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Re: ChrisE RIP.

28 Feb 2017 13:27

Thanks Glenn.

Cheers
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Re: ChrisE RIP.

28 Feb 2017 14:03

Thanks Glenn for sharing this sad news with us. As you know I had contact with Chris both on and off the forums and also considered him a friend. He was the only person I actually met from these and DP forums and we spent a memorable day watching the arrival of the Tour on the Champs Eylsées followed by an evening in a left bank piano bar that left excellent memories. Luckily it was happy hour all evening or it would have ruined me! I know you were good friends and it is always difficult to lose someone who is close and who has shared difficult times. He often asked about my wife, who passed away a few years ago at about the same age as Chris. My heart goes out to his daughter, sisters, parents, and extended family and friends who will certainly miss Chris a lot. We can see from the pictures that he loved life and lived it fully.
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28 Feb 2017 14:30

Semper Fidelis wrote:https://s3.amazonaws.com/csvweb/obituaries/media/5437/228851-1-769436.mp4

This video is from his obituary. Chris of course is the bald guy. :lol:

I'm not sure what Chris would have thought about this video. Knowing him he would have said that is was cheese or Cheesy.

Here is the full obituary and the same video is at the bottom.
http://www.sterlingwhite.com/obituaries/James-Estetter/


Y’all are going to have to forgive my poor writing and grammatical skills. Just bear with me as I try to tell a few things.

Chris and I meet because of cycling. We had been visiting a web site named Daily Peloton Forums. Quite a few folks from that site are here on CN or were. To name a few Patricknd, Python, Race Radio, Susan W., French Fry, Red Lobster, Black Cat. I know there are more but I can’t remember you all.

Since his job and mine were both traveling jobs we had the chance to meet in Houston Texas and then every once in a while our paths would cross on international travel. We would have some crazy internet back and forth with quite a few people from the Daily Peloton forums.

Python was a moderator and since Chris and I did not play by the rules we were often on some type of ban. We would do really stupid and childish things but we took it as entertainment. I think Python thought we were serious and or were nuts! After about 4 or 5 years at the DPF we meet Patrick just during or after his fight with Cancer. Python you were the topic of discussion many times! We just could not help ourselves because you was a serious type and we were clowns.

Somewhere along the line we heard through the grapevine that black cat was on the CN forums. So we decided to take the troll show on the road. We tried our best to find you Python but no avail and suddenly you was here. Maybe it was our trolling that made you come over?

At the same time as our dozen or more sockpuppets were operating here on the Cycling News forums we were also trolling the Toyota Prius forums / Houston City forums / Fishing and Hunting forums. You name the forum and we probably were trolling it. Like I said we were clowns and for us it was entertainment.

A few funny moments were when he was in Algeria and I was in Abu Dhabi we meet up in Bahrain we chose there because they had alcohol and women, but they also had good Hotels with internet that we could use to create sockpuppets. One of the best during that time was Skandar Akbar. Which ran afoul and was banninated. Python knew from the get go that it was either Chris or I that was behind it and I can remember some of the posts he put up about it. The other one was Logical Cranium. In fact at any given time back then there was always another sockpuppet in the chamber.

Eventually I had to beg to stay here at CN because I had worn out my welcome with the clown show. So we decided to shut it down, also due to I was sent on a job for 3 years out of the country. During that time Chris was spending most of his time in Houston.

We went to Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo. That particular trip was hilarious because he took a direct flight from Houston and I was coming in from Japan and my flight came into Mexico. I got stopped by Mexico immigration because I was carrying too much contraband from Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia – In Japan they could care less but Mexico was another story. He was in Ixtapa for a day before I actually made it. When I got there he said … where you been I’ve already made 2 sockpuppets for CN forums and then ….lets go fishing!

Most probably would not know it but at one time US Juniors Chris was a successful cyclist. He raced against folks like Bobby J. and Lance. That was some extent of his knowledge about both of them that he would never divulge on the site. He knew the ins and outs of Southwest Texas cycling.

Just FYI - the video in the first link will download to your computer. The other link is to His obituary and it has the video at the bottom if you care to look.

Thanks blutto and FrenchFry!
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28 Feb 2017 15:40

Thanks for sharing Glenn.
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28 Feb 2017 17:15

Thanks Glenn. Poor Skandar: exiled to the Manama shisha clubs with the Nigerian and Asian women.
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28 Feb 2017 20:16

No easy way to put this out here and I on PM's almost everyone has asked so I will go ahead and say it.

Chris committed suicide. I never seen it coming and wonder if I should have. I have questioned myself over and over with the knowledge that I was with him on a Friday spoke to him on the phone on Saturday and he was gone on the following Tuesday. I just did not have a clue that he was hurting about something. I wish I could have talked him out of it. But I just don't know what all went wrong.

ALL I can say to anyone here is that when you are either hurting or getting down about something - put it out there for people to hear, let your feeling known and maybe someone will be able to help.
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28 Feb 2017 20:17

i appreciate the details glen !

let me assure you, a real-life python is much less serious than the internet image you described. i was touched by seeing chris and his affection for his daughter !
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28 Feb 2017 20:23

python wrote:i appreciate the details glen !

let me assure you, a real-life python is much less serious than the internet image you described. i was touched by seeing chris and his affection for his daughter !

Dude we gave you toooooo much and much more than anyone else. You hung right in there and gave it back!
The last conversation we really had about the old DPF and rational head was about "house" "hombre" etc. We laughed at how you would give us a ban and we would try to troll you.

I'm glad I was able to tell you that it was not as personal as we seemed. I hope you really do understand that.

Yes His daughter his dog and his fishing was what he always talked about. Used to be cycling a good deal but after Lance got busted he sorta lost his fanboy ways and moved on. For him it was still about the 7 wins. :D
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28 Feb 2017 20:25

I think this goes for most suicides: friends and family cannot see it coming.
So you should not pain yourself thinking you should/could've known.
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28 Feb 2017 20:27

Oh man, I'm very sorry to hear that it was suicide. Don't want anybody to be hurting that deeply. Don't want you to be hurting with guilt either, Glenn. Not you nor his family and friends who are probably all thinking the same kind of thoughts. Really sorry about all this.
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28 Feb 2017 20:53

...totally sad hearing about the suicide. at 50... :sad:
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28 Feb 2017 21:55

Sad for everyone. Thanks Glenn for sharing. And don't beat yourself up for not knowing he was hurting. Not your fault.
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01 Mar 2017 00:42

Semper Fidelis wrote:No easy way to put this out here and I on PM's almost everyone has asked so I will go ahead and say it.

Chris committed suicide. I never seen it coming and wonder if I should have. I have questioned myself over and over with the knowledge that I was with him on a Friday spoke to him on the phone on Saturday and he was gone on the following Tuesday. I just did not have a clue that he was hurting about something. I wish I could have talked him out of it. But I just don't know what all went wrong.

ALL I can say to anyone here is that when you are either hurting or getting down about something - put it out there for people to hear, let your feeling known and maybe someone will be able to help.


That hits really close to home right now. And Glenn you probably never would have seen it coming. Nobody did in my family either.
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01 Mar 2017 21:50

Semper Fidelis wrote:No easy way to put this out here and I on PM's almost everyone has asked so I will go ahead and say it.

Chris committed suicide. I never seen it coming and wonder if I should have. I have questioned myself over and over with the knowledge that I was with him on a Friday spoke to him on the phone on Saturday and he was gone on the following Tuesday. I just did not have a clue that he was hurting about something. I wish I could have talked him out of it. But I just don't know what all went wrong.

Oh man, that's harsh. I didn't really know ChrisE because we didn't interact here at CN (and because I mostly lurk), but I do recall his rather very distinctive avatar.

One of my clients (who is in his 90s now) was a teacher way back when, one day he saw one of the students from his school riding by on a bicycle while he was mowing his lawn. He just waived at the kid and went on about his business of mowing his lawn... turns out the kid was on his way to a locker room at the school where they had later found he had hung himself.

To this day my client questions whether there is anything he could have done, or could have said to this kid to prevent the suicide, if only he had quit mowing his lawn.

Condolences, and trust me, there's probably no way you could have known your friend was about to commit suicide.
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02 Mar 2017 17:24

crawfish #ftw
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02 Mar 2017 17:32

red_flanders wrote:Wow, that's some sobering and surprising news. Sorry for your personal loss Glenn. I remember that guy from way back in the Daily Peloton forums, he was always quite a character.

RIP ChrisE. Definitely enjoyed a lot of his posts.

dailypeloton forums rules, until vaughn kept on banning me.

he passed away a few months ago too? #cavalotoso I think was his DP handle.
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02 Mar 2017 19:01

blackcat wrote:crawfish #ftw

CRAWFISH! no doubt. Every-time I hear someone talking about getting Crawfish I think about Chris now!
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02 Mar 2017 21:09

Thanks for the update and details Glenn. Again, sobering. One of my best friends growing up committed suicide, and I never saw it coming. This despite his mother having done the same, and him confiding in me that he was having a hard time. For some reason it just never crossed my mind that it was that bad for him. Maybe I'm just dense or insensitive, but ultimately after wrestling with it for a long time I think it's just hard to imagine that someone you know that well, who seems that fun and full of life will do such a thing. Wish I would have know. Not sure that it would have made a difference.

Cool to see images of him. Not at all what I imagined. All I can see is that avatar...

Sorry again Glenn. Tough stuff. Hang in there.
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03 Mar 2017 01:14

The avatar was pure Chris and effect!

RED and others you guys are the last I would expect to have felt the experience of this.

Honest this is the first person I have ever know to take their own life. It is a struggle but not something I can't handle. SO Far I love life. But my experieces have been much and beyond was I would expect to encounter.
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03 Mar 2017 02:01

That's some poignant stuff you have been posting Glenn. I remember Chris well on here, and now most of the dummy accounts you both set up!! I can't start to understand what you and his immediate family are going through, but all I can say is, that I've known people who have taken their own lives, and I had no idea that was the place they were in. You CANNOT and MUST not have any guilt over Chris's death my friend.
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