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03 Jan 2018 15:12

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03 Jan 2018 17:59

aphronesis wrote:https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/01/03/britains-dirty-war-in-ireland-revisited/


Some background as to why...

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/news-analysis/where-would-the-ira-get-weapons-by-looking-south-28874651.html
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03 Jan 2018 18:56

Not really. Nice try though. Slightly more germane than your ever impressive and welcome contributions to US politics.
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03 Jan 2018 18:57

aphronesis wrote:Not really. Nice try though. Slightly more germane than your ever impressive and welcome contributions to US politics.


Wow.
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04 Jan 2018 14:12

"The NHS is under threat. Only a new model of care will save it"

https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2018/jan/04/nhs-under-threat-new-model-of-care?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Neoliberal ideologues cannot have it both ways. If they want people to be responsible for their own health, rather than have to fund a workable NHS that can cope with the effects of an epidemic of lifestyle related disease then they have to do something to halt the importation of American sloth and greed culture, regulate the food industry and rein back the dominance of the car as transport.
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07 Jan 2018 17:26

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07 Jan 2018 21:48

macbindle wrote:"The NHS is under threat. Only a new model of care will save it"

https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2018/jan/04/nhs-under-threat-new-model-of-care?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Neoliberal ideologues cannot have it both ways. If they want people to be responsible for their own health, rather than have to fund a workable NHS that can cope with the effects of an epidemic of lifestyle related disease then they have to do something to halt the importation of American sloth and greed culture, regulate the food industry and rein back the dominance of the car as transport.


Wait, what, Brits can’t regulate themselves against the primal blandishments of sloth and greed, just say no to a steady diet of supersize crisps, better yet, mmmm: Pringles and dodgy sausage rolls off the motorway, and quit being hidebound and passive long enough to take back their own “public” transportation and communal civil design?

It’s the Americans’ fault? Sounds like a Trumpian argument. Or the opioid victims who had no idea thar be dangers there.

Oh woe! O whither the commons? Neoliberals have been having it both ways and laughing at the plebs the entire time.
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10 Jan 2018 07:18

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/10/davis-and-hammond-make-plea-to-germany-in-pursuit-of-brexit-deal
Philip Hammond and David Davis have made a direct appeal to German business leaders to help them forge a Brexit deal to secure the future of Britain’s financial services.

Britain’s decision to leave the EU has already caused havoc in the financial services sector with thousands of jobs in corporate banking, asset management and insurance being moved to Frankfurt, Luxembourg, Amsterdam, Paris and Dublin.


The only really profitable industry in the UK is about to move to the EU. Full panic mode! (Using 2008's crash is BS)
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10 Jan 2018 08:11

The Russians will be concerned.

Where are they going to launder all their money??
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10 Jan 2018 11:14

macbindle wrote:The Russians will be concerned.

Where are they going to launder all their money??


The off-shore tax haven that the City will become! :lol:
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10 Jan 2018 13:21

“Will”?
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11 Jan 2018 13:21

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/11/number-of-britons-applying-for-french-citizenship-rises-tenfold-in-three-years
Number of Britons applying for French citizenship rises tenfold in three years

French interior ministry says 386 Britons applied for French citizenship in 2015, 1,363 in 2016, and 3,173 in 2017
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14 Jan 2018 09:46

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266657/Ukip-leaders-girlfriends-racist-Meghan-Markle-messages.html

Legions of blue-rinsed Mail readers will be quivering with cognitive dissonance over their tea and marmalade this morning, with an uncomfortable elision of their two favourite tropes: racism and the Royal family. Which trumps which? The Royals.

Racism is perfectly acceptable, especially in this era of the Muslim hordes overwhelming the white indigenous Briton, beaten into submission and silence by the PC brigade.

But not when the target is a soon-to-be member of the Royal Family.

Of course the Mail's bad faith outrage will have nothing to do with smearing the current UKIP leader in preparation for a return of oleaginous opportunist, Nigel Farage...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/13/nigel-farage-hard-brexit-leave-remain-no-deal
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14 Jan 2018 12:51

macbindle wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266657/Ukip-leaders-girlfriends-racist-Meghan-Markle-messages.html

Legions of blue-rinsed Mail readers will be quivering with cognitive dissonance over their tea and marmalade this morning, with an uncomfortable elision of their two favourite tropes: racism and the Royal family. Which trumps which? The Royals.

Racism is perfectly acceptable, especially in this era of the Muslim hordes overwhelming the white indigenous Briton, beaten into submission and silence by the PC brigade.

But not when the target is a soon-to-be member of the Royal Family.

Of course the Mail's bad faith outrage will have nothing to do with smearing the current UKIP leader in preparation for a return of oleaginous opportunist, Nigel Farage...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/13/nigel-farage-hard-brexit-leave-remain-no-deal


Did you miss the recent "Royal wears racist brooch to lunch with Megham Markle" story?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42462724

'Princess Michael of Kent has apologised for wearing a brooch that critics have called "racist". The royal, who married the Queen's first cousin, attended a Christmas banquet at Buckingham Palace on Wednesday wearing a blackamoor brooch. Prince Harry's fiancée, Meghan Markle, who is mixed-race, was also a guest at the lunch. A spokesman said the princess "is very sorry and distressed that it has caused offence".'
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14 Jan 2018 13:28

It is strange that there is so much concern towards not offending Markle when you consider that she is marrying a man who used to occupy his time by machine-gunning Afghan farmers with impunity up in his helicopter
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14 Jan 2018 14:33

macbindle wrote:It is strange that there is so much concern towards not offending Markle when you consider that she is marrying a man who used to occupy his time by machine-gunning Afghan farmers from impunity up in his helicopter


Different compartment.
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14 Jan 2018 17:58

macbindle wrote:It is strange that there is so much concern towards not offending Markle when you consider that she is marrying a man who used to occupy his time by machine-gunning Afghan farmers with impunity up in his helicopter

So its clear...a Jr officer or enlisted soldier should personally verify the information used as a basis for a Blair order to military superiors before packing your gear for deployment?
A man famous or not should not want to shield his loved one from hateful, harmful speech and actions?
Afghani farmers? Was that the sizable group involved in collateral killings?
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14 Jan 2018 19:13

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macbindle wrote:It is strange that there is so much concern towards not offending Markle when you consider that she is marrying a man who used to occupy his time by machine-gunning Afghan farmers with impunity up in his helicopter

So its clear...a Jr officer or enlisted soldier should personally verify the information used as a basis for a Blair order to military superiors before packing your gear for deployment?
A man famous or not should not want to shield his loved one from hateful, harmful speech and actions?
Afghani farmers? Was that the sizable group involved in collateral killings?


I don't understand the relevance of your first sentence at all, I'm afraid.
The second sentence is missing the point hugely. I'm not talking about Prince Harold's reaction to the racist comments from UKIP floozy, in fact nobody is, I'm commenting on the double-standards of sections of the UK press.

Your last sentence involves a whole universe of discussion, but if you think there are clear distinctions between Taliban and civilians you'd be wrong.

Anyway, if it was up to me, and I wanted to teach Afghanis about democracy, I'd probably my send a Prince to shoot at them from a helicopter too.
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15 Jan 2018 07:37

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42687032

Ahh, the good ol' days of my youth, with Tarmac and Irishmen in donkey jackets. Alas no more ...
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15 Jan 2018 09:44

Robert5091 wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42687032

Ahh, the good ol' days of my youth, with Tarmac and Irishmen in donkey jackets. Alas no more ...


This is seriously bad news. A government crippled into inertia because of Brexit now has what is effectively an executive arm cut off.
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