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Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 13:13

This is the biggest load of BS. Fat mock cockney Jamie Oliver talking about obesity .
Both my sons eat sweets big bags of haribos and have sugar they also have the occasional junk food.
They are both skinny healthy chaps. Slim no fat, tiny waists just like they should have for their age 9 and 13.
I used to eat sweets and have 3 sugars in my tea when I was growing up I was not fat.
Sugar don't make you fat it gives you energy. Put some in your water bottle when you go for a ride ,try it.
Have a full can of coke when you have the last few K's to go on a long bike ride and all that sugar works just fine as it should and does. Look at country's where people eat lots of sugar, fruits, rice. Slim.
Look at us and our take away chemical food induced world, obese. Sugar is not the problem

My youngest son has a friend [ 9years old] who is fat. His family are fat. They just eat to much food.
They eat to much cr5p food as well. No Flipping way should a young child be fat.
If they are fat then they are eating crazy amounts of fat piling food.
Giant sized chocolate bars, giant sized pizza's with stuffed crusts ,BOGOF etc this is the problem not sugar.
If Jamie Oliver was slim and healthy I may listen but he's a overweight chef who serves hi fat content artery clogging food at his diners. He had the right idea with is attempt at changing school meals but this sugar tax is not going to stop obesity .

You want to stop obisty then stop stuffing you face full of food , - edited by mods -
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 13:23

Bitter much?
Check 'em!
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 13:57

CheckMyPecs wrote:Bitter much?


WTF you talking about Bitter. Its a issue. Its not about me.
Its about common sense.
Sugar is not the problem.
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 13:58

CheckMyPecs wrote:Bitter much?


He's right. Sugar is not the real problem, I eat lots of sugar, I'm super slim. The problem is people eat too much. The problem is gluttony.
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 14:37

ray j willings wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:Bitter much?


WTF you talking about Bitter. Its a issue. Its not about me.
Its about common sense.
Sugar is not the problem.


You may have missed a play on words ;)
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17 Mar 2016 14:38

jamie oliver should focus on educating people about moderation, instead of fighting the sugar industry.
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 14:39

ray j willings wrote:This is the biggest load of BS. Fat mock cockney Jamie Oliver talking about obesity .
Both my sons eat sweets big bags of haribos and have sugar they also have the occasional junk food.
They are both skinny healthy chaps. Slim no fat, tiny waists just like they should have for their age 9 and 13.
I used to eat sweets and have 3 sugars in my tea when I was growing up I was not fat.
Sugar don't make you fat it gives you energy. Put some in your water bottle when you go for a ride ,try it.
Have a full can of coke when you have the last few K's to go on a long bike ride and all that sugar works just fine as it should and does. Look at country's where people eat lots of sugar, fruits, rice. Slim.
Look at us and our take away chemical food induced world, obese. Sugar is not the problem

My youngest son has a friend [ 9years old] who is fat. His family are fat. They just eat to much food.
They eat to much cr5p food as well. No Flipping way should a young child be fat.
If they are fat then they are eating crazy amounts of fat piling food.
Giant sized chocolate bars, giant sized pizza's with stuffed crusts ,BOGOF etc this is the problem not sugar.
If Jamie Oliver was slim and healthy I may listen but he's a overweight chef who serves hi fat content artery clogging food at his diners. He had the right idea with is attempt at changing school meals but this sugar tax is not going to stop obesity .

You want to stop obisty then stop stuffing you face full of food , Get a fu55king grip.

It is mind blowing someone wants to put a tax on sugar. I have to agree with you 100%
Honestly that is some liberal utopia crap that should be stopped before it gets out of hand.

In the USA they (soda manufactures and many other companies) decided that it was cheaper to switch sugars for High Fructose Corn Syrup. Without even trying to determine if the crap was bad for you or not. I'm not convinced either way but it does seem to have some effects on SIZE of fat folks. Then again as you say in your post it has more to do with the AMOUNTS of INTAKE than it does the sweetener.
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 14:48

cellardoor wrote:
ray j willings wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:Bitter much?


WTF you talking about Bitter. Its a issue. Its not about me.
Its about common sense.
Sugar is not the problem.


You may have missed a play on words ;)

This man knows. ;)
Check 'em!
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 16:36

Glenn_Wilson wrote:
ray j willings wrote:This is the biggest load of BS. Fat mock cockney Jamie Oliver talking about obesity .
Both my sons eat sweets big bags of haribos and have sugar they also have the occasional junk food.
They are both skinny healthy chaps. Slim no fat, tiny waists just like they should have for their age 9 and 13.
I used to eat sweets and have 3 sugars in my tea when I was growing up I was not fat.
Sugar don't make you fat it gives you energy. Put some in your water bottle when you go for a ride ,try it.
Have a full can of coke when you have the last few K's to go on a long bike ride and all that sugar works just fine as it should and does. Look at country's where people eat lots of sugar, fruits, rice. Slim.
Look at us and our take away chemical food induced world, obese. Sugar is not the problem

My youngest son has a friend [ 9years old] who is fat. His family are fat. They just eat to much food.
They eat to much cr5p food as well. No Flipping way should a young child be fat.
If they are fat then they are eating crazy amounts of fat piling food.
Giant sized chocolate bars, giant sized pizza's with stuffed crusts ,BOGOF etc this is the problem not sugar.
If Jamie Oliver was slim and healthy I may listen but he's a overweight chef who serves hi fat content artery clogging food at his diners. He had the right idea with is attempt at changing school meals but this sugar tax is not going to stop obesity .

You want to stop obisty then stop stuffing you face full of food , Get a fu55king grip.

It is mind blowing someone wants to put a tax on sugar. I have to agree with you 100%
Honestly that is some liberal utopia crap that should be stopped before it gets out of hand.

In the USA they (soda manufactures and many other companies) decided that it was cheaper to switch sugars for High Fructose Corn Syrup. Without even trying to determine if the crap was bad for you or not. I'm not convinced either way but it does seem to have some effects on SIZE of fat folks. Then again as you say in your post it has more to do with the AMOUNTS of INTAKE than it does the sweetener.


You are right, the problem - almost all of the problem - is high fructose corn syrup. Highly processed fast food, both sweet and savory, both solid and liquid, has a high concentration of high fructose corn syrup.

Go to anyplace in the world where there are a lot of American fast food chains and you'll find an obese population that used to be thin, no matter the culture. And it isn't just fast food restaurants, it's also highly processed foods on supermarket shelves, which also has a high level of corn syrup.

Why do companies use so much of this stuff, especially since they know it's killing us? Because it's dirt cheap and highly profitable, and also because it supports corporate agri-business.

It used to be just Americans and Mexicans that were obese. Thanks to globalization and free trade, though, now everybody has the problem.
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17 Mar 2016 17:25

LOL low sugar/fat products are not for health but to boost sales.................................Mark L
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17 Mar 2016 17:32

Sugar in high quantity isn't good for you. Glucose is, of course, essential in respiration and thus energy. However the ridiculous amount of sugar in the likes of Coke and the Starbucks soft-drinks will make you obese. Controlled trials almost all confirm this. Going against this is like going against Climate Change and effectively anti-science. Most companies don't use glucose as such anymore, but rather HFCS.

Sugar is part of the problem. Even if you don't look fat on the outside I don't know how many of you guys do many blood tests to see what sugar does inside your body. Or how about Internal fat? If you do loads of exercise and eat a lot of sugar then you probably won't get fat, but it doesn't make an excess of sugar good for you.
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

17 Mar 2016 17:41

CheckMyPecs wrote:
cellardoor wrote:
ray j willings wrote:
CheckMyPecs wrote:Bitter much?


WTF you talking about Bitter. Its a issue. Its not about me.
Its about common sense.
Sugar is not the problem.


You may have missed a play on words ;)

This man knows. ;)

You got me good Mr Pecs. Respect.
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17 Mar 2016 17:57

ebandit wrote:LOL low sugar/fat products are not for health but to boost sales.................................Mark L


Spot on. Some of the so called low sugar/low fat food options have nearly as many calories as the "Normal options"

Quote Brullnux
"If you do loads of exercise and eat a lot of sugar then you probably won't get fat, but it doesn't make an excess of sugar good for you"

Excess is the right word. Balance is important. Eddie Izzard ran all those marathons and gained weight.
He stuffing his fat face with chocolate bars "snickers " etc He went into calorie overload.
Sugar is not the monster that lardy boy Oliver is claiming it to be. This tax will not stop obesity.
Its up to parents to get control of their eating habits.
Every fat kid who goes to my sons schools all have fat obese parents. When you see kids 7 or 8 years old and they are already overweight ,I find it shocking to be honest.
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17 Mar 2016 18:20

Calories are good though. Calories = energy.

Problem is that nowadays most soft drinks have an excess of sugar. I don't think the tax solves this problem, but neither does saying sugar isn't part of the obesity problem.
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18 Mar 2016 03:34

Unfortunately some people will refuse to adapt to a healthier lifestyle until you hit them where they live - the hip pocket. Sure, this may not be the best way to go about childhood obesity but if it makes parents think twice about overloading the shopping trolley with soft drinks, super sugary breakfast cereals, ice cream etc then surely it's a step in the right direction.

Some people need this kind of incentive - remember Jamie's school dinners where parents were passing McDonalds over the school fence so their fat spawn could have "proper food"?
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18 Mar 2016 03:52

I recommend watching this lecture on this subject: http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Sugar-The-Bitter-Truth-16717

Sugar: The Bitter Truth
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Re: Sugar Tax, Jamie oliver

18 Mar 2016 04:12

ray j willings wrote:Both my sons eat sweets big bags of haribos and have sugar they also have the occasional junk food.
They are both skinny healthy chaps. Slim no fat, tiny waists just like they should have for their age 9 and 13.
I used to eat sweets and have 3 sugars in my tea when I was growing up I was not fat.


I know people who have smoked two packs of cigarettes a day all their lives, and they didn’t get lung cancer.

Learn the difference between anecdotal evidence and controlled studies. It isn’t just about obesity, either, excess sugar causes other problems, e.g.:

1) the calories you get from sugar are empty, meaning they substitute for calories you should be getting from more nutritious foods
2) too much ingestion of fructose can overwhelm the liver, which transforms excess fructose to glycogen
3) over consumption of sugar may increase the risk of developing insulin resistance and type II diabetes
4) excess sugar consumption has hormonal effects that may increase the likelihood of overeating in general and becoming over weight.
5) There is evidence linking over consumption of sugar to heart disease and cancer.

Nothing wrong with kids having some candy, cake, etc., now and then, but soft drinks, many of which contain several tablespoons full of corn syrup, are definitely a problem.
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18 Mar 2016 05:56

Brullnux wrote:Sugar in high quantity isn't good for you. Glucose is, of course, essential in respiration and thus energy. However the ridiculous amount of sugar in the likes of Coke and the Starbucks soft-drinks will make you obese. Controlled trials almost all confirm this. Going against this is like going against Climate Change and effectively anti-science. Most companies don't use glucose as such anymore, but rather HFCS.

Sugar is part of the problem. Even if you don't look fat on the outside I don't know how many of you guys do many blood tests to see what sugar does inside your body. Or how about Internal fat? If you do loads of exercise and eat a lot of sugar then you probably won't get fat, but it doesn't make an excess of sugar good for you.


Occasionally drink a Coke now and then is not a problem, ten Cokes a day is.

The problem is that consumerism has attacked everything, while most people have no other discipline than acquiescing, submissively, to the consumer regime. The law of endless choice and easy consumption in the dietary context has made the developed world fatter an unhealthier than it was before consumerism. The pharmaceutical industry has cashed in though. So all is well.
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18 Mar 2016 06:15

A simple rule for parents to adopt in my opinion is not to keep things like fizzy drinks and chocolate bars (at least not the family size pack type of thing) in the house. If kids want to treat themselves to the odd can of coke or chocolate bar then they can do so out of their pocket money or paper-round money, which will naturally limit them.
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18 Mar 2016 10:56

cellardoor wrote:A simple rule for parents to adopt in my opinion is not to keep things like fizzy drinks and chocolate bars (at least not the family size pack type of thing) in the house. If kids want to treat themselves to the odd can of coke or chocolate bar then they can do so out of their pocket money or paper-round money, which will naturally limit them.


Its not about keeping temptation away . Its about making sure your kids are healthy. You cannot hide drinks sweets cakes away from kids. You have to educate them on their eating habits. My kids will refuse to eat a chocolate bar at times. They are not obsessed with eating sweets /chocolate. I also don't let them eat if they get bored or are upset, eating is not the answer.
My youngest son does not like Fizzy drinks. My eldest son likes the odd can of Fanta or coke maybe once a week . I do not make any issue about any type of food or drink. If My eldest wants a can of coke I have no issue with that. IMO people eat when they are bored or stressed or sitting there watching k%k tv , that's why we see so many fat people.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/476772-how-does-sugar-give-you-energy/
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