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08 Dec 2010 10:55

Moondance wrote:What would he do with his remaining 3000 points?


Oooh, scathing.............but:D.

Moondance wrote:7500 is more than enough.


Picked 5 so far. No GT contender, but almost half the cash spent.
Still, I always like to do a bit of bargain basement shopping.
Might even have to look at the odd BMC rider.:p
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08 Dec 2010 11:07

So how much will pelizotti cost cause i can't seem to find him on CQ rankings?
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08 Dec 2010 11:16

who dat wrote:So how much will pelizotti cost cause i can't seem to find him on CQ rankings?


Pellizotti has 60.. I picked him myself because he wasn't convicted of anything and so retroactively his suspension was unjustified.

We might need an executive ruling from Hugo on the price of Pellizotti, because his is a rather unusual case.
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08 Dec 2010 11:17

mellow Velo 9/25 of my riders are from BMC!

Just completed my team with 13 CQ dollars left over!
diggercuz wrote:second post ever after reading the forum for the last few years and one thing i must say, ACF94 is probably the most intelligent poster here, never biased to BMC or Cadel, and never gets worked up over anything.
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08 Dec 2010 11:18

Moondance wrote:Pellizotti has 60.. I picked him myself because he wasn't convicted of anything and so retroactively his suspension was unjustified.

We might need an executive ruling from Hugo on the price of Pellizotti, because his is a rather unusual case.


Leave his points at 60. It is a bargain pick up.
diggercuz wrote:second post ever after reading the forum for the last few years and one thing i must say, ACF94 is probably the most intelligent poster here, never biased to BMC or Cadel, and never gets worked up over anything.
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08 Dec 2010 11:23

auscyclefan94 wrote:Leave his points at 60. It is a bargain pick up.


Agree may have to make a couple of changes to my team to fit him in. But definitely worth it WHAT a bargain!
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08 Dec 2010 11:30

Well if everyone puts him in, which is what people will do, then nobody will gain any points over anyone else because eeryone has him. If people were smart they would keep their bargains to themselves.
diggercuz wrote:second post ever after reading the forum for the last few years and one thing i must say, ACF94 is probably the most intelligent poster here, never biased to BMC or Cadel, and never gets worked up over anything.
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08 Dec 2010 11:44

yeah i guess but this one is probably the most obvious
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08 Dec 2010 12:35

Wouldn't it make sense to have a minimum worth of, say, 100CQ$? That way anyone has to choose which of the less fortunate one will choose, instead of adding them all.
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08 Dec 2010 12:38

Moondance wrote:Well, Ricco and Rasmussen could be kept. They'd have the CQ scores they accumulated this year.

But I agree with Ferminal. Guys like Di Luca or Rebbelin shouldn't be 'free'


So as long as they got point this year it's fine? Good to know

God, I'm really scraping the bottom now to round out my team. I'm at 18 and I already got more than 7000 points

Allright, my excell was completely screwing up, seeing as that now I count it all up manually, I only have about 3500 point for 26 riders :p

I can adjust a whole hell of a lot :p
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08 Dec 2010 13:36

Could you please post the official cost for all the riders that are considered returning dopers etc so that there is no confusion over costs?

Also what is the last word on team size? 25-33? 25-28? or what?
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08 Dec 2010 13:39

Well, I already sent my roster. 25 riders. Only dodgy rider in regards to his price is Valjavec, I think.
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08 Dec 2010 13:41

I sent my team as well 32 riders, with only 3 dodgy riders, well you could consider them dodgy, but they all have rankings
Anyway, 7485 points, it was actually very hard to get close to the set amount of points
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08 Dec 2010 14:55

Can I suggest that the maximum number of riders should be 30. This way it's exactly like the real pro tour (or pro teams whatever) where you have to have between 25 and 30 riders.
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08 Dec 2010 15:02

Ferminal wrote:If they have had half a season comeback I'm sure it would be ok. But imagine if Pellizotti was 60 points, he would be in every single team.

On my first go I managed to get 30 riders at just over 8,500, so it shouldn't be too hard cutting the additional 1,000 off.


I was only kidding. But if you look at the one MR tibbs done i was like the only person to use all the dopers (even though they were absolutely free)

Lots of people forget about the dopers = free points for me. + those of us who remember 2008 should be rewarded for it. ;)

Just to be 100% sure, this is what we base our numbers on ?
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/cqRankingRider.asp?current=1
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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08 Dec 2010 15:09

I still like the suggestion of a 100 point minimum. Rules out a few (non-sanctioned) people on my shortlist but i do think that rider selection should be more of challenge than picking returning dopers or perenially injured riders who can do very well when healthy.

On second thought i think it would make sense to include riders with less than 100 points as long as riders are U23
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08 Dec 2010 15:16

roundabout wrote:I still like the suggestion of just a single rider with less than 100 points. Rules out a few (non-sanctioned) people on my shortlist but i do think that rider selection should be more of challenge than picking returning dopers or perenially injured riders who can do very well when healthy.


That's not fair, I got a bunch of riders under the 100 points and only 2 or so could really be called having doped. Also the injured riders, if you take them, you take a gamble and they are a bargain, to punish someone to find such a bargain is just not fair
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08 Dec 2010 15:18

See the edit. And it's just a suggestion as i wouldn't really want people to redo their teams if they have already submitted them.
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08 Dec 2010 15:43

I don't see the point in not having riders under 100 points. The average points for a rider if you have 30 of them is 250 so that leaves it rather tight if you can't also pick some cheap riders. There are lots of riders that are above 23 and that wasn't doping or injured who could fit well into a team like this.

I think the solution of using a dopers last active year is a better solution.
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08 Dec 2010 16:15

teaqm submited.

great game and the rules seem very good. i took a few chances with my team but i am hoping that they will pay for themselves
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