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Re: 2017 Masters (golf)

09 Apr 2017 14:36

Tricycle Rider wrote:Anyhoo, don't think Jordan Spieth can repeat and win the ugly green jacket again, but I like the kid, so I'll be rooting for him.

Don't look now, but after a bumpy start, he's two strokes back heading into the final round.

Golf bored me as a kid, but both my dad and uncle played it, and were good at it before I was born. They liked to relax in the recliner and taught me to admire the skill and beauty in it.

I have a lot of respect for Gary Player for two reasons. One is he spoke out against apartheid when a lot of people were just mum about it, and he could have been too coming from a sport dominated by white, often wealthy people. Also, he was the first major golfer to speak out about PED use in golf, to lift that ugly (if obvious) veil, and push for testing, when no one wanted to hear that, and some called him a fool. That took guts.

The only thing that made Tiger interesting was his pumped up, joyful reactions when making a good shot, and the color of his skin in a white man's sport was refreshing. Other than that, the guy sold his soul to Nike, and was a fraud of a human. It bothers me that we still get articles here in the US all the time about him, even though he hasn't played well in years, and his story long ago became irrelevant.
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09 Apr 2017 15:08

From Player, back in 1987:
"In South Africa, we have a terrible system in apartheid... It's almost a cancerous disease... Yes, the system is terrible, but not the people. We have great people in South Africa--black, white, Indian and Chinese. We have an assortment of people, wonderful people."



http://articles.latimes.com/1987-04-24/sports/sp-499_1_gary-player

And from 2007, on PED use in golf:

http://www.golf.com/ap-news/gary-player-alleges-drug-use-golf

I don't want to get too far into the Clinic, thus no quotes here, but here's an article showing Player was right.

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2015/08/05/world-anti-doping-agency-testing-golf-performance-enhancing-drugs-steroids-12319/
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10 Apr 2017 00:25

Ha? Gary Player was known for being racist only changing when the regime was collapsing, or at least what I got from wiki.

''In 1966, he espoused openly racist views and support for the apartheid policies of Hendrik Verwoerd in his book "Grand Slam Golf"

Anyway Sergion finally won <3 Never been happier for golf player winning
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10 Apr 2017 05:37

Congrats for Sergio Garcia. Most deserving winner of a Major after so many near misses.

Yesterday was the day for the nearly men !
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10 Apr 2017 08:38

Even though I backed Rose I couldn't feel bitter about that result. A great final round and glad Sergio has finally won a big one.
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10 Apr 2017 12:16

Big congrats to Sergio from the US. The Masters couldn't have had a finer winner, and he really pulled it together after falling behind, then missing the put on 18. To hold it together and keep cool after that, that took fortitude. Fortitude of a champion.
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10 Apr 2017 14:19

At last Sergio wins a major, maybe Lee Westwood's time is yet to come. (Don't think he's that old yet, 43 is the new 23.)

The US Open comes next, think I like that one better because the course changes every year and it doesn't have that air of exclusivity and snootiness about it like the Masters does. Where the heck are they playing this year, have to look it up... oh, somewhere in Wisconsin.


Interesting stuff about Gary Player, btw., I'm learning new things. :)
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10 Apr 2017 16:42

I too love the fact that the US Open is at different courses every year, and the fact that it's an open, in that anyone who plays well enough can qualify and win (in theory anyway). Having said that, Erin Hills isn't that pretty of a course from what I've seen. Not that they're all going to be Pebble Beach or Bandon Dunes...

Interesting article on Player, including the history of his views on Apartheid. And how he was a polarizing figure in his day.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/golf-the-paradox-that-is-gary-player-1329010.html
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12 Apr 2017 11:07

Glad Garcia got the monkey off his back. Well done.
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13 May 2017 23:23

Not sure why I'm not on top of this one, but the Player's Championship at TPC Sawgrass is supposed to be fun and is currently mid-play!

Especially hole 17 - that is where the golf balls come to die! (Not necessarily with the pros, but each year thousands of balls get fished out of that little pond...)

Shhhhhhh... only golf claps allowed from now on.
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30 May 2017 13:48

The mugshot we've all been waiting for, well, not really... the latest chapter in the downfall of Tiger Woods. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40089225

I'd frankly be surprised if he makes it past the age of fifty, due to many surgeries I wouldn't be shocked if he wasn't hooked on pain meds already. Equally it wouldn't surprise me if one day he accidentally ODs and ends up like Prince or Michael Jackson, sad really.
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30 May 2017 16:32

That thought also immediately hit my mind when I heard about the DUI. That he might have been drunk, but this is possibly a self-medication related, due to likely pain issues, with prescription pain meds behind it. Anyone who's had, or knows someone who has had, back, spinal, or neural pain problems, let alone surgeries, knows this can be a very difficult situation to get through, for anyone.

Tiger's entire story has gone haywire. From hero to zero. Champion, to fraud. Family man, to sleeping with hookers. All the hyped comebacks resulting in setbacks and surgeries, now pain killers and an arrest with an awful mug shot.

It used to be almost fun to point fingers at him and chuckle. Now it's getting too real, and as you say, sad. I hope he finds whatever help he needs, as a human being.
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30 May 2017 20:35

Alpe d'Huez wrote:It used to be almost fun to point fingers at him and chuckle. Now it's getting too real, and as you say, sad. I hope he finds whatever help he needs, as a human being.
I never laughed at him because I think being a pro athlete or a celebrity comes with groupies (the cynic in me thinks many men would not be able to refuse), but I agree, I really hope Tiger Woods has some good people around him right now.

Thanks for changing the title of the thread, btw., don't think I was able to do it myself. And the US Open is coming up, so there will be much more very quiet conversation going on. :)
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14 Jun 2017 23:35

Tomorrow is the first round of the very difficult US Open, serving it this year will be Erin Hills in Wisconsin.

If anything of note happens (providing I don't fall asleep first), I'll be sure to let you know.

And now shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... the pros are merely practicing, but practicing they are, nonetheless.
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16 Jun 2017 19:56

Suppose I should be paying more attention, but so far Erin Hills doesn't look like a very impressive golf course. I realize the golf tournament organizers (or whatever they're called) might have an interest in wanting to showcase pro golf in different parts of the country, but this course doesn't look particularly fetching. Not sure how difficult it is either, -7 played by a pro yesterday sounds a bit too easy. (Not that I would know seeing as I don't play golf, but usually a -1 sounds like much more of a challenge.)

I'll be rooting for my usual menz Jordan Spieth and Paul Casey, would be fun to see Angel Cabrera win, too. It's still way too early in the game though, we'll see who makes the cut after today.
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16 Jun 2017 20:13

Never mind, Angel Cabrera is already a projected cut with +3 today, and he's only on hole 3 so far!

Looks like many of the world's top players will also be going home early, which is what I think makes these majors so unpredictable and fun.
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17 Jun 2017 18:06

Whoah, Zach Johnson seems to have put on a pound, or twenty, since the last time he won a major.

Sorry for this very superficial observation, it's just something I grew up with.
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17 Jun 2017 18:32

Tricycle Rider wrote:Whoah, Zach Johnson seems to have put on a pound, or twenty, since the last time he won a major.

Sorry for this very superficial observation, it's just something I grew up with.


Johnson, an avid christian, thanks his lord and saviour Jesus Christ for putting on the pounds.
I'm currently in jail and am unable to watch the U.S. open, but I heard the fairways are wide enough to accommodate the landing of a 747 airliner. Normally the fairways on a US open set-up are no wider than a bowling alley, so I guess that accounts for the low scores.
Surprised to learn that the likes of Dustin Johnson missed the cut. Guy hits the ball a mile and the course is set up for long hitters.
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17 Jun 2017 18:48

the delgados wrote:I'm currently in jail and am unable to watch the U.S. open,
Can I just back up a bit to this one?

I mean, what the frick, man?

Snedeker has some very interesting shoes going on there, btw.
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