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Re: Rio Olympics 2016

22 Aug 2016 01:48

As far as I'm aware, Germany had none of their players from the Euros.

Only a handful take it serious. Brazil took it serious for the very fact it's the one competition that they haven't won before. Argentina did so as well in '04 when they won it. Bring their best players and get a gold on the medal table. The European countries don't have a care in the world for it and the qualifying is done from the teams that reach the semis in the U-21 European Championships. Sometimes you might get a play-off match in that tournament as has happened in the past when England get to at least the semis. That's game isn't even a talking point in the media when that competition is on which says it all.

The women's tournament is a bit different as their best teams go. I watched the final of the mens and that was it. No real interest in anything that went on before it.
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22 Aug 2016 10:39

Tricycle Rider wrote:Funny thing about these gorgeous male elite athletes at the Olympics...

Kayakers and canoeists - all arms, no legs.

Cyclists - all legs and no arms!

Put these two body types together and you'll get yourself the perfect male specimen.

(Just kidding, of course. Any discussion of this will have to take place in the Clinic.)


Uhm... you know that's not allowed, right? Seriously! Don't do it! :eek:
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22 Aug 2016 21:48

Feel a little embarrassed about my initial opinions. Rio pulled it off. Brazil's biggest threat was some drunk US swimmers..
The closing ceremonies, more specific the dancers were off the hook outstanding. Bodies of beauty and grace.
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22 Aug 2016 21:51

fatandfast wrote:Feel a little embarrassed about my initial opinions. Rio pulled it off. Brazil's biggest threat was some drunk US swimmers..
The closing ceremonies, more specific the dancers were off the hook outstanding. Bodies of beauty and grace.

Apart from the pool failure(s), it was a success on the whole (sporting wise). The crowds were poor, but that's more than understandable with the tickets so expensive. It will be a massive loss to the country and probably cripple it for a while, but it was definitely a very good effort.
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23 Aug 2016 08:54

USA today published an interesting piece on the Lochte incident. They had a reporter go to the gas station and also talked to the witness who stepped in and translated.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/?platform=hootsuite

From it you can conclude that Lochte's original account of what happened is much closer to the truth that whatever Brazil authorities have been making up the last week.

It also has extra video images that shown their act of 'vandalism'. They basically tore down a loose hanging advertising poster from a wall. It also confirms they didn't trash the bathroom in fact none of them even went anywhere close to the bathroom.

The witness also had an interesting quote that the police chief told him that a drama might've ensued had he not stepped in.

“It was also so fast, and what I wanted was to resolve the situation,” says Deluz, who days later talked to police. “If it hadn't been for wanting to resolve that, if I hadn't involved myself, I thought – the police chief told me, ‘Man, if you hadn't gone there in that moment, a tragedy could have occurred.’ ”


A Brazilian judge also says that the actions by the security guards can be interpreted as robbery.

"If they only asked for the amount of the damage, it may not be a robbery," Damasceno said in a message to USA TODAY Sports. "But if the amount taken is higher than the value of the damages, with the use of a weapon by the 'security,' this is robbery."

Damasceno added that even if someone has the right to receive compensation, that does not mean they can determine the amount on their own and take actions such as drawing guns to collect. Brazilian law rarely allows for a person to obtain such a payment through the use of their own force – such disputes should be mediated by the state, he said.



Lochte might have lied and overexaggerated his story but same can surely be said about Brazil authorities
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Re: Re:

23 Aug 2016 20:34

RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:Funny thing about these gorgeous male elite athletes at the Olympics...

Kayakers and canoeists - all arms, no legs.

Cyclists - all legs and no arms!

Put these two body types together and you'll get yourself the perfect male specimen.

(Just kidding, of course. Any discussion of this will have to take place in the Clinic.)


Uhm... you know that's not allowed, right? Seriously! Don't do it! :eek:
Not sure I understand, but I'm very aware, which is why I had directed any discussion of the aforementioned to the Clinic. But thank you for the heads-up, anyway. :)

Lochte getting dropped like a hot potato by his sponsors, no real surprise there. Maybe he'll finally grow up now, now that his allowance has been cut off.
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Re: Rio Olympics 2016

24 Aug 2016 02:06

I give this Olympics 4/10 - where Sydney was 9 and London was 8.
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Re: Re:

24 Aug 2016 04:06

RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:Funny thing about these gorgeous male elite athletes at the Olympics...

Kayakers and canoeists - all arms, no legs.

Cyclists - all legs and no arms!

Put these two body types together and you'll get yourself the perfect male specimen.

(Just kidding, of course. Any discussion of this will have to take place in the Clinic.)


Uhm... you know that's not allowed, right? Seriously! Don't do it! :eek:

What, cutting people in half?
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Re: Re:

24 Aug 2016 07:36

Tricycle Rider wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:Funny thing about these gorgeous male elite athletes at the Olympics...

Kayakers and canoeists - all arms, no legs.

Cyclists - all legs and no arms!

Put these two body types together and you'll get yourself the perfect male specimen.

(Just kidding, of course. Any discussion of this will have to take place in the Clinic.)


Uhm... you know that's not allowed, right? Seriously! Don't do it! :eek:
Not sure I understand, but I'm very aware, which is why I had directed any discussion of the aforementioned to the Clinic. But thank you for the heads-up, anyway. :)


You can't just take a bunch of people, cut them in half and randomly sew the halves together as best fits your purpose!
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24 Aug 2016 10:41

Billie wrote:USA today published an interesting piece on the Lochte incident. They had a reporter go to the gas station and also talked to the witness who stepped in and translated.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/?platform=hootsuite

From it you can conclude that Lochte's original account of what happened is much closer to the truth that whatever Brazil authorities have been making up the last week.

It also has extra video images that shown their act of 'vandalism'. They basically tore down a loose hanging advertising poster from a wall. It also confirms they didn't trash the bathroom in fact none of them even went anywhere close to the bathroom.

The witness also had an interesting quote that the police chief told him that a drama might've ensued had he not stepped in.

“It was also so fast, and what I wanted was to resolve the situation,” says Deluz, who days later talked to police. “If it hadn't been for wanting to resolve that, if I hadn't involved myself, I thought – the police chief told me, ‘Man, if you hadn't gone there in that moment, a tragedy could have occurred.’ ”


A Brazilian judge also says that the actions by the security guards can be interpreted as robbery.

"If they only asked for the amount of the damage, it may not be a robbery," Damasceno said in a message to USA TODAY Sports. "But if the amount taken is higher than the value of the damages, with the use of a weapon by the 'security,' this is robbery."

Damasceno added that even if someone has the right to receive compensation, that does not mean they can determine the amount on their own and take actions such as drawing guns to collect. Brazilian law rarely allows for a person to obtain such a payment through the use of their own force – such disputes should be mediated by the state, he said.



Lochte might have lied and overexaggerated his story but same can surely be said about Brazil authorities


....so what ?....sounds very much a variation of the "but Billy hit me first" scenario....that might have worked when you were five years old but not now....sorry but you are grasping at very weak straws....

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Re: Re:

24 Aug 2016 10:45

RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:Funny thing about these gorgeous male elite athletes at the Olympics...

Kayakers and canoeists - all arms, no legs.

Cyclists - all legs and no arms!

Put these two body types together and you'll get yourself the perfect male specimen.

(Just kidding, of course. Any discussion of this will have to take place in the Clinic.)


Uhm... you know that's not allowed, right? Seriously! Don't do it! :eek:
Not sure I understand, but I'm very aware, which is why I had directed any discussion of the aforementioned to the Clinic. But thank you for the heads-up, anyway. :)


You can't just take a bunch of people, cut them in half and randomly sew the halves together as best fits your purpose!


....I don't know, medicine, and sports medicine in particular, has come a long way in the last little while....why just last week I got a new brain and I feel great....

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24 Aug 2016 10:50

blutto wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:Funny thing about these gorgeous male elite athletes at the Olympics...

Kayakers and canoeists - all arms, no legs.

Cyclists - all legs and no arms!

Put these two body types together and you'll get yourself the perfect male specimen.

(Just kidding, of course. Any discussion of this will have to take place in the Clinic.)


Uhm... you know that's not allowed, right? Seriously! Don't do it! :eek:
Not sure I understand, but I'm very aware, which is why I had directed any discussion of the aforementioned to the Clinic. But thank you for the heads-up, anyway. :)


You can't just take a bunch of people, cut them in half and randomly sew the halves together as best fits your purpose!


....I don't know, medicine, and sports medicine in particular, has come a long way in the last little while....why just last week I got a new brain and I feel great....

Cheers

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Re: Rio Olympics 2016

24 Aug 2016 16:59

sienna wrote:I give this Olympics 4/10 - where Sydney was 9 and London was 8.

Agree on Sydney, those were one of the best Olympiads ever. A lot of positive atmosphere everywhere. These were better than a 4, but I have a lot of complaints too. London wasn't an 8 to me, that's a bit too high.

Montreal was a very good Olympics in my memory, very competitive. Atlanta one of the worst, if mostly because of the bombing, similar to Munich, which was a tragedy as much as anything.

As to the winter. To me Lillyhammer was the best by far, followed by Insbruck, then Lake Placid. Calgary was good. Vancouver was not nearly so with riots and all, nor was Salt Lake or Nagano (no snow!). Sochi was maybe the worst.
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24 Aug 2016 17:03

Billie wrote:Lochte might have lied and over exaggerated his story but same can surely be said about Brazil authorities

While that is likely true, and he did make a statement that in retrospect I found to be likely truthful and the right thing to do, the fact still remains they were drunk, and judging by their actions after, acted like cliched spoiled American tourists. A behavior that annoys the crap out of everyone, including the majority of American citizens.
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25 Aug 2016 17:32

blutto wrote:....I don't know, medicine, and sports medicine in particular, has come a long way in the last little while....why just last week I got a new brain and I feel great....

Cheers
Brain transplants is where it's at, man! (Just kidding, of course. But this was actually done on a soap opera spoof movie called "Soap Dish".)

On a different note - have to agree with all who said that the Sydney Games were awesome (also personally loved the Sarajevo winter Olympics due to their simplicity), but then I was much younger back then, and with youth comes a very different type of perspective.
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Re: Rio Olympics 2016

26 Aug 2016 00:08

gooner wrote:As far as I'm aware, Germany had none of their players from the Euros.

Only a handful take it serious. Brazil took it serious for the very fact it's the one competition that they haven't won before. Argentina did so as well in '04 when they won it. Bring their best players and get a gold on the medal table. The European countries don't have a care in the world for it and the qualifying is done from the teams that reach the semis in the U-21 European Championships. Sometimes you might get a play-off match in that tournament as has happened in the past when England get to at least the semis. That's game isn't even a talking point in the media when that competition is on which says it all.

The women's tournament is a bit different as their best teams go. I watched the final of the mens and that was it. No real interest in anything that went on before it.

yeah cause ya know those Brazilians are just sub par and all. Dude the arrogance of your post is a bit over the top.
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Re: Rio Olympics 2016

26 Aug 2016 00:15

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gooner wrote:As far as I'm aware, Germany had none of their players from the Euros.

Only a handful take it serious. Brazil took it serious for the very fact it's the one competition that they haven't won before. Argentina did so as well in '04 when they won it. Bring their best players and get a gold on the medal table. The European countries don't have a care in the world for it and the qualifying is done from the teams that reach the semis in the U-21 European Championships. Sometimes you might get a play-off match in that tournament as has happened in the past when England get to at least the semis. That's game isn't even a talking point in the media when that competition is on which says it all.

The women's tournament is a bit different as their best teams go. I watched the final of the mens and that was it. No real interest in anything that went on before it.

yeah cause ya know those Brazilians are just sub par and all. Dude the arrogance of your post is a bit over the top.


I do agree with the point of Gooners post, the mens Olympic football tournament is never really a big deal to the majority of the footballing public, granted Brazil in their home games really wanted to win it for the first time, and they deserved to win as they were the best team.
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Re: Rio Olympics 2016

26 Aug 2016 07:02

Glenn_Wilson wrote:
gooner wrote:As far as I'm aware, Germany had none of their players from the Euros.

Only a handful take it serious. Brazil took it serious for the very fact it's the one competition that they haven't won before. Argentina did so as well in '04 when they won it. Bring their best players and get a gold on the medal table. The European countries don't have a care in the world for it and the qualifying is done from the teams that reach the semis in the U-21 European Championships. Sometimes you might get a play-off match in that tournament as has happened in the past when England get to at least the semis. That's game isn't even a talking point in the media when that competition is on which says it all.

The women's tournament is a bit different as their best teams go. I watched the final of the mens and that was it. No real interest in anything that went on before it.

yeah cause ya know those Brazilians are just sub par and all. Dude the arrogance of your post is a bit over the top.


I don't see how any of that is arrogant. The Brazillians have always wanted to win this for some time to complete the honours they have won in the game. Even more so as they were hosting it.

It's a fact that football fans in Europe were more interested in the start of domestic club football. I don't think there is much prestige in winning this competition when many don't care for it.

Germany's best player in the tournament for instance was Serge Gnabry who can't make the bench at Arsenal. He barely kicked a ball on-loan at West Brom last season. No Draxler, Sane, Can, Kimmich, Weigl, who were all eligible being U-23. Yet this was a side that pushed Brazil to pens. Outside of the Cameroon v Spain final in the 2000 Olympics, I can't think of another game that stands out in football in the Olympics. It gets little attention in the European media.
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26 Aug 2016 11:47

....like a gift that never stops giving looks like the Lochle, errr, Rio Games afterglow is gonna be lighting up the universe for a while longer...

Brazilian police recommended on Thursday that prosecutors present charges against U.S. swimmer Ryan Lochte for a false crime report, Reuters reports


http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/17392115/brazil-police-recommend-us-swimmer-ryan-lochte-charged

....but all is not bad for Mr Lochte, his career as a reality TV star may be moving along nicely....

U.S. Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte might participate in the next edition of ABC's "Dancing with the Stars," sources told ESPN.com.

ABC spokesman George Zaralidis said in a statement that "we do not comment on casting rumors." Representatives for the 32-year-old Lochte aren't saying anything, either.


http://www.espn.com/olympics/swimming/story/_/id/17384513/ryan-lochte-possibility-next-season-dancing-stars

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