftime. Poor Beavs. :((I can hear the noise from Autzen stadium all the way over here at my house, btw.)
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26 Nov 2017 02:24

Merckx index wrote:In other college football news, Chip Kelly is the new UCLA HC. It will be interesting to see if he can turn that team into what he did for Oregon. A lot of observers think he failed in the NFL in large part because the rules wouldn't allow him to implement his high-speed offense completely. It didn't help that he made some very poor personnel moves at Philly, and was never really given a chance in SF.
I think this works in college football, not so much in the NFL, though. But even in college football Chip wasn't able to win the National Championship, high speed offense usually always got beat by the physically huge guys who are superb at playing defense.

You can correct me anytime you like, btw., I'd like to think I can talk out of my **** and Monday morning quarterback with the best of them. :D
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26 Nov 2017 03:06

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jmdirt wrote:
Big weekend with two top four teams going down! 'Bama might not fall out of the top four.
1- Badgers
2- Tigers (IF they win)
3- Sooners
4- Tide


There are actually two Tiger teams at play here, Auburn and Clemson. So Bama is likely out unless either Clemson loses to SC today or Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses the championship game. If Clemson wins today, they play Miami in the conference championship, and since both of these teams will have a single loss, the winner is virtually guaranteed a BCS spot. Almost the same with Auburn vs. Georgia; though Auburn has two losses, if they beat Georgia, two wins over that team plus the win over Bama would make it very hard to exclude them. The other two spots will go to Oklahoma (very likely) and Wisconsin (for sure) if they win their championship games. But my money is on the Badgers falling to Ohio State. That will open the door to Bama, and if Oklahoma loses, too, OSU could get in as well.

In other college football news, Chip Kelly is the new UCLA HC. It will be interesting to see if he can turn that team into what he did for Oregon. A lot of observers think he failed in the NFL in large part because the rules wouldn't allow him to implement his high-speed offense completely. It didn't help that he made some very poor personnel moves at Philly, and was never really given a chance in SF.

On the other hand, past success at the college level is not a guarantee of future success upon return. Just look at poor Jim Harbaugh, whose Wolverines have lost four conference games this year, including to arch-rival OSU for the third time in a row. His job could actually be in jeopardy if he doesn't turn it around next year. I'm wondering that if he should fail to deliver big at Michigan, would he still be attractive as a HC in the NFL.

OT, wrong thread, but can't resist: Bama's basketball team had to play the final 10+ minutes of a game vs. Minnesota with only three players on the floor. Their entire bench was ejected during a brawl, and they lost two starters to fouls or injuries. Talk about a power play advantage! And Bama still made it very close. How can you not pull away from another team when you have a 5-3 advantage?


I think Chip will do well with UCLA once he builds the team up. Forget his year at the 49ers, that franchise was already in disarray and you can't perform miracles in 16 games. The main problem was the GM who is now gone thankfully.
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26 Nov 2017 03:20

Apple Cup is now bullshit as well, Huskies up by 24 in the 3rd. So will be forced to switch to Stanford v. Notre Dame, at least that game is close.

Go Stanford people!
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26 Nov 2017 04:49

Congrats Stanford, you get to play USC in the Pac-12 Championship game!

(Now, where will my Huskies go... some sort of 4th rate Bowl game, like I should even give a ****. But I just might, pending on who they are playing.)
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26 Nov 2017 06:40

Utah State and Air Force are managing to keep it close... 35-31 in the 4th quarter so far.

Nobody knows which Bowl they are aiming for, but what the heck...
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26 Nov 2017 12:44

jmdirt wrote:
Nomad wrote:BAMA GOES DOWN!!!

Auburn stuck it to Bama 26 - 14! The Tigers are on fire beating two #1's in the last three weeks! And with Miami's loss to Pitt this is sure to flip the CFP upside down. One thing is certain: hello Auburn & Wisconsin (who destroyed Minn earlier today) to the top 4, and both control their destination here on out with conference title games.

And who was feeling sorry for Wisconsin that they being shafted for their undefeated record?

That would be me! :D I wasn't feeling sorry for them though, I was complaining about the CFP.

Big weekend with two top four teams going down! 'Bama might not fall out of the top four.
1- Badgers
2- Tigers (IF they win)
3- Sooners
4- Tide

IF Clem loses the 'Canes might still be in the top four.

I do however know that WHEN you lose makes a difference (as I've said, that is stupid).
No need for anyone to feel sorry for them as they control their own destination, and may have the edge over Ohio St. if JT Barrett is going to be out with that knee injury. On your picks; if the committee only drops Bama to #4 isn't that essentially turning the SEC championship game into a meaningless New Year's 6 bowl game berth? If Oklahoma, Clemson & Wisconsin all win out, what happens to the either Auburn or Georgia? IMO, I see Bama at #5 with the first one in position if either Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses. Here's my picks for Tues. (I initially liked Auburn at #1, for defeating two #1's in the last 3 weeks, but realized that they had lost to Clemson earlier in the year).

Clemson
Auburn
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Alabama
Georgia
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26 Nov 2017 15:59

Nomad wrote:
jmdirt wrote:
Nomad wrote:BAMA GOES DOWN!!!

Auburn stuck it to Bama 26 - 14! The Tigers are on fire beating two #1's in the last three weeks! And with Miami's loss to Pitt this is sure to flip the CFP upside down. One thing is certain: hello Auburn & Wisconsin (who destroyed Minn earlier today) to the top 4, and both control their destination here on out with conference title games.

And who was feeling sorry for Wisconsin that they being shafted for their undefeated record?

That would be me! :D I wasn't feeling sorry for them though, I was complaining about the CFP.

Big weekend with two top four teams going down! 'Bama might not fall out of the top four.
1- Badgers
2- Tigers (IF they win) EDIT: they did.
3- Sooners
4- Tide

IF Clem loses the 'Canes might still be in the top four. EDIT they won.

I do however know that WHEN you lose makes a difference (as I've said, that is stupid).
No need for anyone to feel sorry for them as they control their own destination, and may have the edge over Ohio St. if JT Barrett is going to be out with that knee injury. On your picks; if the committee only drops Bama to #4 isn't that essentially turning the SEC championship game into a meaningless New Year's 6 bowl game berth? If Oklahoma, Clemson & Wisconsin all win out, what happens to the either Auburn or Georgia? IMO, I see Bama at #5 with the first one in position if either Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses. Here's my picks for Tues. (I initially liked Auburn at #1, for defeating two #1's in the last 3 weeks, but realized that they had lost to Clemson earlier in the year).

Clemson
Auburn
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Alabama
Georgia

Respectfully, how can a two loss team be ranked #2 (especially over a 0 loss team)? You, like the committee, place too much emphasis on recent wins and loses. How is Alabama's loss any worse than Oklahoma's? As we've all said though, let's see how it looks when they're done playing. The other Q is how far up the rankings will UCF move?
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29 Nov 2017 03:57

The Committee Football Playoff is officially as lame as the BCS it replaced. Maybe a 10 loss team with a big win last weekend should be arbitrarily declared world champion. Lamo was it's namo!
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jmdirt wrote:The Committee Football Playoff is officially as lame as the BCS it replaced. Maybe a 10 loss team with a big win last weekend should be arbitrarily declared world champion. Lamo was it's namo!
Just wait till Selection Sunday, hilarity will more than likely ensue. (Would hate to be on that selection committee right about now.)
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jmdirt wrote:
Nomad wrote:
jmdirt wrote:
Nomad wrote:BAMA GOES DOWN!!!

Auburn stuck it to Bama 26 - 14! The Tigers are on fire beating two #1's in the last three weeks! And with Miami's loss to Pitt this is sure to flip the CFP upside down. One thing is certain: hello Auburn & Wisconsin (who destroyed Minn earlier today) to the top 4, and both control their destination here on out with conference title games.

And who was feeling sorry for Wisconsin that they being shafted for their undefeated record?

That would be me! :D I wasn't feeling sorry for them though, I was complaining about the CFP.

Big weekend with two top four teams going down! 'Bama might not fall out of the top four.
1- Badgers
2- Tigers (IF they win) EDIT: they did.
3- Sooners
4- Tide

IF Clem loses the 'Canes might still be in the top four. EDIT they won.

I do however know that WHEN you lose makes a difference (as I've said, that is stupid).
No need for anyone to feel sorry for them as they control their own destination, and may have the edge over Ohio St. if JT Barrett is going to be out with that knee injury. On your picks; if the committee only drops Bama to #4 isn't that essentially turning the SEC championship game into a meaningless New Year's 6 bowl game berth? If Oklahoma, Clemson & Wisconsin all win out, what happens to the either Auburn or Georgia? IMO, I see Bama at #5 with the first one in position if either Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses. Here's my picks for Tues. (I initially liked Auburn at #1, for defeating two #1's in the last 3 weeks, but realized that they had lost to Clemson earlier in the year).

Clemson
Auburn
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Alabama
Georgia

Respectfully, how can a two loss team be ranked #2 (especially over a 0 loss team)? You, like the committee, place too much emphasis on recent wins and loses. How is Alabama's loss any worse than Oklahoma's? As we've all said though, let's see how it looks when they're done playing. The other Q is how far up the rankings will UCF move?
Easily...when you defeat two #1's in a span of 3 weeks, and remember Auburn hammered Georgia 40-17 in the first one. Auburn's 2 losses are to LSU and a close one to Clemson earlier in the year. Wisconsin just hasn't played anybody and I realize part of that is the Big 10 West that is weak this year. But hey - Wisconsin just needs to win and they're in like flint, and could be put in the Rose Bowl after all (the Rose & Sugar Bowls are the host sites for the CFP this year).

Bama's loss is far better than Oklahoma's. However, If you compare the Sooner's resume to Bama's it's not even close. Granted Oklahoma has that bad loss to Iowa St., but they have wins against 3 top 10 teams; Ohio St, Oklahoma St & TCU. Bama has the one loss to Auburn but only two wins against a ranked opponent, but both outside the top 10 (#14 LSU & #19 Miss St). And don't forget they struggled against "Mercer" 56-0. Lol.

If all the top 4 win out then it's a done deal and the committee can sign off on it and go home early (this would be the doomsday scenario for Bama though). The winners of the SEC & ACC are locks. If TCU pulls off the upset over Oklahoma then Bama will move up one spot to #4 and get an at-large birth. If Oklahoma wins but Wisconsin loses, now starts the controversy and the committee better have lots of coffee for a late nighter. The problem being is a 1-loss Bama better than a 2-loss & Big 10 champion OSU? OSU beat #2 Penn St and #17 Michigan St during the year, but has a bad loss against Oklahoma and a very bad loss to Iowa where they got beat by 31 pts. Bama has just the one loss to #6 Aubrun at the time, but really hasn't played anyone other than their season opener against Florida St, which was ranked #3 on the preseason polls. My money is on OSU, especially if they have a dominant game over Wisconsin. But all this speculation can be avoided if the best 4 teams just win out and everyone (except Bama Nation) is happy.
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30 Nov 2017 13:27

Very well said, Nomad. The four conference championships—ACC, SEC, Big 10 and Big 12—are de facto national quarterfinals (who says the CFP needs to be expanded to eight teams, it actually has been this year), with the winners of each very likely moving on to the BCS semifinals. I agree with everything in your post except when you say if Wisconsin wins “they’re in like flint”. No town in the state of Michigan is going to the CFP party this year.

Seriously, assuming Oklahoma beats TCU, Bama fans are going to have a very tough time watching the Big 10 championship. If favored OSU (and why are they ranked lower than Wisconsin if they’re favored?) trails, that’s bad news, because a Wisconsin win eliminates the Tide. But if OSU opens up a big lead, that’s bad news, too, because a big win by OSU will probably be enough to sway the Committee. The best scenario for Bama fans would be if OSU won in overtime, but that would be the most nerve-wracking type of game for a Bama fan to watch, one where their team’s fate isn’t decided until the very last play.

Another possible scenario is if both Oklahoma and Wisconsin lose. If and when Oklahoma loses, Alabama, as you said, should get in. But what happens if OSU narrowly beats Wisconsin? Will they get in, or will TCU, also a 2-loss conference champion at that point, have a shot? The Froggies to now have beaten only one ranked (as of now) team, OK State, but other than a loss to Oklahoma, which they share with OSU, they lost a close game to Iowa State, which had previously also upset Oklahoma and was ranked at the time. Whereas OSU was humiliated by Iowa. All else being equal, OSU would seem to be favored, but the actual scores of those conference championships might matter.
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