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26 Aug 2017 20:38

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...i will post an interesting analysis/article when i get home.

here we go... go:
The Russian-Saudi rapprochement and Iran
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/08/russian-saudi-rapprochement-iran-170817154056810.html
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...i will post an interesting analysis/article when i get home.

here we go... go:
The Russian-Saudi rapprochement and Iran
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/08/russian-saudi-rapprochement-iran-170817154056810.html


....very interesting moving forward.....but this still may be the important piece on the board for mother Russia......

In other words, Moscow has too much to lose from souring relations with Tehran


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28 Aug 2017 12:35

.....double standards with your latte ?.....

Shia Insurrection in Saudi Arabia; The Battle for Awamiya

by Thomas Mountain

Since May, 2017 an ongoing insurgency has been raging in the Shia heartland town of Awamiya in eastern Saudi Arabia and it’s only thanks to the BBC being allowed to enter the area and film the destruction that the world can see how the House of Saud’s war against the Shia population of Yemen has now expanded to include the Shia population of eastern Saudi Arabia.


Wahabi is as Wahabi does with the crimes committed in the name of Sunni Islam in Yemen now being carried out next door to their cousins, the Saudi Shia. Only the silence of the media lambs internationally alongside the UN, allows this to go unnoticed, for a double standard has long existed when it comes to condemning the crimes of the House of Saud. After the latest round of beheadings of Shia leaders protests turned to gunfire in Awamiya and the fires of armed revolution have been lit for the first time in Saudi Arabia.

The Shia of eastern Saudi Arabia are cousins to their rather unorthodox Houthi neighbors in Yemen with a long history of intermarriage and commerce. The flood of small arms that has plagued Yemen for decades past have over the years made its way into the hands of the Shia population in the midst of the House of Saud’s oil fields. While many waited in vain for the armed struggle to break out in Bahrain instead it exploded in the cultural heartland of this once Persian province and in a much more strategically critical location, in Awamiya and ancient al-Zara.

While still early, for almost 4 months now the armed resistance in Awamiya appears to have fought the Saudi army into a stalemate....


....and this could become interesting....in a the world as we know it shattering interesting.....

If this very first armed uprising is able to maintain their determination to see an end to their oppression by their Wahabi occupiers similar to the relentless fight being waged by the mainly Houthi based resistance in Yemen then all hell could break lose.

Losing control of their oil fields would inevitably bring down the Royal House of Saud, in power since their installation by the British after WWI.

If this armed uprising survives the Saudi Army onslaught and can spread to villages and towns throughout Shia eastern Saudi Arabia and the over 3 million strong Shia people take up arms against the regime similar to their cousins in Yemen those shivers running down the spines of the lords of power east and west could quickly grow to be migraine headaches as a major portion of the world’s oil supplies could be threatened if not cut off
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/28/shia-insurrection-in-saudi-arabia-the-battle-for-awamiya/

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29 Aug 2017 10:49

...some hours ago, the north koreans in their most clear sign of defiance so far fired a missile over japan. it is very significant, since it was preceded by the flamboyant oratory on both side including the trump's 'fire and fury'

those interested can find many links in the western media. invariably, they all contain 2 phrases: 'unprecedented provocation' and 'new escalation'.

it goes without saying, that the continued american military expansion in korea and just started joint border exercises were no more than some sweats offer and a modest attempt at peacy peace.

i will not be surprised if it was a chinese response (of course as always with a mysterious eastern smile) to more crude, one-sided pressure on china in the form of just passed...guess what, yep, new economic sanctions.

that china has its own legitimate security concerns when it proposed limiting the american weaponry and exercises in its back yard, CANT penetrate the arrogant sculls of those who constantly replace diplomacy with 'my dijk is bigger or else'

given the norkor intransigence and the american arrogance, another war may be looming. it will be the 5th or 6th (i lost the count) actual ongoing hot war in which americans (and many more non-americans) will be dying :mad:
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aphronesis wrote:https://www.guernicamag.com/mirjana-karanovic-after-yugoslavia/


She is a very good actress. I saw the movie Esma's Secret. It's worth watching.
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31 Aug 2017 10:48

There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...
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python wrote:There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...


....shhh....you might wake folks up....

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31 Aug 2017 18:04

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python wrote:There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...


....shhh....you might wake folks up....

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<shrug> Third year PDE (Partial Differential Equations) class, we spent time on calculating missile intercept trajectories. The bottom line is that for a given set of speed and maneuverability constraints, even small amounts of evasive movements means a missile can't be intercepted. As in there is no mathematical solution. Can't be done. Sure, it was only a week of course work, but It was still an undergrad course and not exactly classified... Not sure they've changed math since then.

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31 Aug 2017 18:24

blutto wrote:
python wrote:There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...


....shhh....you might wake folks up....

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you know what else is interesting about the american anti-missile impotence now shown in korea and clear for any one ? (i mean those with a modicum of common sense and the elementary reading ability)

get this... the mass duping by the american military of the entire european nations to install the useless american anti-missile gear supposedly aimed at intercepting the ...non-existent iranian threat but in reality a blatant lie aimed at a further american militarization of europe and exposing the europeans (not americans !) to a russian nuclear counter strike. yep, the russians always refused the duping and warned of the counter measures.

the landscape isn't all that gloomy though... like among the regular individuals, the nations seem to differ in their intelligence ( a historical IQ) .... as in he case of poland, the balts etc a low historical IQ ('give us the american missiles and the more the better) or the smart ones like in the case of the czech nation ('no american military bases on on our lands'0

ONE ONLY HAS TO WONDER THE DIFFERENCE among these 'brother' slavic nations..despite the russian invasion of czechoslovakia in 1968, despite the soviet invasion in 1945 pushing the nazis out and establishing a brutal anti-liberal regime no one is demolishing the soviet statutes and no one is willing to become the subjects of a nuclear retaliation.

i lived in prague, understand their language and i always saw them as a reflective and on the average intelligent folks...

in that regard, and this isn't all that well known even in europe, another huge nation is showing the resistance being taken for idiots. the germans and increasingly so !

removing the american nuclear weapons from germany is a front and center issue in the coming german elections. no less that the current fm said they - the nukes in germany - must go.
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31 Aug 2017 23:33

...Pepe on heroin and the CIA ratline and Afghanistan....

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The Persian Gulf harbors an array of extremely compromising secrets. Near the top is the Afghan heroin ratline – with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) positioned as the golden node of a transnational, trillion dollar heroin money laundering operation.


In this 21st century Opium War, crops harvested in Afghanistan are essentially feeding the heroin market not only in Russia and Iran but especially in the US. Up to 93% of the world’s opium comes from Afghanistan.

Contrary to predominant Western perception, this is not an Afghan Taliban operation. The key questions — never asked by Atlanticist circles — are who buys the opium harvests; refines them into heroin; controls the export routes; and then sell them for humongous profit compared to what the Taliban have locally imposed in taxes.

The hegemonic narrative rules that Washington bombed Afghanistan in 2001 in “self-defense” after 9/11; installed a “democratic” government; and after 16 years never de facto left because this is a key node in the Global War on Terror (GWOT), against al-Qaeda and the Taliban alike.

Washington spent over $100 billion in Afghan reconstruction. And, allegedly, $8.4 billion in “counternarcotics programs”. Operation Enduring Freedom — along with the “liberation” of Iraq — have cost an astonishing several trillion dollars. And still the heroin ratline, out of occupied Afghanistan, thrives. Cui bono?

Have a SIGAR

An exhaustive Afghanistan Opium Survey details the steady rise of Afghan opium production as well as the sprawl in production areas; “In 2016, opium production had increased by approximately 25 times in relation to its 2001 levels, from 185 tons in 2001 to 4800 tons in 2016.”

Another exhaustive report issued by the delightful acronym SIGAR (Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction) even hints — discreetly — at the crucial connection; Operation Enduring Freedom feeding America’s heroin epidemic.

Afghanistan is infested by contractors; numbers vary from 10,000 to tens of thousands. Military and ex-military alike can be reasonably pinpointed as players in the heroin ratline — in many cases for personal profit. But the clincher concerns the financing of US intel black ops that should not by any means come under scrutiny by the US Congress.

A Gulf-based intel source with vast experience across the Pentagon-designated “arc of instability” tells the story of his interaction with an Australian intel operative who served in Afghanistan;


“This was about 2011. He said he gave US Army Intelligence and the CIA reports on the Afghan heroin trade — that US military convoys from the ports of Pakistan were being used to ship the heroin out of Afghanistan — much of it was raw opium — for distribution as their backhaul.

No one answered.

He then cornered the key army intelligence operations and CIA at a meeting and asked why no action was taken. The answer was that the goal of the US was winning the hearts and minds of the population and giving them the poppies to grow won their hearts. He was then warned that if he brought this issue up again he would be returned to Australia in a body bag.”

The source is adamant,


“CIA external operations are financed from these profits. The charge that the Taliban was using the heroin trade to finance their operations was a fabrication and a form of misdirection.”

And that brings us to a key motive behind President Trump‘s going against his instincts and accepting a new Afghan surge;


“In the tradition of the opium wars of perfidious Albion in the 19th century, in which opium paid for tea and silk from India, and the taxes on these silk and tea imports financed the construction of the mighty British Navy which ruled the seas, the CIA has built itself up into a most powerful agent based on the trillion dollar heroin trade. It is impossible for Trump to overcome it as he has no allies to tap. The military are working together with the CIA, and therefore the officers that surround Trump are worthless.”

None of this deviates from the CIA’s modus operandi.

Past examples abound. The most notorious concerns the Golden Triangle during the Vietnam war, when the CIA imposed a food-for-opium scheme on Hmong tribesmen from Laos — complete with a heroin refinery at the CIA headquarters in northern Laos and the set up of nefarious Air America to export the opium.

The whole story was exposed on Prof. Alfred McCoy‘s seminal The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia — which drove Langley nuts.

A contemporary counterpart would be a recent book by Italian journalist Enrico Piovesana detailing the New Opium War in Afghanistan.

The return of Air America

A Pakistani intel source with vast Pashtun/ tribal area contacts delves into even more incendiary territory; “According to our best information the CIA has brought in their al-Qaeda-Daesh proxies into Afghanistan to justify the additional American troops”. That would neatly tie in with Trump being cornered by his generals.

And then, there’s Moscow. Last week, the Russian Foreign Ministry was adamantly denouncing “foreign fighters” transferred by “unknown helicopters” as the perpetrators of a massacre of Hazara Shi’ites in a northern Afghanistan province; “It seems that the command of the NATO forces controlling the Afghan sky stubbornly refuses to notice these incidents.”

It does not get more serious than that; Moscow denouncing sectors of the US-trained Afghan Armed Forces side by side with NATO engaged in covert ops supporting jihadis. Russian intel has hinted — discreetly — for quite some time that US intel is covertly sponsoring Daesh — a.k.a. “ISIS Khorasan” — in Afghanistan.

Russian intel is very much aware of the Afghan chapter in the New Great Game. Russian citizens are “collateral damage” of the Afghan heroin ratline as much as Americans. The Russian Foreign Ministry is tracking how tons of chemicals are being illegally imported into Afghanistan from, among others, “Italy, France and the Netherlands”, and how the US and NATO are doing absolutely nothing to contain the heroin ratline.

Well, Air America, after all, never died. It just relocated from the jungles of Southeast Asia to the arid crossroads of Central and South Asia.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghanistan-and-the-cia-heroin-ratline/5606329

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that article unsurprisingly is missing an all-important objective time line and an impartial background.

i will attempt as briefly as possible and only based on the confirmed and verifiable facts to bridge the gap.

lets start with some simple basic tenets like:
a) most countries spy on each other including the closest allies,
b) the united states particularly, as probably many other states, including russia, have interfered both overtly and covertly into each others (and their neighbors) domestic affairs in order to leverage some political advantage
3) most govs despite being involved in this murky and dirty activities will deny doing anything of sorts

so, the current tit for tat btwn russia and the us isn't anything unheard of nor did it start with anything russia did that the us had done to russia, including multiple well-documented regime changes of russia-friendly govs etc.

what makes the latest round of tit for tat unique is the absolute fury and indignation with which the american elites in both parties reacted.

it is time now to go on record that i do not buy the kremlin assertions that they had nothing to do with the last american elections. something took place. I have no idea what exactly. perhaps some facilitation of anti-clinton initiatives which - and lets be honest here - they may have considered, like hundreds of millions of americans, asians and some europeans, more dangerous. i also dont believe for a second the 'russians installed trump'. trump is a purely american phenomena indicative of the deep fissures within and ills of the american political system if not the entire society in general

even if so, the russians only took a sentence, not even a page, from the america's own playbook on how to subvert other natons.

yet, 'they stole our democracy' cries and screams and the non-stop sequence of russia investigations has practically paralyzed the all-important institution of the us presidency.

in large part due to this self-inflicted paralysis where russia is just a thin cover-up for the trivial inter partisan feuds, america has lost allies, reputation, credibility, wealth...

that the mutually pissed off and righteous elites are blind to the nation destruction is not any longer surprising, but where are the simple, common-sense american folks ? why dont they reflect on the double standard american politicos apply to america and expects of others ? why america can interfere in russia, change their friendly neighbor regimes etc and why it is unimaginable someone can respond with the SAME ?

but back to the current tit for tat time line and facts... when obama expelled 35 russian 'spies' with this loud self indignant cries, he ignored the very american spies in the moscow embassy doing....spying.

here are the dry numbers we learned afterwards - just prior to the obama order the us had 1211 diplomatic staff in russia while hosting only 455 russians. 3 times as much !. consequently, in all probability, the us spies aka diplomats in russia were much more numerous. even then, the russians took 8 months NOT responding. when the congress imposed the new sanctions, they asked for a diplomatic parity. that is - 455 vs 455.

yesterday, the us escalated the tit for tat. that was expected. the ugly part was the state department explanation compleely ignoring who started it, why and a rather long patience the russians demonstrated before acting.

to me, this latest tit for tat indicates how far the american elites (and probably most americans) have fallen in their non-critical in fact hypocritical vew of the rest of the world.
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python wrote:

that article unsurprisingly is missing an all-important objective time line and an impartial background.

i will attempt as briefly as possible and only based on the confirmed and verifiable facts to bridge the gap.

lets start with some simple basic tenets like:
a) most countries spy on each other including the closest allies,
b) the united states particularly, as probably many other states, including russia, have interfered both overtly and covertly into each others (and their neighbors) domestic affairs in order to leverage some political advantage
3) most govs despite being involved in this murky and dirty activities will deny doing anything of sorts

so, the current tit for tat btwn russia and the us isn't anything unheard of nor did it start with anything russia did that the us had done to russia, including multiple well-documented regime changes of russia-friendly govs etc.

what makes the latest round of tit for tat unique is the absolute fury and indignation with which the american elites in both parties reacted.

it is time now to go on record that i do not buy the kremlin assertions that they had nothing to do with the last american elections. something took place. I have no idea what exactly. perhaps some facilitation of anti-clinton initiatives which - and lets be honest here - they may have considered, like hundreds of millions of americans, asians and some europeans, more dangerous. i also dont believe for a second the 'russians installed trump'. trump is a purely american phenomena indicative of the deep fissures within and ills of the american political system if not the entire society in general

even if so, the russians only took a sentence, not even a page, from the america's own playbook on how to subvert other natons.

yet, 'they stole our democracy' cries and screams and the non-stop sequence of russia investigations has practically paralyzed the all-important institution of the us presidency.

in large part due to this self-inflicted paralysis where russia is just a thin cover-up for the trivial inter partisan feuds, america has lost allies, reputation, credibility, wealth...

that the mutually pissed off and righteous elites are blind to the nation destruction is not any longer surprising, but where are the simple, common-sense american folks ? why dont they reflect on the double standard american politicos apply to america and expects of others ? why america can interfere in russia, change their friendly neighbor regimes etc and why it is unimaginable someone can respond with the SAME ?

but back to the current tit for tat time line and facts... when obama expelled 35 russian 'spies' with this loud self indignant cries, he ignored the very american spies in the moscow embassy doing....spying.

here are the dry numbers we learned afterwards - just prior to the obama order the us had 1211 diplomatic staff in russia while hosting only 455 russians. 3 times as much !. consequently, in all probability, the us spies aka diplomats in russia were much more numerous. even then, the russians took 8 months NOT responding. when the congress imposed the new sanctions, they asked for a diplomatic parity. that is - 455 vs 455.

yesterday, the us escalated the tit for tat. that was expected. the ugly part was the state department explanation compleely ignoring who started it, why and a rather long patience the russians demonstrated before acting.

to me, this latest tit for tat indicates how far the american elites (and probably most americans) have fallen in their non-critical in fact hypocritical vew of the rest of the world.


I tend to agree about Trump. He had the right opposition at the right time with the stench about Clinton. Rarely have two candidates been so loathed by the opposition voters. Trump tapped into something but whatever it was it seems some of the people that voted for Trump have already had enough of him. As for the Russians I tend to agree that something was going on whether it was just spam attacks on Clinton or fake news who knows and I have doubts that the enquiry will get the full story of what happened. Although some government officials have already said that certain events can be traced back to the Kremlin or people working for the Kremlin. Putin has never said that Russians had nothing to do with it, he said the Russian government had nothing to do with it. Comey's comment about Clinton before the election did not help her either. Clinton was already damaged goods before outside sources got involved. Many political commentators got the result wrong the same way they also got Brexit wrong and the subsequent UK election. But as Trump has shown, getting elected is the easy part, getting things done and being an effective president is something else entirely. Some people from his inner circle don't even think he will complete his first term for various reasons.
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just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:
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python wrote:just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

6.3 magnitude apparently, but I don't know what that means. I'd rather he'd stop as it is starting to get a bit worrying.
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python wrote:just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

6.3 magnitude apparently, but I don't know what that means. I'd rather he'd stop as it is starting to get a bit worrying.

for all his stupidity, the fat face is right with one thing - it take 2 to tango. right ?

did the us ever stop the military threats, its all sorts of near-border war exercises, the nuclear bomber overflights and piles of war gear in japan and s. korea ?

ask the chinese for an answer. i dont blame the crazy fat face for knowing too well what happened to saddam and qaddafi when they succombed to the us threats...

they are dead, hundreds of thousand of their country men are dead and their countries are still in the mids of civil wars started by the us.

the madmen has good memory...
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All very true, but Saddam and Gaddafi never threatened the USA so. Kim Jong is far crazier than either of them ever were. The problem is that nobody seems to know what to do with this issue. Most (not all) don't want an actual war, but Kim Jong has no reason to stand down any more - he knows the USA will never believe him and will try to oust him as soon as Kim submits and gets rid of his nuclear arsenal, as you say.
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python wrote:just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

6.3 magnitude apparently, but I don't know what that means. I'd rather he'd stop as it is starting to get a bit worrying.


It means much bigger than the bombs dropped in WWII.
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