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15 Jan 2017 12:17

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Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game

06 Feb 2017 07:06

Well, I'm in 5th place after two years, but only 17 points out of a podium spot (not including January scores of course). Here's my team:

BOUDAT Thomas
CHEVRIER Cl?ment
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian
HNIK Karel
K?NG Stefan
LATOUR Pierre-Roger
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
LUDVIGSSON Fredrik
MOHORIC Matej
MULLEN Ryan
NAESEN Oliver
POWER Robert
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
RUFFONI Nicola
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VERVAEKE Louis
ZEPUNTKE Ruben

So far, the only ones to really achieve superstar status are Gaviria, Latour, Lopez (and, points-wise if not profile-wise, Naesen). MADRAZO and Joelsim both have all of these; Hugo is missing Naesen and Jakob doesn't have Latour.

The second tier of guys who I think can still possibly make a breakthrough this year are Kung, Mohoric, Power, Ruffoni and Vervaeke... and maybe I can include Mullen there too, although that is just based on his TT at the Worlds last year. Unfortunately, ahead of me Hugo has ALL of them, Joelsim has all save Mullen and Mohoric and MADRAZO has all save Ruffoni and Vervaeke. Jakob and I have very different teams from this point on, so if I do well I can move up a spot there. That's not much advantage from the guys who are in the tier where I think they've underperformed their talent so far.

So I guess I'm gonna have to depend on guys like Ludvigsson, Hnik and Zepuntke to, uhhh... wait, where are they riding? Hmm, this might not be the game for me to overcome a 1000 point deficit. Oh well, at least I don't have Campbell Flakemore.
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Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game

07 Feb 2017 01:18

skidmark wrote:Well, I'm in 5th place after two years, but only 17 points out of a podium spot (not including January scores of course). Here's my team:

BOUDAT Thomas
CHEVRIER Cl?ment
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian
HNIK Karel
K?NG Stefan
LATOUR Pierre-Roger
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
LUDVIGSSON Fredrik
MOHORIC Matej
MULLEN Ryan
NAESEN Oliver
POWER Robert
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney
RUFFONI Nicola
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VERVAEKE Louis
ZEPUNTKE Ruben

So far, the only ones to really achieve superstar status are Gaviria, Latour, Lopez (and, points-wise if not profile-wise, Naesen). MADRAZO and Joelsim both have all of these; Hugo is missing Naesen and Jakob doesn't have Latour.

The second tier of guys who I think can still possibly make a breakthrough this year are Kung, Mohoric, Power, Ruffoni and Vervaeke... and maybe I can include Mullen there too, although that is just based on his TT at the Worlds last year. Unfortunately, ahead of me Hugo has ALL of them, Joelsim has all save Mullen and Mohoric and MADRAZO has all save Ruffoni and Vervaeke. Jakob and I have very different teams from this point on, so if I do well I can move up a spot there. That's not much advantage from the guys who are in the tier where I think they've underperformed their talent so far.

So I guess I'm gonna have to depend on guys like Ludvigsson, Hnik and Zepuntke to, uhhh... wait, where are they riding? Hmm, this might not be the game for me to overcome a 1000 point deficit. Oh well, at least I don't have Campbell Flakemore.


You almost got me worried there saying I had Mullen and not Vervaeke, compared to Joelsim. But as I suspected it is the other way around, so with Vervaekes great start to the season, and now even also one of my worst picks Senni starting to show a little of the talent he showed as u23 and getting some points things look pretty good for me. But so much can still happen and for instance the mentioned Mullen could still also be great and help Joelsim threathen me and still its too early to write the rest of you off yet. You also have Chevrier, that used to be a great talent, and who knows if he suddenly explodes too, after his very slow progress so far as a pro. Besides Joelsim Jakob is perhaps the most dangerous though with riders like McLay and maybe Looij that could potentially score high this year.
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Re: 2015-17 Emerging Riders CQ game

07 Feb 2017 04:52

MADRAZO wrote:
You almost got me worried there saying I had Mullen and not Vervaeke, compared to Joelsim. But as I suspected it is the other way around, so with Vervaekes great start to the season, and now even also one of my worst picks Senni starting to show a little of the talent he showed as u23 and getting some points things look pretty good for me. But so much can still happen and for instance the mentioned Mullen could still also be great and help Joelsim threathen me and still its too early to write the rest of you off yet. You also have Chevrier, that used to be a great talent, and who knows if he suddenly explodes too, after his very slow progress so far as a pro. Besides Joelsim Jakob is perhaps the most dangerous though with riders like McLay and maybe Looij that could potentially score high this year.


Whoops sorry, yeah I was looking back and forth between tabs and scrolling up and down through teams, my mistake. True that McLay is a real potential threat; Looij I am less sure about, as he was so fast so young two years ago but that seems to have vanished. Either way, even if top spot is out of reach I'll be excited to follow along this year - this was a weird class, it seems like lots of them have gone in fits and starts with injury/illness (Kung, Power) or really stop/start development (Chevrier, Vervaeke, Ruffoni, Mullen, and even Henao and Quintana have shown talent only to have long periods of nothing).
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07 Feb 2017 20:51

Into the decisive third year: will some of our picks have a delayed breakthrough?

Year 3, Month 1 to 5th Feb

Rather unimpressive: the riders in the 2017-19 game have scored better this month. Maybe our key picks are established enough now not to be concerned with the early season events, or maybe this edition just has fewer Aussies.

MCLAY Daniel 120pts 4 teams (a win and a third in Majorcan races)
VERVAEKE Louis 84 23 (a second and a fourth in Majorcan races)
SENNI Manuel 77 4 (3rd in Volta a la Comminitat Valenciana)
LATOUR Pierre 61 23 (4th in Bessèges)
MARECZKO Jakub 48 17 (11th and some stage points in Dubai)
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 46 14 (2 stage wins in San Juan)

Points gained
1 GPBlanco 408 (Vervaeke, Senni, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
2 Madrazo 398 (Vervaeke, Senni, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
3 Kazistuta 396 (McLay, Vervaeke, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
4 HugoKoblet 371(Vervaeke, Latour, Mareczko, Gaviria)
5 Joelsim 358
6 Jakob747 354
7 ItalianGigolo 324
8 Josedin 315
9 Mutschi 314
10 Multispeed 305
11 Nuvolablu 284
12 Asdfgh101 280
13 Snccdcno 274
14 GeraintTooFast 273
15 Leadbelly 262
16 Skidmark 261
17 Alykaptan 255
18 Blues_in_the_Bottle 254
19 Karaev 253
20 Ludwigzgz 246
21 Comodoro 236
22 HilltopFinisher 216
23 RoteLaterne 208
24 Vladimir 196
25 Flo 195
26 AlPacino 187
27 Armchair_Cyclist 185
28 Del1962 177
29 MCMountain 175
30 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 166
31 DJSprtsch 163
32 Ruudz0r 149
33 Scrooll07 74
CollectiveWisdom 336


Standings
A slight increase in the leader's margin, and in that between 2nd and the chasers. Only one positional change: Italian Gigolo leapfrogs Leadbelly for 4th.

1 Madrazo 9823
2 Joelsim 9529
3 Multispeed 8293
4 ItalianGigolo 8190
5 Leadbelly 8179
6 Jakob747 8137
7 HugoKoblet 8128
8 Skidmark 7910
9 Nuvolablu 7900
10 Kazistuta 7785
11 Vladimir 7410
12 MCMountain 7263
13 Karaev 7214
14 Alykaptan 7193
15 GPBlanco 7168
16 HilltopFinisher 6961
17 Ruudz0r 6727
18 Blues_in_the_Bottle 6705
19 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 6481
20 Asdfgh101 6453
21 Snccdcno 6247
22 GeraintTooFast 6045
23 Josedin 5825
24 RoteLaterne 5696
25 Ludwigzgz 5670
26 Mutschi 5514
27 AlPacino 5370
28 Comodoro 5263
29 Del1962 5091
30 Flo 4934
31 Armchair_Cyclist 4760
32 Scrooll07 3306
33 DJSprtsch 2350
CollectiveWisdom 8168
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06 Mar 2017 23:26

Year 3 Month 2 up to 5th March

Still not really taken off this season:
(Name/points/teams)
ROGLIC Primoz 209 1 (GC win and 2 stage podiums in Volta ao Algarve for MCMountain)
NAESEN Oliver 95 10 (top tens in Omloop and Kuurne)
JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander 84 1 (GC 4th in Langkawi for Comodoro)
MARECZKO Jakub 70 17 (1st, 1st, 2nd and 4th in Lagkawi stages)
MOHORIC Matej 53 15 (top ten in Laigueglia)


1 Madrazo 443 (Naesen, Mareczko, Mohoric and 11 other scorers)
2 Joelsim 413 (Naesen, Mareczko and 13 other scorers)
3 MCMountain 402 (Roglic and 9 others)
4 Vladimir 395
5 Blues_in_the_Bottle 394
6 HugoKoblet 379
7 ItalianGigolo 377
8 Armchair_Cyclist 350
9 Skidmark 342
10 Multispeed 341
11 Jakob747 335
12 Nuvolablu 334
13 HilltopFinisher 304
14 Leadbelly 301
15 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 284
16 GPBlanco 282
17 Ruudz0r 269
18 Karaev 266
19 Alykaptan 257
20 Josedin 254
21 Ludwigzgz 253
22 AlPacino 229
23 Kazistuta 226
23 Del1962 226
25 Snccdcno 217
26 RoteLaterne 198
27 Mutschi 183
28 Asdfgh101 175
29 Scrooll07 167
30 DJSprtsch 153
31 Comodoro 148
32 Flo 147
33 GeraintTooFast 134
CollectiveWisdom 377

The top 2 in February were already the top two overall: their stranglehold increases. HugoKoblet moves up 2 places for the only drama in the top ten. At least the race for the last podium spot might have some suspense...
1 Madrazo 10266
2 Joelsim 9942
3 Multispeed 8634
4 ItalianGigolo 8567
5 HugoKoblet 8507
6 Leadbelly 8480
7 Jakob747 8472
8 Skidmark 8252
9 Nuvolablu 8234
10 Kazistuta 8011
11 Vladimir 7805
12 MCMountain 7665
13 Karaev 7480
14 GPBlanco 7450
14 Alykaptan 7450
16 HilltopFinisher 7265
17 Blues_in_the_Bottle 7099
18 Ruudz0r 6996
19 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 6765
20 Asdfgh101 6628
21 Snccdcno 6464
22 GeraintTooFast 6179
23 Josedin 6079
24 Ludwigzgz 5923
25 RoteLaterne 5894
26 Mutschi 5697
27 AlPacino 5599
28 Comodoro 5411
29 Del1962 5317
30 Armchair_Cyclist 5110
31 Flo 5081
32 Scrooll07 3473
33 DJSprtsch 2503
CollectiveWisdom 8538
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07 Mar 2017 20:32

Being one spot behind Ludwigzgz in the first edition would have been incredible ...
Thanks for the update.
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