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2015 Vuelta CQ game

17 Aug 2015 21:21

Sorry it is late: I trust that you knew it was coming anyway...

The game is as before: 9 riders, 3500 points. If you need the details, here they are:


Rules
Team of exactly nine riders. Teams with fewer riders will be filled out with cheapest riders available (2nd sort criteria will be alphabetical by surname). If quota of nine cannot be reached in this manner (eg, 8 riders totalling exactly 3500, no free riders starting race) team will be disqualified.

Riders selected who do not start the Vuelta will be replaced by the next most expensive from their own team, if possible, otherwise as above.

Teams with more than 9 riders will have their most expensive pick(s) removed from their squad,

Budget

Budget will be 3500 points.

Price of riders
CQ current score as at 16th August, with points accumulated over 12 months leading up to that date, for which the update file that CQ released today (Monday 17th) will be considered definitive.
There is, as in the past, a dropbox spreadsheet of riders likely to participate and their prices for the game, and a facility for checking the team total.

Rider eligibility

All riders participating in the Vuelta are eligible: there are no restrictions on riders returning from any form of ban.

Submitting your team
By personal message to me. Players who have accounts at both CN and VR are asked to use the VR personal message system (I have an unlimited inbox there)
Pleeeeeeeease send the team with names formatted as per CQ. It makes an enormous difference to the efficiency of adding teams. If you use the dropbox spreadsheet it will be a simple copy and paste job.
I have lodged my team with Gigs_98, the first person to submit a team, so that there can be confidence that I didn't pick from among the best of everyone else's ideas.


Deadline
Saturday 22nd August at whatever time the first team rolls down the ramp. (I think 6:40pm Italian time/5:40pm UK)

Scoring
Points issued according to thepoints tables of CQ (column GT2). Note there are no points issued for the young rider category.


Please feel free to publicise the game elsewhere: always happy to have new participants.

I will be away for a few days, so please be extra careful to ensure that the team is accurately priced before you submit it: I doubt I will be able to check any teams until Friday evening, so they had better be right when you send them in.


Good luck to all.
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18 Aug 2015 21:01

Hugo, Geraint Too Fast and NairoQ to contest the win.

BigMac to come dead last.

Thanks Armchair.
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21 Aug 2015 13:16

First time i've remembered to do Vuelta; almost went for Froome but decided on a more balanced team instead.
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

21 Aug 2015 13:59

@armchair

I registered to this forum just to play this game. Now i want to send you my team via PM but it says:
'We are sorry, but you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just registered here and may need to participate more to be able to use this feature.'

Should I post my team here or...?
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

21 Aug 2015 14:52

I will PM you my email adress, you may send your team to me that way and I can forward it to Armchair Cyclist via the forum. I have sent mine already so you don't have to worry about me stealing picks. :)

Alternatively you can make a few posts in the forum so that feature is activated on your account, I think 10 will suffice.

Cheers.
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21 Aug 2015 16:49

Team ready and sent. Not too confident about it this time, I feel like I could've done better but it's hard to compile a team this time. Wondering how others approached it!
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21 Aug 2015 20:58

First time Vuelta for me as the race happens during my holidays but I found some time on the ferry to compose a team. It's a conservative approach this time. I hope it won't be a fail like the Tour team but it won't win me the game neither.

Looking forward to the other teams and the race.
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22 Aug 2015 12:02

Just submitted a team bit rushed though
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22 Aug 2015 13:16

I can't send any messages but i don't know why.... Should I post my team here when the stage begins?

Edit: I guess I will post my team here now...Hope nobody will mind...

MAJKA Rafal
POZZOVIVO Domenico
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
PELUCCHI Matteo
NIBALI Vincenzo
CANO ARDILA Alex Norberto
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
PELLAUD Simon
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

22 Aug 2015 16:32

^^ You've got the two riders who I think will be in every team, including mine. Not big fans of either, but they are decent value.

Apart from that, haven't gone down the big stars route and so have ended up with three frenchmen in the team
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

22 Aug 2015 17:48

postmanhat wrote:^^ You've got the two riders who I think will be in every team, including mine. Not big fans of either, but they are decent value.

Apart from that, haven't gone down the big stars route and so have ended up with three frenchmen in the team


I think (/hope) I know the two you're talking about, as I've got them both if it's true. One of them though, I don't believe he'll be picked by thát many.
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

22 Aug 2015 19:40

postmanhat wrote:^^ You've got the two riders who I think will be in every team, including mine. Not big fans of either, but they are decent value.

Apart from that, haven't gone down the big stars route and so have ended up with three frenchmen in the team


I'm not sure who those 2 riders are(can't decide between 3 of them). Anyway I made this team in a hurry and I could've missed some obvious picks. I also considered another expensive rider but already had him in my CQ 2015 team so I decided to go with another...
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22 Aug 2015 22:51

damn, I thought my Velits pick was going to be brilliant but then I saw CQ doesn't award any points for that joke of a stage.
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22 Aug 2015 22:51

41 teams entered, and luckily, as I was away all week, the correct prices seem to have been checked more accurately than for previous events, as all are within budget.

Some earlier submissions included non-starters Serpa, Silin and Betancur in their teams: some sent in modifications, others suffer enforced substitutions, noted by the team names below.
In the interests of full disclosure, I had included Serpa in the team I sent to Gigs98 on Tuesday morning: I replaced him today with De La Cruz before I opened all the other team entries.

76 of the 198 riders are included in the game, 23 as unique picks (asterisked in the list below), selections ordered by price within each team

18Valve
ARU Fabio
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
KADRI Blel

AmisVelo
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
MAJKA Rafal
TALANSKY Andrew
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
COPPEL Jérôme
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
KADRI Blel

Armchair Cyclist
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
KADRI Blel

asdfgh101
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
MAJKA Rafal
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
VISCONTI Giovanni
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
KADRI Blel

Barmaher

VAN GARDEREN Tejay
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
ELISSONDE Kenny
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
KADRI Blel

BigMac
VAN GARDEREN Tejay
LANDA MEANA Mikel
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw *
MEZGEC Luka *
CRADDOCK Lawson
KADRI Blel
VANOTTI Alessandro

Blues in the Bottle
VAN GARDEREN Tejay
MAJKA Rafal
TALANSKY Andrew
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
RUBIANO CHAVEZ Miguel Angel *
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
SCHLECK Fränk
ROLLIN Dominique

Comodoro
VAN GARDEREN Tejay
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
MEINTJES Louis *
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
KADRI Blel

crevaison
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
ROLLAND Pierre
ARROYO DURAN David
BAGDONAS Gediminas
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
ELISSONDE Kenny
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
Bagdonas is an enforced replacement for non-starter Carlos Betancur

Del1962
NIBALI Vincenzo
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
SCHLECK Fränk
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
KADRI Blel
VANOTTI Alessandro
JIM Songezo

DJW
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
ROLLAND Pierre
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
BAGOT Yoann *
ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar
VELITS Peter
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
KADRI Blel

Geraint Too Fast
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
MONFORT Maxime
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
SCHLECK Fränk
CARDOSO Andre Fernando Santos Martins
DE GENDT Thomas
ELISSONDE Kenny

Gigs 98
BOUHANNI Nacer
POZZOVIVO Domenico
TALANSKY Andrew
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
SCHLECK Fränk
ZOIDL Riccardo
KOSHEVOY Ilia *
BAGDONAS Gediminas

VELITS Peter
Bagdonas is an enforced replacement for non-starter Carlos Betancur
Koshevoy is an enforced replacement for non-starter Jose Serpa

Hakkie2
NIBALI Vincenzo
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
DE GENDT Thomas
BRAMBILLA Gianluca *
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
CRADDOCK Lawson
CATTANEO Mattia *

Hugo87
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
MAJKA Rafal
ROLLAND Pierre
TALANSKY Andrew
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
VELITS Peter
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
KADRI Blel

Joelsim
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
TALANSKY Andrew
PELUCCHI Matteo
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
ARROYO DURAN David
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny

Josedin
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
DRUCKER Jempy *
BARBERO CUESTA Carlos
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
DE MARCHI Alessandro
REYNES MIMO Vicente *
CRADDOCK Lawson

JosephD
NIBALI Vincenzo
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
MAJKA Rafal
ROLLAND Pierre
PELUCCHI Matteo
TANNER David *
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson

JustSomeGuy
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
BERHANE TEWELDEMEDHIN Natnael
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
FISCHER Murilo Antonio
ROLLIN Dominique
PELLAUD Simon
JIM Songezo

Kabete
ARU Fabio
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
MONFORT Maxime
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
ZOIDL Riccardo
ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar
VELITS Peter
CRADDOCK Lawson

Karaev
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
PELUCCHI Matteo
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
CANO ARDILA Alex Norberto
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
PELLAUD Simon

Leadbelly
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres

lightbing
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
SCHLECK Fränk
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
KADRI Blel

Los Brolin
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
PELUCCHI Matteo
BERHANE TEWELDEMEDHIN Natnael
SCHLECK Fränk
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
KADRI Blel

MellowVelo
ARU Fabio
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
REZA Kévin
BENNATI Daniele *
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny

Midge
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
VISCONTI Giovanni
PELUCCHI Matteo
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo
REZA Kévin
ELISSONDE Kenny

Minessa
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
COPPEL Jérôme
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
KADRI Blel

MKind1
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
PELUCCHI Matteo
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
KADRI Blel

Murrjt
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
PELUCCHI Matteo
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
SCHLECK Fränk
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben
CANO ARDILA Alex Norberto
ELISSONDE Kenny

NairoQ
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
ZOIDL Riccardo
ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos

Postmanhat
NIBALI Vincenzo
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
MAJKA Rafal
TALANSKY Andrew
DE CLERCQ Bart *
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
LE GAC Olivier *
ELISSONDE Kenny
KADRI Blel

Rote Laterne
NIBALI Vincenzo
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
ROLLAND Pierre
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
SCHLECK Fränk
DE MARCHI Alessandro
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ROLLIN Dominique

Scrooll07
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel *
BARBERO CUESTA Carlos
PELUCCHI Matteo
REGUIGUI Youcef *
CARDOSO Andre Fernando Santos Martins
ARROYO DURAN David
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano

Search
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
BARBERO CUESTA Carlos
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
SCHLECK Fränk
VANENDERT Jelle *
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
ELISSONDE Kenny

Semir
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
POZZOVIVO Domenico
MAJKA Rafal
SCHLECK Fränk
MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo
VILELA Ricardo Augusto Afonso *
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
CRADDOCK Lawson
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos

shalgo
BOUHANNI Nacer
LANDA MEANA Mikel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
SCHLECK Fränk
ARROYO DURAN David
DE GENDT Thomas
MOHORIC Matej
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny

The Sceptic

QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
BERHANE TEWELDEMEDHIN Natnael
SCHLECK Fränk
ARROYO DURAN David
STUYVEN Jasper *
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
VELITS Peter
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres

TomJelte
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
SCHLECK Fränk
DE GENDT Thomas
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
CRADDOCK Lawson
KADRI Blel
FISCHER Murilo Antonio

Trudgin
Sagan Peter *
BARBERO CUESTA Carlos
Visconti Giovanni
ROSA Diego *
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
Zeits Andrey *
Arroyo Duran David
De Gendt Thomas
Kadri Blel

Tuart
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
MAJKA Rafal
TALANSKY Andrew
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
SCHLECK Fränk
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben
ARROYO DURAN David
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
ELISSONDE Kenny

Vladimir
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
NIBALI Vincenzo
MAJKA Rafal
COPPEL Jérôme
WARBASSE Larry *
ENGOULVENT Jimmy
MOHORIC Matej
ELISSONDE Kenny
CRADDOCK Lawson
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

22 Aug 2015 23:06

So only because I choose two riders who were in your list but are actually not participating my name isnt bolded :mad:


;)
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22 Aug 2015 23:24

Rider popularity
This is out of 41 teams: the Collective Wisdom team, defending its Tour de France win, and bolded below, comes in well under budget as the ninth most popular rider, Quintana, is priced out in favour of Dombrowski.
29 - MAJKA Rafal
24 - NIBALI Vincenzo
23 - POZZOVIVO Domenico
22 - DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
21 - ELISSONDE Kenny
17 - KADRI Blel
14 - CRADDOCK Lawson, SCHLECK Fränk
12 - QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
11 - DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
10 - NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
8 - LANDA MEANA Mikel, PELUCCHI Matteo, RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Ariel Maximiliano
7 - ARROYO DURAN David, TALANSKY Andrew
6 - VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
5 - CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, DE GENDT Thomas, ROLLAND Pierre, VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen, VELITS Peter
4 - BARBERO CUESTA Carlos, HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis, ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin, VAN GARDEREN Tejay
3 - ARU Fabio, BERHANE TEWELDEMEDHIN Natnael, COPPEL Jérôme, DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David, MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo, MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel, ROLLIN Dominique, VISCONTI Giovanni, ZOIDL Riccardo, ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar
2 - ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin, BAGDONAS Gediminas, BOUHANNI Nacer, CANO ARDILA Alex Norberto, CARDOSO Andre Fernando Santos Martins, DE MARCHI Alessandro, ENGOULVENT Jimmy, FISCHER Murilo Antonio, FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar, JIM Songezo, MOHORIC Matej, MONFORT Maxime, PELLAUD Simon, PLAZA MOLINA Ruben, REZA Kévin, VANOTTI Alessandro, VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose
unique picks above

Popularity ranking
1 MKind1 153
2 Joelsim 151
3 TomJelte 139
4 Armchair_Cyclist 138
5 Comodoro 136
6 Leadbelly 135
6 LosBrolin 135
8 asdfgh101 134
8 NairoQ 134
10 Rote_Laterne 132
11 LightBing 131
12 GeraintTooFast 130
12 Minessa 130
14 JosephD 128
15 Murrjt 127
16 Barmaher 126
17 Semir 124
17 Tuart 124
19 Hakkie2 123
19 Karaev 123
21 Del1962 122
22 18Valve 119
22 AmisVelo 119
24 Mellow_Velo 113
24 Search 113
26 Postmanhat 109
27 Vladimir 108
28 Crevaison 104
28 Hugo87 104
28 Shalgo 104
31 JustSomeGuy 93
32 DJW 91
32 The_Sceptic 91
34 BigMac 87
35 Kabete 80
36 Midge 79
37 Blues_in_the_Bottle 78
38 Josedin 75
39 Gigs_98 68
40 Scrooll07 62
41 Trudgin 41
Collective_Wisdom 175
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23 Aug 2015 00:39

Tactics
For the analysis of the big spends, I have generally looked at riders commanding more than half the average spend (778 pts or more), but Pozzovivo and Henao came so close to this threshhold, that they also need to be included. Ordered by price of most expensive rider

Sagan Trudgin

Quintana
with Nibali and Pozzovivo: Armchair Cyclist, Just Some Guy
with Nibali: DJW, Mkind1, NairoQ, The Sceptic, Tom Jelte, Vladimir
with Pozzovivo: Semir
alone: Amis Velo, Hugo87, Tuart

Aru
with Nibali and Landa (the Astana triple option): 18 Valve
with Pozzovivo: Mellow Velo
alone: Kabete

Bouhanni
with Landa and Pozzovivo: Shalgo
with Pozzovivo: Gigs 98

Van Garderen
with Nibali: Comodoro
with Landa: Big Mac
with Pozzovivo: Barmaher
alone: Blues in the Bottle

Moreno
with Henao and Pozzovivo: Lightbing
with Pozzovivo: Midge, Search

Nibali
with Landa and Pozzovivo: Crevaison, Del1962
with Landa: asdfgh101
with Henao and Pozzovivo: Hakkie2
with Henao: JosephD, Postmanhat
with Pozzovivo: Geraint Too Fast, Joelsim, Josedin, Karaev, Leadbelly, Minessa, Murrjt, Rote Laterne



And then, of course, there are the pricey picks that no-one picked, including three of the GC contenders:
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
FROOME Chris
DEGENKOLB John
RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim
MARTIN Daniel
DUMOULIN Tom
TERPSTRA Niki
THOMAS Geraint
VAN GARDEREN Tejay
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel
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23 Aug 2015 00:57

Stage 1
CQ have decided against issuing any points for the neutralised TTT (rather inconsistent: they gave stage points for the neutralised stage 21 of the Tour), so I guess I won't either, partly in consistency with them, and partly because I can't find lists of which riders were with the timed finish group (first 5+) for each team.
Commiserations to the 5 teams that chose Peter Velits.
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23 Aug 2015 16:38

Sorry. I am a bit late.
Had gone on a trip on 13th. back only yesterday :-(

this time, i guess i wait and watch how others are doing... i think i need to check how AC and 18valve are doing. roughly those were similar to my first 2 options
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Re: 2015 Vuelta CQ game

23 Aug 2015 19:26

^^ I think me and 24 others will just be watching now as well with Nibali's DQ.

Unless Bart De Clerq and Oliver Le Gac finish top ten :o
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