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14 Feb 2018 10:10

Singer01 wrote:Can't get that excited about it, my rule for whether a sport should be in the Olympics is 'is it the pinnacle of their career'?


well, even Hirscher said a win in Schladming would be more important than Gold in Pyeongchang. So what's left then?
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14 Feb 2018 10:56

Singer01 wrote:Frenzel just loves the olympics, he's been relatively **** this year, then comes in and wins his 5th gold in a row. White wins the half pipe to the surprise of few. Can't get that excited about it, my rule for whether a sport should be in the Olympics is 'is it the pinnacle of their career'?


Do the olympic road race and time trial pass this test?
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14 Feb 2018 11:30

Armchair cyclist wrote:
Singer01 wrote:Frenzel just loves the olympics, he's been relatively **** this year, then comes in and wins his 5th gold in a row. White wins the half pipe to the surprise of few. Can't get that excited about it, my rule for whether a sport should be in the Olympics is 'is it the pinnacle of their career'?


Do the olympic road race and time trial pass this test?

No. Tennis, golf, road cycling, football etc can all do one. I'll still happy to watch, but not able to care that much.
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14 Feb 2018 12:08

jmdirt wrote:I enjoy's pretty much every event, in moderation of course. I only watch most of these events every four years so its nice. I disagree about the 'flips and tricks' because the games have evolved and need to if they want to stay relevant with the youngsters. ie: Red Gerard winning the USA's first gold!
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14 Feb 2018 14:25

Armchair cyclist wrote:
Singer01 wrote:Frenzel just loves the olympics, he's been relatively **** this year, then comes in and wins his 5th gold in a row. White wins the half pipe to the surprise of few. Can't get that excited about it, my rule for whether a sport should be in the Olympics is 'is it the pinnacle of their career'?


Do the olympic road race and time trial pass this test?

Most prestigious one day road win imo

Most prestigious tt too.

OBV TDF is bigger though
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14 Feb 2018 14:56

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Singer01 wrote:Frenzel just loves the olympics, he's been relatively **** this year, then comes in and wins his 5th gold in a row. White wins the half pipe to the surprise of few. Can't get that excited about it, my rule for whether a sport should be in the Olympics is 'is it the pinnacle of their career'?


Do the olympic road race and time trial pass this test?

Most prestigious one day road win imo

Most prestigious tt too.

OBV TDF is bigger though

It can seem bigger just due to the infrequency. I've not heard of pro's expressing this though.
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Re: 2018 Winter Olympics, PyeongChang

14 Feb 2018 19:35

I really hope the weather in pyeongchang finally gets better. Only one alpine skiing event has taken place so far, and all ski jumping and nordic combined even have been heavily influenced by the wind
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14 Feb 2018 21:04

Gigs_98 wrote:I really hope the weather in pyeongchang finally gets better. Only one alpine skiing event has taken place so far, and all ski jumping and nordic combined even have been heavily influenced by the wind
Speaking of alpine - is it true the Olympic combined may be on the chopping block because skiers are so highly specialized now that they don't care to do both? Slalom and downhill I mean. (Apologies, I'm a bit out of the loop.)
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15 Feb 2018 06:23

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Gigs_98 wrote:I really hope the weather in pyeongchang finally gets better. Only one alpine skiing event has taken place so far, and all ski jumping and nordic combined even have been heavily influenced by the wind
Speaking of alpine - is it true the Olympic combined may be on the chopping block because skiers are so highly specialized now that they don't care to do both? Slalom and downhill I mean. (Apologies, I'm a bit out of the loop.)


The FIS has decided that there won't be any more combined events in the World Cup on from 2020/21. So I guess it's likely to drop out of the Olympic program as well, yeah
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15 Feb 2018 09:53

Apparently, Jillery Anema, the coach of Jorrit and Heather Bergsma got a warning for attempted match fixing back in Sochi. He begged the Dutch pursuit team to not embarras the French team cause he feared they'd lose sponsorship and in return the Dutch would get a guaranteed win
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15 Feb 2018 10:09

The British skeleton athletes (not talking about Froome here - skeleton as a discipline) are wearing suits that would make them a second faster compared to the suits of their competitors. Many believe these suits are not according to regulations, but the IBSF has given them the go-ahead anyway. Is it official British policy to always look for the edge of what is allowed (and sometimes go over it)?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/winter-olympics/2018/02/14/team-gb-defend-winter-olympics-skeleton-suits-amid-questions/

I don't like it much. The athlete should always come before the tech - as big, rich countries will only extend their logistical advantage otherwise.
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15 Feb 2018 10:47

Jagartrott wrote:The British skeleton athletes (not talking about Froome here - skeleton as a discipline) are wearing suits that would make them a second faster compared to the suits of their competitors. Many believe these suits are not according to regulations, but the IBSF has given them the go-ahead anyway. Is it official British policy to always look for the edge of what is allowed (and sometimes go over it)?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/winter-olympics/2018/02/14/team-gb-defend-winter-olympics-skeleton-suits-amid-questions/

I don't like it much. The athlete should always come before the tech - as big, rich countries will only extend their logistical advantage otherwise.

Come on, it never even snows in the UK. Give us a break.
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15 Feb 2018 13:07

First speed skating gold medal won by a non-Dutch person :eek:

Although he's actually Dutch and spent a large part of his career skating for the Netherlands, but because his father has a dual Dutch/Canadian nationality, being born in Canada, he could get a Canadian nationality and switch to skating for Canada in order to avoid the necessity of having to peak early because you have to compete against other super high level skaters to even qualify for the WC and OG if you're Dutch. :p

Very disappointing race for Kramer though. Buckled under the pressure? Olympic gold at the 10km will now forever remain a striking hiatus in his otherwise ridiculous palmares.
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15 Feb 2018 13:48

I'm so sad and tilted right now
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16 Feb 2018 12:17

Lose some, win more. Visser grabs gold on the 5000m
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17 Feb 2018 08:09

Tricycle Rider wrote:
[url=<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2224922#p2224922</span>]Gigs_98[/url] wrote:I really hope the weather in pyeongchang finally gets better. Only one alpine skiing event has taken place so far, and all ski jumping and nordic combined even have been heavily influenced by the wind
Speaking of alpine - is it true the Olympic combined may be on the chopping block because skiers are so highly specialized now that they don't care to do both? Slalom and downhill I mean. (Apologies, I'm a bit out of the loop.)

Yeah, unfortunately that's true. Over the last decade basically all male alpine combined specialists have retired. Kostelic, Miller, Raich, Zurbriggen, a few other decent skiers for this discipline like walchhofer, schönfelder,... are also all gone and guys like ligety and svindal are still skiing but have specialized. The only one who still cares for combineds outside of major events is alexis pinturault but he despite caring for the discipline isn't very good at it. Hirscher basically only participates at combineds at major events and the only three times he did that he always beat pinturault.
It's kind of logical they don't want to make events nobody cares about. The problem is that the women have to pay for the men not caring about the discipline, since on the womens side there are still more then enough skiers who would be great in combineds. Shiffrin, holdener, gisin to only name a few.

Maybe you could add ester ledecka to the list however she would have to make the slalom with her snowboard.
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17 Feb 2018 09:23

Thought you folks might find this interesting:

https://rouleur.cc/editorial/snow-relation-cycling-ties-winter-olympics/

Long time since I watched skiing or any Winter Olympics sport. Hermann Maier was the man I always tuned in to see.
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17 Feb 2018 09:55

Norway **** up the relay again.
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17 Feb 2018 09:57

Singer01 wrote:Norway **** up the relay again.

and it's priceless :D
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17 Feb 2018 09:59

Does anyone know why Weng didn't race? i know she wasn't in top form but i refuse to accept she couldn't have done better than that.

Having said that, if Haga gets them back into this the 4 leading teams could all handover at roughly the same time making for an excellent finale.
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