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Re: World Politics

19 May 2017 15:32

Semper Fidelis wrote:
Bustedknuckle wrote:
Trump was elected with the support of the U.S. military.


What does this mean? Like during the MayDay military parade, the 'powerful' generals and admirals are positioned on the proper sides and proper distance from Adolf?

No Such thing as 'official' military support for any candidate in the US. Each JCS member didn't go into a room and pledge loyalty of themselves or their service or any crap like that. Not like China..

What is the context of your quote? "Trump was elected with the support of the U.S. military."
You are correct that No official military support but if this was only trying to state that the majority of the military might have voted for copperhead then it could be something different than what you are complaining about.

Sometimes a little context might help. I tried to find a post here that has that in it but could not. Maybe I missed it.


....don't know if this helps...

Military Poll: Troops Backing Trump By 3-to-1 Margin Over Clinton


http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/poll-military-back-Donald-Trump/2016/11/02/id/756721/

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19 May 2017 15:33

Is the military allowed to make any political statements or endorse any candidates in the US?

Genuine question
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20 May 2017 17:47

Brullnux wrote:Is the military allowed to make any political statements or endorse any candidates in the US?

Genuine question


Unofficially, certainly. Endorse, nope, frowned upon bigly.
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Re: World Politics

20 May 2017 17:49

blutto wrote:
Semper Fidelis wrote:
Bustedknuckle wrote:
Trump was elected with the support of the U.S. military.


What does this mean? Like during the MayDay military parade, the 'powerful' generals and admirals are positioned on the proper sides and proper distance from Adolf?

No Such thing as 'official' military support for any candidate in the US. Each JCS member didn't go into a room and pledge loyalty of themselves or their service or any crap like that. Not like China..

What is the context of your quote? "Trump was elected with the support of the U.S. military."
You are correct that No official military support but if this was only trying to state that the majority of the military might have voted for copperhead then it could be something different than what you are complaining about.

Sometimes a little context might help. I tried to find a post here that has that in it but could not. Maybe I missed it.


....don't know if this helps...

Military Poll: Troops Backing Trump By 3-to-1 Margin Over Clinton


http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/poll-military-back-Donald-Trump/2016/11/02/id/756721/

Cheers


a poll that says who voted for whom isn't quite the same as 'trump elected with the support of the US military'.

trump was elected with the support from the American Nazi Party and the KKK also...doh!!
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20 May 2017 23:07

the biggest latest news, that the iranians just reelected a moderate president committed to a dialogue with the west, had of course gone largely under-reported...such a commitment, indicative is the seriousness of it, would not be possible w/o the quiet endorsement from the supreme leader of iran...we now need to see if the trump mindset and policies are anything less (or more) than the zionist lobby in washington is willing to tolerate.

but my real reason for logging in was this article:

China killed CIA sources, hobbled U.S. spying from 2010 to 2012: NYT
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-espionage-idUSKCN18G0UM

it appears that the chinese are totally stupid...really....

to kill off and dismantle the american cia democracy-minded and freedom-driven noblest of the noble spies is going to throw china back to the dark ages.

much more, it risks china to replace the russia-gate as a country not willing to accept the only reality allowed...

the self-endowed, divine right to spy on and if necessary (here's fork u snowden)...if required to hack the freedom delinquents...

i tell u, the chinese would be very stupid, to convert russia-gate into a china-gate...
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20 May 2017 23:11

Might put you and a few others out of work unless you move quickly.
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21 May 2017 06:23

The US should stop messing about and just invade China and Iran already. Neither of them even has an army.
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Re: World Politics

21 May 2017 10:31

Interesting to note that new President Macron and PM Édouard Philippe renamed the "Ministry of Defence", "Ministry of the Armies". First time since 1974. First time called Ministry of Defence in 1947. Is it a signal of what the new French foreign policy would be? The former Minister of Defence sent a helicopter carrier in the Corean Sea. He's now the Foreign Minister. Besides the new Minister of the Armies is a die-hard Europeist Sylvie Goulard who refuses debates with "eurosceptics" because she's so deep in the "dogma".
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21 May 2017 11:29

Dan2016 wrote:The US should stop messing about and just invade China and Iran already. Neither of them even has an army.



I hope that was sarcasm.
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21 May 2017 11:40

BullsFan22 wrote:
Dan2016 wrote:The US should stop messing about and just invade China and Iran already. Neither of them even has an army.



I hope that was sarcasm.


....nope that is as reported last week by both the New York Times and the Washington Post....so its officially truer than true....

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Re: World Politics

21 May 2017 11:58

Echoes wrote:Interesting to note that new President Macron and PM Édouard Philippe renamed the "Ministry of Defence", "Ministry of the Armies". First time since 1974. First time called Ministry of Defence in 1947. Is it a signal of what the new French foreign policy would be? The former Minister of Defence sent a helicopter carrier in the Corean Sea. He's now the Foreign Minister. Besides the new Minister of the Armies is a die-hard Europeist Sylvie Goulard who refuses debates with "eurosceptics" because she's so deep in the "dogma".



Wow. Just read a little about her. She should be the poster woman of Globalism! Straight out of the Henry Kissinger school of thought.
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21 May 2017 20:58

'..and who are you' :) :D
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Yesterday 11:01

...just had 2 hearty laffs after digesting a couple news stories this morn. one laff was a genuine grin and another was sarcastic

the real laff was about the BIG news that china begged america for 100 more days in which it was committing itself to straighten its norkor child or america will act unilaterally. this 'news' sounded too submissive and convenient for the chinese ways i came to know and respect. besides the 100 days trial smells too american. so, as is my usual practice, i checked the alternatives sources. in this case it was the cctv chinese global portal.

not a peep in ANY of the languages they broadcast and which i understand ! sure, the slow chinese may be a tad behind the news cycle, but i doubt they are. more like another fake news manufactured to both justify more aggression (when and if required) while looking to overcome the domestic polls and political struggles.

the sarcasm was of course about trump in israel and the palestinian peace...i was watching france24 as bibi and trump were engaged in a live flood of mutual praises and compliments. it was a porno political intercourse in public. then suddenly trump let one of those bombs out - he was absolutely sure that the israeli-palestinian conflict will be solved.

as if the palestinians must swallow his promises to move the embassy to Jerusalem, stop pretesting the illegal construction of more settlements, stop seeing a concentration camp that the gazan palestinians live in, stop protesting the daily human rights violations..

this latter one is either a poorly written comedy or an actual case when masters seriously consider the palestinians lowly fools and idiots, not much unlike the american indians at the time, ready to be sold for trinkets. or else.. :o
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Re: World Politics

Yesterday 12:14

....a seemingly good article on the recent defeat of the concept of France in the recent "French" elections....could quote most of the article but was especially enamoured with the following....cause it contained the bolded...

The fact that Paris voted 90% for Macron is natural, considering that real estate prices have pushed the working class out of the capital, whose population is now overwhelmingly what is called “bobo” – the bohemian bourgeoisie, many of whom are employed in various branches of the dominant human rights ideology fabrication business: journalists, professors, teachers, consultants, the entertainment industry. In these milieux, hardly anyone would even dare speak a positive word about Marine Le Pen.


...seems in Europe elections are being fought less along the lines of class but more along the lines of consumer choices....latte drinkers vs non-latte drinkers....nominally a pseudo crypto "anti-facist" front vs a strawman ghost of facism.....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/22/all-power-to-the-banks-the-winners-take-all-regime-of-emmanuel-macron/

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