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18 Apr 2018 05:16

I've always resented that whiney c**t for ruining Johnny Marr's beautiful guitar playing.
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18 Apr 2018 13:20

Hey, I thought the 80s were grim too, but couldn’t see finding solace in him.
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23 Apr 2018 16:16

This week's hot topic in British politics is the Windrush debacle.

Summed up here by off-camera news reporter, Jonathan Pie

https://www.facebook.com/JonathanPieReporter/videos/1537718273017727/
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26 Apr 2018 07:35

DJPbaltimore:'John Kerry is an honorable person and would not call out the Russians if there was not evidence', 'the 2 of you are russia stooges'
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26 Apr 2018 08:28

No sh1t.

It's hardly news. It's widely known that UKSF (Along with several other nations) are heavily involved in training Syrian opposition forces. They would be more heavily involved had parliament voted against wider action in 2013(?).

The name of the game is holding back Iranian and Russian influence in the area. Abject failure on both goals, and yes, it has almost certainly prolonged the civil war.
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26 Apr 2018 09:10

No sh1t. indeed. arming, and fermenting radical jihadism....
The operation was not disclosed to US congressional intelligence committees as required by US law, and "the involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation"
Hersh noted that "many of those in Syria who ultimately received the weapons were jihadists", some affiliated with al-Qaeda. Indeed, it is believed that Qatar – which was the UK's key ally in overthrowing Gaddafi and was now repeating its role in Syria – was pouring weapons and cash into Nusra. The Telegraph reported on a Middle Eastern diplomat saying that Qatar is responsible for Nusra "having money and weapons and everything they need"..


Lord Ashdown, the former Liberal Democrat leader, later said this massive quantity of arms ended up going "almost exclusively to the more jihadist groups". Nusra and another hardline Islamist group, Ahrar al-Sham,

In Autumn 2013, Britain began a major refocus of its campaign to support the Syrian opposition, known to be dominated and driven by extremists and jihadists

It is not clear which militant groups British officials met, but a new coalition, the Islamic Front, emerged around this time, and included Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham. The latter had regularly worked with Nusra and IS until January 2014. Ahrar al-Sham's co-founder, Abu Khalid al-Suri, was al-Qaeda’s representative in Syria before being killed in February 2014, and he was linked to the 2004 Madrid bombing through a series of money transfers and personal contacts.


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26 Apr 2018 09:42

Of course. I think we have all noticed that the Russians and the US (most overtly) are claiming to be doing the same job in Syria....eradicating IS.
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03 May 2018 19:26

Oh god. Did you have to?

I had, for a brief moment, forgotten about Brexit.
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03 May 2018 20:01

Just passing it along. Gearing up for the summer holidays and the state of the topic.
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09 May 2018 14:21

macbindle wrote:Of course. I think we have all noticed that the Russians and the US (most overtly) are claiming to be doing the same job in Syria....eradicating IS.


Yup, and making Syria safe for the butcher of Damascus..
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