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09 Sep 2018 19:46

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/09/boris-johnson-calls-theresa-may-chequers-brexit-plan-suicide-vest
The Conservative party has erupted into open civil war after forceful criticism of Boris Johnson over his description of Theresa May’s Brexit plan as a “suicide vest” prompted counter-accusations of a “project smear” by Downing Street.

The furious exchanges, in which a leading Tory backbencher said she would probably quit the party if Johnson became leader, herald a turbulent run-up to the party’s conference this month, which is likely to be dominated by intertwined rows over Brexit and the successor to Theresa May.


The party conference should be a real show stopper - get your popcorn ready :)
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12 Sep 2018 08:48

Putin says Russia knows real identity of men accused by UK over poisoning
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-economy-forum-britain/putin-says-russia-knows-real-identity-of-men-accused-by-uk-over-poisoning-idUSKCN1LS0V9?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

normally, the identity of secret agents, particularly those accused of crimes, is not flashed by the accused side...it seems vlad is more than flashing, he's baiting the british by promising the alleged spies will soon speak up publicly.

i am trying to break down the game here...any one wants to help ?
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12 Sep 2018 10:02

python wrote:Putin says Russia knows real identity of men accused by UK over poisoning
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-economy-forum-britain/putin-says-russia-knows-real-identity-of-men-accused-by-uk-over-poisoning-idUSKCN1LS0V9?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

normally, the identity of secret agents, particularly those accused of crimes, is not flashed by the accused side...it seems vlad is more than flashing, he's baiting the british by promising the alleged spies will soon speak up publicly.

i am trying to break down the game here...any one wants to help ?


Vlad
Russia had found the two men, that they were civilians, and there was nothing special or criminal about them and that he hoped they would come forward ...

really?! :D "hoped" ... I think if Putin wanted them to "come forward", they would have done by now. :D

(the whole thing smells fishy - there's even the idea of Skripal actually met the two agents - see http://johnhelmer.net/the-new-allegations-in-the-skripal-case-and-the-standard-of-proof/#more-19679 )
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12 Sep 2018 12:22

Robert5091 wrote:
python wrote:Putin says Russia knows real identity of men accused by UK over poisoning
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-economy-forum-britain/putin-says-russia-knows-real-identity-of-men-accused-by-uk-over-poisoning-idUSKCN1LS0V9?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

normally, the identity of secret agents, particularly those accused of crimes, is not flashed by the accused side...it seems vlad is more than flashing, he's baiting the british by promising the alleged spies will soon speak up publicly.

i am trying to break down the game here...any one wants to help ?


Vlad
Russia had found the two men, that they were civilians, and there was nothing special or criminal about them and that he hoped they would come forward ...

really?! :D "hoped" ... I think if Putin wanted them to "come forward", they would have done by now. :D

(the whole thing smells fishy - there's even the idea of Skripal actually met the two agents - see http://johnhelmer.net/the-new-allegations-in-the-skripal-case-and-the-standard-of-proof/#more-19679 )
robert, imo the story smells fishy as played by BOTH sides...

i think of 2 points wrt to the bolded:

1. if the vlad words were translated properly, he expressed the hope of the agents coming forward, AFTER a softball from a russian moderator at a far east forum taking place right now. i read it as the softball question was staged to have vlad deliver an unexpected news that the agents will talk soon. it is a gamy response to the british dripping the skripal 'news', the last being the faces and identities of the 2 secret agents

2. virtually all skripal versions one can read about in the west are derived from what the british foreign office dripped over time (i am NOT talking about the journo's imagination stories). i think, presenting the agents in person would allow vlad to intercept the narrative. it is a pr game both sides play.
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26 Sep 2018 08:00

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-papers-45647569
The Daily Telegraph reports that Theresa May, in a speech to business leaders in New York, will promise to slash corporation tax to the lowest rate in the G20. The paper interprets this as both a signal to foreign investors and as an attempt to convince Tory critics that she can be trusted to maximise the benefits of Brexit.


So the UK is to be an off-shore tax haven then? :)
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26 Sep 2018 17:45

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27 Sep 2018 06:22

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon aka Tommy Robinson - don't believe the hype, he's just a f*****ng [bleep]hole.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-jailed-prison-latest-court-hearing-contempt-leeds-judge-grooming-gangs-a8556426.html
...he was handed a three-month suspended sentence for trying to film defendants inside the court during jury deliberations, after being told to stop and warned filming was against the law.

Judge Heather Norton said at the time: “This contempt hearing is not about free speech…it is about justice, and it is about ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly.”
...
Robinson characterises himself as an “independent reporter”, but the Court of Appeal found that his interest in both the Canterbury and Leeds trials was “ethnicity or religion of the defendants”.
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30 Sep 2018 17:22

The circus has started -
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-conference-latest-young-voters-ethnic-minorities-labour-youth-vote-a8562011.html
The Tories could "go out of business" unless the party comes up with a convincing offer to woo young voters and ethnic minority voters, Conservative MPs have said.
...
The Harborough MP said the party would "go out of business" if it did not expand beyond its older, white voters and lamented the lack of a "strong policy offer" for young people.

His concerns were echoed by Mr Freeman, a party moderniser who came up with the Big Tent Ideas festival, which was dubbed "Tory Glastonbury".

Mr Freeman said Conservative ranks were too full of "middle-aged white men" and lacked vision to speak to the younger generation.
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30 Sep 2018 18:04

^^that's a lot of spacious political rhetoric at best or more factually it was a fear mongering on the basis of little...it's like those who predict the end of Britain if it does not get a deal with the eu THEY want.

young blood, wider cultural/ethnic representation are all fair issues, but these allusions to the end of conservatism in the land that begot it (in the political/historical terms of western civilization) , as i said, was cheap..

now that i think of it, i feel it may do the uk good if a hard brexit DOES take place. then, the adventurists that enabled it, will look back analytically to sort out the british conservative tendencies, the younger folks votes that largely opposed it, the scottish and irish pro-eu sentiments that also opposed the exit fueled by significant numbers of the younger hands...

imo modern britain is a tad seriously confused when it calls corbyn antisemitic while other simeegly intelligent brits see an idiot like boris in the pm seat...that's apar with those in the us voting for trump, the aberrant politician...time to shake off the cheap rhetoric and engage the typical british ability to reflect and do the right thing at the right moments of history...
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01 Oct 2018 21:16

Popcorn ready? :D
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-01/boris-johnson-trolls-theresa-may-by-running-through-wheat-field?srnd=premium-europe
Bizarre photo stunt shows Johnson mocking May ahead of rally - Johnson due to address Conservative Party on Brexit Tuesday

Boris Johnson, the publicity-hungry former foreign secretary, was photographed running through what looked like a field of crops outside his countryside home Monday.

It was an act that seemed to openly mock Prime Minister Theresa May, who once admitted trampling a wheat field was the naughtiest thing she had ever done.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-tory-party-conference-speech-conservative-leader-theresa-may-leadership-bid-a8564131.html

Boris Johnson will make on overt pitch for the backing of Tory members on Tuesday, demanding the party get back to “conservative instincts” instead of trying to ape Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn.

The former foreign secretary will say the party should focus on tax cuts, homes and law and order as he courts members who would vote in any future leadership contest.

In a sign that he is trying to appeal to a broad range of the party following comments that offended many people about Muslim women wearing burqas and niqabs, he will seek to position himself as a “one nation” Tory.

His speech on the fringe of the Conservative conference in Birmingham will be seen as the latest step towards an expected challenge to Theresa May in the coming months.
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03 Oct 2018 12:54

Deranged woman in another reality speaks!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/03/theresa-may-conference-speech-ambasts-labour-as-she-calls-for-tory-unity
Corbyn - boo! Labour Party - boo!
“A decade after the financial crash, people need to know that the austerity it led to is over an that their hard work has paid off.”


You've never had it so good!

“There must be no return to the uncontrolled borrowing of the past. ...

May announced she would scrap the cap on how much local authorities can borrow to build new social housing ...

pour an extra £20bn into the NHS ...


Corbyn - boo! Labour Party - boo!
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04 Oct 2018 10:07

If we do it really quickly, no one will notice ... brilliant plan worthy of Blackadder's sidekick Baldrick.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/u-k-s-may-said-to-plan-rushing-brexit-deal-through-parliament?srnd=premium-europe
Prime Minister Theresa May’s officials are drawing up plans to rush her Brexit deal through Parliament in an attempt to head off a rebellion from her own party, according to people familiar with the matter.

May’s team want the final withdrawal agreement ratified by lawmakers within two weeks of signing the terms of the divorce in Brussels. Under that timetable, members of Parliament would vote on whether to accept or reject the divorce treaty by the beginning of December, the people said. May’s office declined to comment.


Or the Maggie Thatcher "nanny approach" of "do what I say or it'll be worse."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-brexit-tory-revolt-conservative-eu-summit-chequers-conference-a8567816.html
Time is running out for Ms May to break the deadlock with Brussels ahead of the European Council summit on October 17, which the EU has described as the "moment of truth" for a Brexit deal.

The prime minister is reportedly beginning a frantic diplomatic push with European leaders, after telling Tory activists in Birmingham that they risked ending up with "no Brexit at all" if they could not unite.
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04 Oct 2018 13:30

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45746837
Dutch security services say they expelled four Russians over a cyber attack plot targeting the global chemical weapons watchdog.

The operation by Russia's GRU military intelligence allegedly targeted the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons in The Hague in April.

The OPCW has been probing the chemical attack on a Russian ex-spy in the UK.

The allegations are part of an organised push-back against alleged Russian cyber attacks around the world.

A joint statement from British Prime Minister Theresa May and her Dutch counterpart Mark Rutte said the alleged plot demonstrated "the GRU's disregard for global values and rules that keep us all safe".
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07 Oct 2018 06:08

Another cunning plan ... get Labour to vote for her plan! Genius ...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/06/theresa-may-bids-for-centre-ground-with-appeal-to-labour-voters
Writing exclusively in today’s Observer the prime minister says that if people who have previously backed Labour look again at her government’s programme, including pledges to increase house building and manage markets where necessary, they will find that it is not driven by ideology, but by beliefs and values that the vast majority could support.
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08 Oct 2018 17:29

i am kinda following the brexit daily iterations with one eye open...

the latest very confusing statements from the opposing sides indicate to me the 2 sides have a draft version more or less acceptable to both. the 2 key issues being the irish border and the common market. i cant see any serious british politician neglecting the potential for the uk disintegration if undue rigidity is pursued....the public media bickering imo is about the british electorate and the uk political brass being convinced in the tentative version.... under this scenario, i cant see the eu playing the hard ball they now are doing as we get closer and closer to march...a no deal is detrimental to many in europe, particularly the german business community, and i assume they WILL BE INTERESTED IN STRENGTHENING THE Theresa MAY POSITION. my reckoning is that the french, inversely, are interested in seeing the british as weak as possible at the end of the day...not russia, as the uk media want everyone to think...not that vlad will cry if the brits come out short...but, that is another set of his potential problems even HE does not know yet how to deal with...like the no look back new strategic union btwn the us and the uk.
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15 Oct 2018 06:15

Wednesday's the day -
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/14/brexit-theresa-may-domestic-vulnerability-talks-knife-edge
The Brexit negotiations are on a knife-edge as Theresa May’s domestic vulnerability over the Irish border threatens to kill off hopes of an October deal, with the Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, forced to make a dash to Brussels to seek more time from the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier.

Days before the crunch leaders’ summit at which the EU has demanded “maximum progress” be made to allow the talks to develop, Raab made the unexpected flying visit.

He is understood to have told Barnier during a meeting that lasted just over an hour that the volatility of politics at home meant that a plan to strike an agreement on Monday on the backstop solution for avoiding a hard border on the island of Ireland was not possible.


meanwhile the Tory rebels plot ...
The former Brexit secretary David Davis appealed on Sunday to the cabinet to “exert its collective authority” to kill off May’s plans, with as many as nine ministers said to be considering their positions.
Brexiter cabinet members have called a meeting to be chaired by the Commons leader, Andrea Leadsom, to discuss their next move on Monday.


and May's "you've never had it so good" ...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/14/uk-economy-heading-for-worst-year-since-financial-crash-economists-ey-item-club-no-deal-brexit
The British economy is heading for its worst year in almost a decade amid the growing risks from no-deal Brexit, according to a leading economic forecaster.

After official figures revealed zero growth in GDP in August, the EY Item Club said the economy would struggle to recover in the final months of the year owing to the increasing likelihood of Britain crashing out of the EU in less than six months’ time.
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15 Oct 2018 10:11

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-updates-theresa-may-dup-barnier-eu-talks-deal-conservatives-raab-a8584201.html
David Davis has told Tory MPs they should trigger a leadership contest to topple Theresa May unless she drops her Brexit plan this week, The Independent can reveal.

The former Brexit secretary wants the prime minister to be presented with an ultimatum that her party will seek to remove her if she refuses to budge before Wednesday’s crunch EU summit.

If she stands firm, Tory MPs will immediately trigger a leadership contest by sending in the required 48 letters calling for a vote of confidence in her, he is warning ministers.
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