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Re: 2016 Giro CQ Game

07 May 2016 08:53

So the three 'Nibali only' teams are in fact all Nibali+Uran. I'll compare them later, always good to see to what choices it might come down.
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Re: 2016 Giro CQ Game

07 May 2016 09:41

All three:
NIBALI Vincenzo
URAN URAN Rigoberto
PERAUD Jean-Christophe
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw

Amis Velo and Search:
PELUCCHI Matteo

Amis Velo and I:
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin

Other ones are 'unique': Amis Velo (DE MARCHI Alessandro, BATTAGLIN Enrico), NairoQ (KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi, HOWSON Damien, CICCONE Giulio), Search (KITTEL Marcel, FOLIFOROV Alexander, RUFFONI Nicola, KOLOBNEV Alexandr).
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Re: 2016 Giro CQ Game

07 May 2016 10:05

NairoQ wrote:So the three 'Nibali only' teams are in fact all Nibali+Uran. I'll compare them later, always good to see to what choices it might come down.


You don't have any confidence in Landa?

I had considered including Uran in the major spends analysis, but there is more than 100 point price difference between Majka and the next selected (Visconti), with Pozzovivo and Uran more than 50 behind that. And then do I extend it further to Kittel and Kruijswijk? I decided to stick with my usual 2x average budget per rider.
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07 May 2016 10:34

I have confidence in him, but not at that cost. Including him next to Nibali didn't work for me when creating a team, I didn't feel like I had enough budget left to make a strong team. Also, I don't see him winning it. And if he doesn't, I doubt the difference between his and Uran's points will be large enough to justify the difference in budget. Uran seems really low-priced to me, so that kind of ruled Landa out. I'm convinced Uran+Kudus+Betancur will score more than just Landa, but I guess we'll see.

Judging from the names behind the Nibali-Landa combo, that's the way to go ;)
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07 May 2016 15:00

Jancouver wrote:Thanks!

I'm quite surprised to be the only one having Amador ... (and Roche)


My original team featured Amador, but it ended up being 90 CQ points over the limit, so decided to get rid of him given that he'll be a domestique barring a valverde crash
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07 May 2016 16:39

i am already cribbing why i didnt pick Amador from my shortlist.

i could have used the extra 100 points to choose someone else
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07 May 2016 16:58

Strategy i used for this giro:

one rider moderately costly, and will give me a few podiums and a definite top-5 GC. options were piti(too expensive, fair price of about 1200), nibbles(expensive, fair price of about 1400), Landa(1100 is high), Zakarin, Majka.

Next: about 2-3 riders(i ended up picking 3) in the not too costly, not too cheap category. Had to pick Pozzo, Uran, and birdsong was cheap. ideally, all three should top-10. worst case, all are top-20 with eyes closed.

I love Anton and Capecchi. both will deliver if they get a chance.

Next step was some sprinter. i picked sabatini. (i dont know why i picked him)

i was searching for a flecha. ended up picking de marchi. Last year's Veulta had something to do with pick.
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07 May 2016 18:38

Ruffoni almost in profit, Porsev also scoring. I'm happy so far.

This time I was pretty quick with possible teams. It was not so difficult points wise as even the most expensive riders would fit in a good team. Problem was there was not a clear favorite. It's still Nibali for me despite showing nothing in the last weeks. Second favorite Valverde, but he's never ridden the Giro and I feared cold weather and of course you can't pair him with Nibali. Landa can podium, should be at least top 5 and should score some points in mountain stages. I chose him over Zakarin who is a unknown as GC contender in a Grand Tour.
I didn't go for cheaper GC contenders like Majka, Pozzovivo, Uran, Chaves and a good sprinter (Kittel) as I didn't think the TT kilometers would suit Chaves and the rest hasn't shown anything this far to pick them over Nibali. I didn't know Kittel intends to finish the Giro but then I don't think I would have begun from scratch when reading it Thursday night.
My aim is a top 15.
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07 May 2016 19:13

Stage 2 The Giroprijs

KITTEL Marcel 70 16 teams
DEMARE Arnaud 40 0 team
MODOLO Sacha 25 0 team
DUMOULIN Tom 18 0 team
HOFLAND Moreno 15 0 team
RUFFONI Nicola 10 23 teams
PORSEV Alexander 7 5 teams
EWAN Caleb 5 2 teams
SBARAGLI Kristian 3 1 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 2 1 team
NIZZOLO Giacomo 1 0 team

Kittel doesn't disappoint those who calculated that stage win points are worth investment, and Ruffoni is already good value for 13 points (but whether he is good value for 11.11% of the spots available is another issue). Amador turns out to be a top ten sprinter, as well as a top 3 time trialist: who would've thought it?

Points earned
1 LightBing 87 (Kittel, Ruffoni and Porsev)
2= Nine teams that link Kittel and Ruffoni 80
11 Yellow_Knight 77 (Kittel and Porsev)
12 BluesInTheBottle 75 (Kittel and Ewan)
13= The remaining four Kittel teams 70
17= Comodoro & Rote_Laterne 17 (Ruffoni and Porsev)
19= Eleven other teams with Ruffoni 10
30 Josedin 8 (Ewan & Sbaragli)
31 JosephD 7 (Porsev)
32 Jancouver 2 (Amador)
and 19 of us got nothing

Standings
Guaranteed points only for now: I'll add in projected category points when those lists take on some shape.

More teams scoring higher returns than yesterday, so high correlation between today's table and this one.
1 LightBing 97
2 Carlo_Algatrensig 90
2 Del1962 90
2 Fauniera 90
2 Joelsim 90
2 Laarsland 90
2 Mellow_Velo 90
2 Minessa 90
2 Not_My_Circus 90
2 Search 90
2 BluesInTheBottle 90
12 Yellow_Knight 87
13 Capt_Cavman 80
13 DJW 80
13 Murrjt 80
13 Tigerion 80
17 Jancouver 27
18 Comodoro 17
18 Rote_Laterne 17
20 Bbass 15
21 18Valve 10
21 Crevaison 10
21 GeraintTooFast 10
21 Hugo87 10
21 Kazistuta 10
21 LosBrolin 10
21 Scrool07 10
21 SemirS 10
21 Shalgo 10
21 TomJelte 10
31 Josedin 8
32 JosephD 7
33 Barmaher 5
33 BicycleBoy 5
35 AmisVelo 0
35 ArchieBoy 0
35 Armchair_Cyclist 0
35 Caruut 0
35 GodChild 0
35 GPBlanco 0
35 Hakkie2 0
35 JustSomeGuy 0
35 Kabete 0
35 Leadbelly 0
35 Murali 0
35 NairoQ 0
35 Postmanhat 0
35 PremierAndrew 0
35 Torcia86 0
35 Trudgin 0
35 Vladimir 0
Collective_Wisdom 10
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08 May 2016 07:42

Kittel doesn't disappoint those who calculated that stage win points are worth investment, and Ruffoni is already good value for 13 points (but whether he is good value for 11.11% of the spots available is another issue). Amador turns out to be a top ten sprinter, as well as a top 3 time trialist: who would've thought it?

It wasn't just stage wins, I was hoping that Kittel would have taken pink on this stage and started to rack up some leader points as well.
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Re:

08 May 2016 09:40

Tigerion wrote:
Armchair cyclist wrote:Kittel doesn't disappoint those who calculated that stage win points are worth investment, and Ruffoni is already good value for 13 points (but whether he is good value for 11.11% of the spots available is another issue). Amador turns out to be a top ten sprinter, as well as a top 3 time trialist: who would've thought it?


It wasn't just stage wins, I was hoping that Kittel would have taken pink on this stage and started to rack up some leader points as well.


Kittel did better than I had expected in the ITT to be able to be in with a chance of getting Pink today, and given that he probably won't be in the lead group on stage 4, I didn't expect him to wear the 18 point jersey at any stage. There was also a lot of speculation that he would not finish the race, and maybe not even try to finish an Italian stage, so I was surprised, as the entries came in, that so many had spent 638 points on a rider with what looked like a 140 point earnings maximum.
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08 May 2016 15:16

The most popular rider, JC Peraud, crashes out
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Re:

08 May 2016 15:39

PremierAndrew wrote:The most popular rider, JC Peraud, crashes out


2/3 of teams are down a man, not one of the expensive ones, but there were grounds to hope that he could have punished those who missed out on him.
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08 May 2016 17:55

Stage 3 Stage 2 rewound

Probably inevitable that the same riders as yesterday would feature: Kittel's teams will hope he stays around for a while, Viviani and Sbaragli, both far from cheap selections, have begun to repay those who have trusted them, and Porsev might have the consistency to be the best bargain sprinter pick.

KITTEL Marcel 88 points 16 teams
VIVIANI Elia 40 6 teams
NIZZOLO Giacomo 25 0 team
GREIPEL André 15 0 team
PORSEV Alexander 10 5 teams
SBARAGLI Kristian 7 1 team
HOFLAND Moreno 5 0 team
DEMARE Arnaud 3 0 team
ZABEL Rick 2 0 team
MOHORIC Matej 1 0 team

Points gained
1 Murrjt 128 (Kittel and Viviani)
2= LightBing and Yellow_Knight 98 (Kittel and Porsev)
4= Thirteen other Kittel teams 88
17 Josedin 47 (Viviani and, uniquely, Sbaragli)
18= Four more Viviani teams 40
22= Rest of the Porsev teams 10

Standings
aka Which sprinters did you select?

1 Murrjt 208
2 LightBing 195
3 Yellow_Knight 185
4 Carlo_Algatrensig 178
4 Del1962 178
4 Fauniera 178
4 Joelsim 178
4 Laarsland 178
4 Mellow_Velo 178
4 Minessa 178
4 Not_My_Circus 178
4 Search 178
4 BluesInTheBottle 178
14 Capt_Cavman 168
14 DJW 168
14 Tigerion 168
17 Josedin 55
18 Scrool07 50
19 BicycleBoy 45
20 GodChild 40
20 PremierAndrew 40
22 Comodoro 27
22 Rote_Laterne 27
25 JosephD 17
22 Jancouver 27
26 Bbass 15
27 18Valve 10
27 Crevaison 10
27 GeraintTooFast 10
27 Hugo87 10
27 Kazistuta 10
27 LosBrolin 10
27 SemirS 10
27 Shalgo 10
27 TomJelte 10
36 Barmaher 5
37 AmisVelo 0
37 ArchieBoy 0
37 Armchair_Cyclist 0
37 Caruut 0
37 GPBlanco 0
37 Hakkie2 0
37 JustSomeGuy 0
37 Kabete 0
37 Leadbelly 0
37 Murali 0
37 NairoQ 0
37 Postmanhat 0
37 Torcia86 0
37 Trudgin 0
37 Vladimir 0
Collective_Wisdom 10

81% of the points in this table are earned by Kittel.
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08 May 2016 19:35

Seems like a Kittel is a must for this game ... I can't imagine anyone without Kittel winning this game
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08 May 2016 22:53

Not sure if serious or...
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Re:

09 May 2016 00:58

NairoQ wrote:Not sure if serious or...


Well if he wins tomorrow then he has the equivalent of 5th overall. That is a big impact on the game. Wouldn't say anybody without him is out of it, but I would certainly prefer to have him than not
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Re: Re:

09 May 2016 05:54

Tigerion wrote:
NairoQ wrote:Not sure if serious or...


Well if he wins tomorrow then he has the equivalent of 5th overall. That is a big impact on the game. Wouldn't say anybody without him is out of it, but I would certainly prefer to have him than not


I'd say he needs another 2 victories before he turns into a must have. If he remains in the Giro, he'll very likely get those victories. I personally already regret picking Uran over Kittel. Even though Uran can still score better than Kittel, people with Kittel in their team will be on top of the leaderboard for at least 2 more weeks.
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10 May 2016 07:16

Peruad dnf and Geniez losing time is not so good for my team
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10 May 2016 17:29

Todays stage was a lost opportunity for Valverde and one of the stages I counted on a victory on... well, he has time enough to make it up to me :-)
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