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15 Jan 2017 12:21

Santos Tour Down Under 2.UWT
PEDERSEN Mads
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc

Won't help me to better my ranking as almost everyone has these two.
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Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game

07 Feb 2017 06:04

Time to check in on this team - I'm in 5th place on the 2015-17 one, 6th here, but have a much better chance ultimately here, because a) there's more time and b) my team is much better.

BERNARD Julien
BOUDAT Thomas
CANTY Brendan
CHEVRIER Clément
CONSONNI Simone
DE PLUS Laurens
FOLIFOROV Alexander
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
KÄMNA Lennard
MANZIN Lorrenzo
MARTIN Guillaume
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
MOSCON Gianni
MULLEN Ryan
ORAM James
PEDERSEN Mads
VERVAEKE Louis

Funny to compare the previous year's team to this team - I had 5 repeat riders in Boudat, Chevrier, Gaviria, Mullen, and Vervaeke. Apart from Chevrier, I'm convinced it was a good idea to pick them again (although a bad sign if I can still pick them again after taking them the year before) - Gaviria is obviously a generational talent at this point, but Vervaeke I think is poised to take a big step up this year too. Boudat is maybe a steady growth guy, and Mullen I'll hold out on before I decide whether his Worlds performance was more than a fluke.

Moscon is already a boss, and Guillaume Martin seems to be progressing well with a Pro Conti program. Mads Pedersen wrung 195 points riding for an absolutely inept Stolting team last year so he should do great with the leap up to Trek. Stoked on all three of those guys.

Kamna and Daniel Martinez I guess I chose them too young, as I picked them again THIS year, ha! Obviously I believe they can grow into big scorers, although after last year I'm skeptical of Kamna as he might need a couple of years (but again, he rode for Stolting, which is maybe the only team I've seen in recent years that developed talent more poorly than IAM or Cofidis). So, I still have hope.

Bernard and Canty seem like steady growth guys (in the mold of one of my current CQ consistency crushes, Dion Smith, who I sadly couldn't pick for this game), and Geoghegan Hart is gonna be money, it's just a matter of how soon he can spread his wings in team Sky, but he'll probably get a favourable calendar like American races or ToB.

Consonni is a neo this year and I have him in my main team. I'm a believer.

Foliforov I had two years ago in my main team and he's been a mystery. Or, rather, Gazprom have been a mystery. He wins a Giro stage but really nothing else. Who knows.

De Plus was thoroughly unconvincing last year, although he might have just needed some blooding like Vervaeke. Jury is out.

Manzin seems set to continue as a moderate points-getter in some minor races, will probably not reach the ceiling I imagined for him.

Oram looks like a mistake, Chevrier looks like he's got a ceiling unless he takes a big growth spurt soon.

So, taking a look at how popular riders are vs. how good I think they'll be, Foliforov, Canty and Chevrier are my rarest picks, and although I've got fingers crossed for the other two, I think Canty might be my real value here. Other than that, my best prospects are popular picks... I think it might be two mid-table guys in Vervaeke and Martin that could really boost my chances.

Looking forward to a new year!
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07 Feb 2017 23:18

Very close at the end of Year One: everything to play for (and no way of effecting it):
Year 2 Month 1 to Feb 5th

Riders of the month
CALMEJANE Lilian 195pts 1 team (Won GC with a stage win and a 2nd in Bessèges, and 3rd in La Marseillaise for Alykaptan)
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan 148 5 (10th in TDU, 4th in Evans' Ocean Race)
SCOTSON Miles 127 1 (Aussie RR win, 5th in the TT and finishers' points for Just Some Guy)
VERVAEKE Louis 84 15 (a second and a fourth in Majorcan races)
SENNI Manuel 77 1 (3rd in Volta a la Comminitat Valenciana for Amis Velo)
CANTY Brendan 50 4 (Top 10 in both Aus nat champs events, top 20 in Evans' Ocean Race)
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 46 36 (2 stage wins in San Juan)
POLITT Nils 45 7 (6th in GC at Bessèges)

Points earned
These scores are lower than the riders 1 year behind them: these riders are meant to be more established....
1 AmisVelo 424 (Restrepo, Vervaeke, Senni & Gaviria)
2 Ludwigzgz 358 (Restrepo, Vervaeke & Gaviria)
3 Alykaptan 293 (Calmejane & Gaviria)
4 Skidmark 278 (Vervaeke, Canty & Gaviria)
5 JustSomeGuy 265
6 Jakob747 257
7 Josedin 255
8 Comodoro 247
9 HugoKoblet 241
10 Joelsim 229
11 Armchair_Cyclist 217
12 Blues_in_the_Bottle 214
13 DJW 211
14 Abbulf 197
15 Murrjt 196
15 Madrazo 196
17 Ruudz0r 187
18 LukasCPH 186
19 Leadbelly 185
20 Karaev 182
21 ItalianGigolo 172
22 Del1962 170
22 HilltopFinisher 170
24 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 165
25 Bomboloni 157
26 Togo 136
27 Flo 130
28 GPBlanco 125
29 MCMountain 122
29 Laarsland 122
31 Scrooll07 116
32 RoteLaterne 113
33 Vladimir 110
34 Kazistuta 98
35 0w1s 97
36 Trudgin 89
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 65
CollectiveWisdom 196

Standings
I'm still getting a nosebleed, while DJW moves ahead of Flo for 2nd. Amis Velo's 7 place rise is the best of the month, and he and Alykaptan come into the top ten in place of Del and Karaev. Given his dominant win in the 2014-16 win, Ludwigzgz' rise to 4th looks ominous.

1 Armchair_Cyclist 4056
2 DJW 4022
3 Flo 3959
4 Ludwigzgz 3911
5 Skidmark 3865
6 Scrooll07 3850
7 Murrjt 3790
8 HugoKoblet 3777
9 AmisVelo 3735
10 Alykaptan 3729
11 Del1962 3649
12 Karaev 3627
13 Blues_in_the_Bottle 3594
14 GPBlanco 3548
15 Madrazo 3547
16 LukasCPH 3492
17 HilltopFinisher 3489
18 Ruudz0r 3467
19 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 3451
20 Josedin 3389
21 MCMountain 3385
22 Togo 3353
23 Abbulf 3343
24 Vladimir 3279
25 RoteLaterne 3268
26 Comodoro 3266
27 Jakob747 3230
28 Leadbelly 3192
29 Joelsim 3179
30 Trudgin 3084
31 Kazistuta 3064
32 ItalianGigolo 3013
33 Laarsland 2883
34 Bomboloni 2834
35 0w1s 2722
36 JustSomeGuy 2494
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 1100
CollectiveWisdom 3816
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07 Mar 2017 00:29

Year 2 Month 2 and up to 5th March


February yields fewer points than January, and year one (for one team at least) outscores year 2: points in these games can be rather counter-logical.

(Name/points/teams)
ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo 119 1 (Stage win and 5th in GC in Volta ao Algarve for GuilhermeRibeiro)
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 116 2 (7th in Langkawi, 5th in Larciano for Armchair Cyclist and Ruudz0r)
CALMEJANE Lilian 85 1 (5th in Haut Var GC, points in Drome, Ardeche and Laigueglia for Alykaptan)
OWEN Logan 65 1 (stage win 6th in Volta ao Alentejo for Kazistuta)
DUNBAR Eddie 59 5 (5th in Volta ao Alentejo)
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan 53 5 (2nd in Vuelta a Murcia)

1 Alykaptan 357 (Calmejeane and Dunbar, and 11 other scorers)
2 Ruudz0r 337 (Bernal and 13 others)
3 Armchair_Cyclist 307 (Bernal and 13 others)
4 AmisVelo 296
5 Ludwigzgz 286
6 Joelsim 272
7 Kazistuta 265
8 Murrjt 260
9 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 258
10 HugoKoblet 256
10 Del1962 256
12 Leadbelly 241
13 HilltopFinisher 236
14 Madrazo 234
15 Karaev 233
16 GPBlanco 231
16 MCMountain 231
18 Vladimir 230
19 Josedin 219
20 Comodoro 217
21 RoteLaterne 199
22 Abbulf 198
23 Scrooll07 196
23 ItalianGigolo 196
25 Flo 193
26 Skidmark 189
27 0w1s 180
28 Togo 178
29 Laarsland 177
30 Jakob747 175
31 Blues_in_the_Bottle 165
32 GuilhermeRibeiro 159
33 JustSomeGuy 156
34 LukasCPH 144
35 DJW 141
35 Trudgin 141
37 Bomboloni 140
CollectiveWisdom 231


My continued, and extended, lead is more of a surprise to me than it is to any of you, I assure you. Ludwigzgz' rise to 2nd is ominous, given his dominance of the 2014-16 game, but his 5 place rise is overshadowed by 6 place moves for Alykaptan, Amis Velo (both of those two are new in the top ten) and Ruudz0r.

1 Armchair_Cyclist 4363
2 Ludwigzgz 4197
3 DJW 4163
4 Flo 4152
5 Alykaptan 4086
6 Skidmark 4054
7 Murrjt 4050
8 Scrooll07 4046
9 HugoKoblet 4033
10 AmisVelo 4031
11 Del1962 3905
12 Karaev 3860
13 Ruudz0r 3804
14 Madrazo 3781
15 GPBlanco 3779
16 Blues_in_the_Bottle 3759
17 HilltopFinisher 3725
18 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 3709
19 LukasCPH 3636
20 MCMountain 3616
21 Josedin 3608
22 Abbulf 3541
23 Togo 3531
24 Vladimir 3509
25 Comodoro 3483
26 RoteLaterne 3467
27 Joelsim 3451
28 Leadbelly 3433
29 Jakob747 3405
30 Kazistuta 3329
31 Trudgin 3225
32 ItalianGigolo 3209
33 Laarsland 3060
34 Bomboloni 2974
35 0w1s 2902
36 JustSomeGuy 2650
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 1259
CollectiveWisdom 4047
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07 Mar 2017 20:41

Good call GuilhermeRibeiro for picking Antunes. I just realized I don't have Bernal. I had him in the youth and main game last year and this year again in the main team. I only swapped him him in the 2017-2019 edition for Martinez as I was convinced I have him in this game. Congratulation to your continued lead Armchair cyclist, well deserved.
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05 Apr 2017 17:27

Year 3, Month 3 6th March to 2nd April

A good month for some of our popular picks


SOLER GIMENEZ Marc 227pts 22 teams (3rd in Catalunya GC, with stage and mountain classification points, 5th in GP Indurain, stage & GC points in Paris-Nice)
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 226pts 36 teams (5th in Milan-San Remo, 9th in Gent-Wevelgem, stage win in Tirreno-Adriatico)
CALMEJANE Lilian 200pts 1 team (GC win and stage points in Settimana Coppi e Bartali, KoM winner in Paris-Nice for Alykaptan)
BOUDAT Thomas 108 20 (2nd in Loire Atlantique and Paris Troyes, stage win in Settimana Coppi e Bartali, points from other Coupe de France events)
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 90 2 (4th in Settimana Coppi e Bartali, 16th in Tirreno-Adriatico for ArmchairCyclist and Ruudz0r)
BETTIOL Alberto 82 2 (10th in Harelbeke and bits in several other WT classics for Armchair Cyclist and DJW)
ROSON GARCIA Jaime 78 3 (3rd in Settimana Coppi e Bartali for Flo, Joelsim and Scrool07)
CONSONNI Simone 55 19 (13th in Driedaagse GC, and 3rd on one stage)
MOSCON Gianni 54 32 (15th in Ronde, and 4 sets of WT race finisher points)

Our most costly collective misses:
AVILA VANEGAS Edwin Alcibiades 141 (GC 2nd and stage pts in Tour of Taiwan)
DASSONVILLE Flavien 96 (win in Tourangelle, 9th in Loire Atlantique: 4 teams picked him a year earlier, but not this time)
VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem 84 (Win Ronde van Drenthe)
HALVORSEN Kristoffer 80 (Win Handzame)


Points gained
Assume everyone has Gaviria (well, Guilherme hasn't, but look where he is...)

1 Alykaptan 1044 (Soler, Calmejeane, Boudat, Roson, Moscon)
2 Armchair_Cyclist 950 (Soler, Boudat, Bernal, Bettiol, Consonni, Moscon)
3 MCMountain 800 (Soler, Boudat, Consonni, Moscon, as have most of the following with close scores)
4 RoteLaterne 790
5 AmisVelo 786
6 Murrjt 781
7 Del1962 767
8 HugoKoblet 762
9 Karaev 758
10 Togo 746
11 ItalianGigolo 726
12 DJW 683
12 0w1s 683
14 Vladimir 678
15 Trudgin 671
16 Madrazo 663
17 GPBlanco 662
17 Abbulf 662
19 Blues_in_the_Bottle 640
20 Scrooll07 634
21 Comodoro 628
22 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 612
22 Leadbelly 612
24 HilltopFinisher 605
25 Ludwigzgz 592
26 Ruudz0r 571
27 Skidmark 515
28 Jakob747 458
29 Flo 456
30 JustSomeGuy 447
31 LukasCPH 443
32 Bomboloni 441
33 Kazistuta 431
34 Josedin 427
35 Joelsim 419
36 Laarsland 333
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 90
CollectiveWisdom 800


Standings

(This is getting embarrassing, but in a different way from my performance in most games... )
Being 2nd in the month increases Armchair's lead, while Alykaptan leaps 3 places to 2nd. Ludwizgz drops from 2nd to 7th, but three others have more severe drops, while the highest placed of the 5 place risers is Amis Velo, who is matched outside the top ten by MCMountain and Rote Laterne. Del1962 and Karaev sneak into the top ten.

1 Armchair_Cyclist 5313
2 Alykaptan 5130
3 DJW 4846
4 Murrjt 4831
5 AmisVelo 4817
6 HugoKoblet 4795
7 Ludwigzgz 4789
8 Scrooll07 4680
9 Del1962 4672
10 Karaev 4618
11 Flo 4608
12 Skidmark 4569
13 Madrazo 4444
14 GPBlanco 4441
15 MCMountain 4416
16 Blues_in_the_Bottle 4399
17 Ruudz0r 4375
18 HilltopFinisher 4330
19 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 4321
20 Togo 4277
21 RoteLaterne 4257
22 Abbulf 4203
23 Vladimir 4187
24 Comodoro 4111
25 LukasCPH 4079
26 Leadbelly 4045
27 Josedin 4035
28 ItalianGigolo 3935
29 Trudgin 3896
30 Joelsim 3870
31 Jakob747 3863
32 Kazistuta 3760
33 0w1s 3585
34 Bomboloni 3415
35 Laarsland 3393
36 JustSomeGuy 3097
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 1349
CollectiveWisdom 4853
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08 May 2017 23:34

Year 2, Month 4 3rd to 30th April (yes, that is a week ago, but it was the most recent update when I went to CQ this evening. I guess it fits the intention of monthly updates...

Other than Moscon, the points were gleaned mainly from stage races rather than the classics
CALMEJANE Lilian 156pts (Circuit de la Sarthe stage and GC wins, and 5 WT finishes) for Alykaptan
ROSON GARCIA Jaime 133 (2nd in GC, a stage win and a 2nd, in Croatia) for 3 teams
MOSCON Gianni 127(5th in Paris-Roubaix) for 32 teams
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 98 (2nd in Appenino, 9th in Tour of the Alps) for 2 teams
GOGL Michael 80 (8th in Amstel) for 4 teams
EDMONDSON Alexander 66 (3rd in 2 stages, 4th in another, and 3rd in points competition in Romandie) for 6 teams
PAREDES ZAPATA Wilmar Andres 62pts 1 team
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix 59 4
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao 55 24
ACKERMANN Pascal 54 1

Points gained
1 Alykaptan 585 (Calmejeane, Roson, Moscon)
2 Ruudz0r 485 (Moscon, Bernal, Paredes and Geoghegan)
3 Vladimir 448 (Roson and Moscon)
4 DJW 408
5 Karaev 392
6 Blues_in_the_Bottle 375
6 Leadbelly 375
8 Armchair_Cyclist 368
9 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 364
10 Del1962 362
11 MCMountain 356
11 HilltopFinisher 356
13 GPBlanco 339
14 Flo 332
15 Kazistuta 330
16 Murrjt 328
17 Josedin 325
18 Skidmark 315
18 Comodoro 315
20 RoteLaterne 310
21 AmisVelo 308
22 Ludwigzgz 296
23 Trudgin 295
24 Madrazo 290
25 HugoKoblet 275
26 Jakob747 272
27 Togo 270
28 Abbulf 265
29 Bomboloni 262
30 Scrooll07 248
31 Joelsim 242
32 ItalianGigolo 210
33 JustSomeGuy 206
34 LukasCPH 205
35 Laarsland 158
36 0w1s 121
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 101
CollectiveWisdom 222

Standings
Alykaptan, having the top three scorers of the month, dislodges the previous leader (grrr, snarl...); Ludwigzgz, Del, Karaev and Flo also go up a spot in the top tenwhile Ruudz0r has the biggest (4 place) rise.

1 Alykaptan 5715
2 Armchair_Cyclist 5681
3 DJW 5254
4 Murrjt 5159
5 AmisVelo 5125
6 Ludwigzgz 5085
7 HugoKoblet 5070
8 Del1962 5034
9 Karaev 5010
10 Flo 4940
11 Scrooll07 4928
12 Skidmark 4884
13 Ruudz0r 4860
14 GPBlanco 4780
15 Blues_in_the_Bottle 4774
16 MCMountain 4772
17 Madrazo 4734
18 HilltopFinisher 4686
19 The_Fool_on_the_Hill 4685
20 Vladimir 4635
21 RoteLaterne 4567
22 Togo 4547
23 Abbulf 4468
24 Comodoro 4426
25 Leadbelly 4420
26 Josedin 4360
27 LukasCPH 4284
28 Trudgin 4191
29 ItalianGigolo 4145
30 Jakob747 4135
31 Joelsim 4112
32 Kazistuta 4090
33 0w1s 3706
34 Bomboloni 3677
35 Laarsland 3551
36 JustSomeGuy 3303
37 GuilhermeRibeiro 1450
CollectiveWisdom 5027
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