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10 Jul 2016 21:18

Clattenburg almost single-highhandedly ruined the **** final of the Euro. English Refs at work
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10 Jul 2016 21:19

Yeahhhh
What a hit son, what a hit!
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10 Jul 2016 21:19

nice :D
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10 Jul 2016 21:19

Conjecture: Without Clattenburg's blunder that goal would not have happened.
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10 Jul 2016 21:21

In tears at Eder scoring.
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10 Jul 2016 21:22

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Flamin wrote:This doesn't have to be such a bad thing for Portugal. Other players who are usually in the shadow, may step up. It wouldn't be the first time for this to happen.

like who? Quaresma? lol.
Nani looked razor sharp next to Ronaldo.
Now Nani is gonna be their playmaker/target man? Dont think he can handle that.

This is a big loss for Portugal.


Eder :D
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10 Jul 2016 21:22

Brullnux wrote:I think Portugal should drop Ronaldo. He is undoubtedly a great player, but IMO he hinders the national side.

By having one of the top 3 players in the world, the team and manager feel they can depend on him. Instead of playing with him, they play for him. Portugal have other very talented players that don't see enough of the ball in dangerous places, because Ronaldo has it and they believe that if Ronaldo has the ball, it is best for the team. Nani doesn't do this as much, however.

Yet, Ronaldo often goes invisible for large periods of important games. During this time against Wales, Portugal were on the back foot, partly because they were 2-0 up, partly because once Ronaldo is not involved the Portuguese team seem to have less of a game plan. See England vs Portugal in early June I think it was. Depending on a single player is bad for the team, like the Italian National Rugby team.

Moreover, he is a bit of a **** towards his team mates. The comments he made in February about his teammates were frankly appealing for a professional sports player, especially when it wasn't really true. A player like Ronaldo IMO is not a team player, but rather an individual using his team for his own success. Once again, he has improved this in this tournament but still feels his skill can justify him being a bit of a primadonna.

Also, I think he is overrated. He is the best in the world - against bad teams. Nobody can match him against bottom 10 sides in La Liga, or even sides outside the top 6. Against low to average sides, he is a beast. Against other top teams and in important games, he disappears comparatively. In most el clasico's he is not that prominent, or as prominent as Messi ok the other side. Against Atletico in the CL he was basically invisible until the penalty at the end. When it comes to big games he is no longer able to control games single handedly, so is not the best player in the world for those games. This year Bale has been better than CR7 in big games. Don't get me wrong, I still believe him to be one of the top 3 players in the world because of his skill and ability to win games single handedly against not so good teams, but not so good that Portugal should just play for him rather than with him.

Lastly, what happens when Ronaldo retires? Does Portugal just go in limbo for a while,vunsure of their identity and what they should do? By dropping Ronaldo, or at least changing the game plan, they will have a couple of years to prepare, while also allowing young players like Renato Sanches and others to blossom, becoming more central roles in the side. Basically, like Spain when they dropped Raul. I know this will not happen, but I'd be interested to see how Portugal do without him.


Stand by this 100%. First 25 minutes with Ronaldo were Portugal's worst, maybe because they were playing with 10 men effectively. They have played better without. Maybe their best of this tournament.
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10 Jul 2016 21:23

Ronaldo finds the lack of spotlight so unbearable, he now playacts manager. What a character
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10 Jul 2016 21:24

SeriousSam wrote:Clattenburg almost single-highhandedly ruined the **** final of the Euro. English Refs at work


Are you Duncan Castles?
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10 Jul 2016 21:25

SeriousSam wrote:Conjecture: Without Clattenburg's blunder that goal would not have happened.

Maybe now Abel Xavier's phantom handball in 2000 has been avenged.
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10 Jul 2016 21:30

ronaldo doing fernando santos work. hilarious LOLOL
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10 Jul 2016 21:33

Congrats to Portugal (and Big Mac!).
Check 'em!
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10 Jul 2016 21:34

Portugal have done what they did against Poland, they seem to be set up for 120 minute matches, sleepwalking through the first 45, but clearly having more energy left over in extra time. France didn't really create anything after the Portuguese scored, or look like it.
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10 Jul 2016 21:34

Looking forward to the media somehow making Ronaldo the centrepiece of Portugal's victory over France
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10 Jul 2016 21:35

Ronaldo deserved that!
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10 Jul 2016 21:35

So **** great!!! **** all the french media being so bad for Portuguese national team, so much arrogance. Screw them and 2000 was finally avenged.
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10 Jul 2016 21:38

SeriousSam wrote:Conjecture: Without Clattenburg's blunder that goal would not have happened.

Remember Howard webb in 2010, nobody cares about that now
Kwibus wrote:So much quesions they have. Answers they will never get.
So why questions? If no answers?
-Kwibus, one of the great philosophers of the 21st century
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10 Jul 2016 21:40

Hahahaha.

Extremely boring tournament but I'm happy with the winner

Hillarious that a team that shouldn't even have gotten past the group stages won the thing. Uefa made an absolute mess of this whole tournament.
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10 Jul 2016 21:40

Congrats to Portugal. Great team effort. No doubt about that. Also, substitution of the tournament by the portugal manager. That changed the match
Kwibus wrote:So much quesions they have. Answers they will never get.
So why questions? If no answers?
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10 Jul 2016 21:42

SeriousSam wrote:Looking forward to the media somehow making Ronaldo the centrepiece of Portugal's victory over France


Lmao

He also had to throw his shirt, must've been hot
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