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10 May 2016 20:13

del1962 wrote:Peruad dnf and Geniez losing time is not so good for my team


Geniez losing more than just some points, sadly, for not only Del, but also Semir, Torcia and Vladimir.
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10 May 2016 21:13

Stage 4 Italy at last

If I had started recording projected GC changes yet, today would have been much more interesting. The lower echelons of the top ten had some fairly popular riders, but we missed the big scorers.

ULISSI Diego 70 points 0 team
DUMOULIN Tom 58 points 0 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 25 points 9 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 15 points 1 team
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 10 points 0 team
NIBALI Vincenzo 7 points 11 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 5 points 16 teams
BUSATO Matteo 3 points 2 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 2 points 2 teams
ROCHE Nicolas 1 points 1 team

Points today
1 18Valve 32 (Kruijswijk & Nibali)
2= LightBing and GPBlanco 30 (Kruijswijk & Nibali)
4 BicycleBoy 28 (Kruijswijk & Busato)
5= Del1962, DJW, LosBrolin, SemirS, Kabete 25 (Kruijswijk)
10 Kazistuta 15 (Valverde)
11= Ten Nibalistas 7
21= Fifteen Zakarinists 5
36 Postmanhat 2 (Busato)
37 Jancouver 1 (Roche)
38 The rest 0
Collective_Wisdom 5

Standings

He may be out of pink, but Kittel still defines the top 16 in our early rankings. Third and sixth today lifts LightBing into the lead, 12 teams get off the mark.

1 LightBing 225
2 Murrjt 208
3 Del1962 203
4 DJW 193
5 Yellow_Knight 190
6 Search 185
7 Carlo_Algatrensig 183
7 Joelsim 183
7 Mellow_Velo 183
7 Minessa 183
11 Fauniera 178
11 Laarsland 178
11 Not_My_Circus 178
11 BluesInTheBottle 178
15 Capt_Cavman 168
15 Tigerion 168
17 BicycleBoy 73
18 Scrool07 55
18 Josedin 55
20 18Valve 42
21 GodChild 40
21 PremierAndrew 40
23 LosBrolin 35
23 SemirS 35
25 Comodoro 34
25 Rote_Laterne 34
27 GPBlanco 30
28 Jancouver 28
29 Kabete 25
29 Kazistuta 25
31 Bbass 20
32 GeraintTooFast 17
32 Hugo87 17
32 TomJelte 17
32 JosephD 17
36 Crevaison 15
36 Shalgo 15
38 Barmaher 10
39 AmisVelo 7
39 Armchair_Cyclist 7
39 JustSomeGuy 7
39 NairoQ 7
43 Caruut 5
43 Hakkie2 5
43 Leadbelly 5
43 Murali 5
43 Trudgin 5
48 Postmanhat 2
49 ArchieBoy 0
49 Torcia86 0
49 Vladimir 0
Collective_Wisdom 15
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11 May 2016 22:25

Stage 5 A Kittel-less sprint

Not only Kitte-less, but lacking almost any selected sprinter:

GREIPEL André 70 pts 0 team
DEMARE Arnaud 40 pts 0 team
COLBRELLI Sonny 25 pts 1 team
DUMOULIN Tom 18 pts 0 team
JUNGELS Bob 15 pts 4 teams
HOFLAND Moreno 10 pts 0 team
BELLETTI Manuel 7 pts 1 team
ZABEL Rick 5 pts 0 team
PREIDLER Georg 3 pts 0 team
EWAN Caleb 2 pts 2 teams
TSATEVICH Alexei 1 pts 0 team

Points earned
Not many today:
1 Trudgin 25
2 BluesInTheBottle 17
3 BicycleBoy 15
3 Barmaher 15
3 Bbass 15
6 ArchieBoy 7
7 Josedin 2

A unique pick of Colbrelli gives Trudgin the daily honours, Blues in the Bottle is the only one to have 2 of today's top ten (Jungels and Ewan). Blues in the Bottle was the only scorer today who is in the top 15, he rises to 4th in the guaranteed points ranking. ArchieBoy has a mixed day: he breaks his duck, but he and Yellow Knight lose their Blue jersey/stage-hunter hope, Fraile.

Standings
There is so little movement in the guaranteed points table, that I'll post the projected points table, if only so that the presumably very large jumps in it tomorrow have some context.

For those new to the game, the projected points table allocates the points for GC, Mountains and Points as though the Giro had finished today, as well as the stage points and pink jersey bonuses that are in the guaranteed points tables.

1 BicycleBoy 991
2 BluesInTheBottle 946
3 LightBing 902
4 Barmaher 820
5 DJW 785
6 Minessa 772
7 Del1962 757
8 Not_My_Circus 748
9 Bbass 742
10 GPBlanco 712
11 Mellow_Velo 703
12 Search 672
13 18Valve 671
14 Carlo_Algatrensig 645
15 Murrjt 643
16 Joelsim 630
17 Yellow_Knight 618
18 Capt_Cavman 613
19 Tigerion 598
20 Kabete 593
21 LosBrolin 582
22 Murali 573
23 Comodoro 555
24 Fauniera 554
25 Hakkie2 543
26 Jancouver 538
27 SemirS 535
28 Laarsland 530
29 TomJelte 523
30 ArchieBoy 513
31 Rote_Laterne 492
32 Torcia86 490
33 Crevaison 482
34 Scrool07 477
35 Caruut 468
36 AmisVelo 445
36 JosephD 445
38 Hugo87 441
39 NairoQ 436
40 Kazistuta 432
41 Postmanhat 430
42 Vladimir 427
43 Trudgin 413
44 Armchair_Cyclist 411
44 JustSomeGuy 411
46 GeraintTooFast 410
47 Shalgo 403
48 GodChild 388
49 Leadbelly 385
50 PremierAndrew 375
51 Josedin 306
Collective_Wisdom 457
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12 May 2016 23:17

Stage 6 The first mountains

Guaranteed Points
Probably not the anticipated protagonists of the day, but some fairly popular picks at least.

WELLENS Tim 70 points 0 team
FUGLSANG Jakob 40 4
DUMOULIN Tom 33 0
ZAKARIN Ilnur 25 16
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 10 1
POZZOVIVO Domenico 7 9
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 5 2
URAN URAN Rigoberto 3 28
MAJKA Rafal 2 8
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 1 1

Points gained:
1 Murali 75 (Fuglsang, Zakarin, Pozzovivo and Uran)
2 Minessa 68 (Fuglsang, Zakarin and Uran)
3= ArchieBoy, Not_My_Circus 43 (Fuglsang and Uran)
5 Crevaison 35 (Zakarin, Pozzovivo and Uran)
6 Barmaher, Hakkie2, LightBing, Mellow_Velo 28
10 GPBlanco, Scrool07 27
12 Bbass, Carlo_Algatrensig, Joelsim, Leadbelly, Shalgo, Trudgin, Yellow_Knight 25
19 Caruut, Vladimir 12
21 Del1962, JosephD, Rote_Laterne 10
24 Fauniera, Jancouver, LosBrolin 7
27 BluesInTheBottle, Comodoro, Postmanhat, TomJelte, Torcia86 5
32 Kazistuta 4
33 AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, Capt_Cavman, DJW, GodChild , Kabete, NairoQ, PremierAndrew, Search, SemirS, Tigerion 3
44 Laarsland 2
Collective_Wisdom 28

Guaranteed pt standings
At last everyone is off the mark
1 LightBing 253
2 Minessa 251
3 Not_My_Circus 221
4 Yellow_Knight 215
5 Del1962 213
6 Mellow_Velo 211
7 Carlo_Algatrensig 208
7 Joelsim 208
7 Murrjt 208
10 BluesInTheBottle 200
11 DJW 196
12 Search 188
13 Fauniera 185
14 Laarsland 180
15 Capt_Cavman 171
15 Tigerion 171
17 BicycleBoy 91
18 Scrool07 82
19 Murali 80
20 Bbass 60
21 GPBlanco 57
21 Josedin 57
23 Trudgin 55
24 Barmaher 53
25 ArchieBoy 50
25 Crevaison 50
27 Rote_Laterne 44
28 GodChild 43
28 PremierAndrew 43
30 18Valve 42
30 LosBrolin 42
32 Shalgo 40
33 Comodoro 39
34 SemirS 38
35 Jancouver 35
36 Hakkie2 33
37 Leadbelly 30
38 Kazistuta 29
39 Kabete 28
40 JosephD 27
41 TomJelte 22
42 Caruut 17
42 GeraintTooFast 17
42 Hugo87 17
45 Vladimir 12
46 AmisVelo 10
46 NairoQ 10
48 Armchair_Cyclist 7
48 JustSomeGuy 7
48 Postmanhat 7
51 Torcia86 5
Collective_Wisdom 43

Projected
Biggest changes in riders' scores (biggest scores, only riders chosen for the game)
FUGLSANG Jakob 280 4 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 180 16 teams
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 67 1 team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 50 2 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico 45 9 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 26 1 team
MONFORT Maxime 23 1 team
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos 22 1 team
...
KÜNG Stefan -17 3 teams
BUSATO Matteo -24 2 teams
PIRAZZI Stefano -31 10 teams
NIBALI Vincenzo -65 11 teams
ROCHE Nicolas -65 1 team
JUNGELS Bob -110 4 teams


Changes to team scores:

These largely serve to show how little relevance there was in the rankings yesterday, but I had anticipated more of a shakeup.
1 Murali 543
2 Minessa 454
3 Not_My_Circus 307
4 Crevaison 267
5 ArchieBoy 266
6 Yellow_Knight 225
7 Shalgo 217
8 Scrool07 194
9 Leadbelly 192
10 LightBing 191
11 Carlo_Algatrensig 186
11 Trudgin 186
13 Mellow_Velo 182
14 Joelsim 168
15 Hakkie2 163
16 GPBlanco 156
17 Barmaher 105
18 Vladimir 98
19 Bbass 78
20 Postmanhat 77
21 Fauniera 69
21 LosBrolin 69
23 Del1962 60
24 PremierAndrew 53
25 Caruut 43
26 Kazistuta 37
27 SemirS 34
28 Laarsland 33
29 Tigerion 26
30 JosephD 25
31 Kabete 24
32 GodChild 19
33 DJW 16
34 Rote_Laterne 12
35 Josedin 7
36 Capt_Cavman 3
37 GeraintTooFast -14
38 Torcia86 -19
39 Comodoro -29
40 TomJelte -34
41 NairoQ -35
42 Hugo87 -37
43 Armchair_Cyclist -38
43 JustSomeGuy -38
45 Jancouver -41
46 Search -44
47 18Valve -49
48 AmisVelo -54
49 Murrjt -66
50 BluesInTheBottle -89
51 BicycleBoy -102
Collective_Wisdom 201

Expect far less change tomorrow

Standings
3 of the 4 Fuglsang teams are 3 of the 4 top teams.
1 Minessa 1226
2 Murali 1116
3 LightBing 1093
4 Not_My_Circus 1055
5 Barmaher 925
6 BicycleBoy 889
7 Mellow_Velo 885
8 GPBlanco 868
9 BluesInTheBottle 857
10 Yellow_Knight 843
11 Carlo_Algatrensig 831
12 Bbass 820
13 Del1962 817
14 DJW 801
15 Joelsim 798
16 ArchieBoy 779
17 Crevaison 749
18 Hakkie2 706
19 Scrool07 671
20 LosBrolin 651
21 Search 628
22 Tigerion 624
23 Fauniera 623
24 18Valve 622
25 Shalgo 620
26 Kabete 617
27 Capt_Cavman 616
28 Trudgin 599
29 Leadbelly 577
29 Murrjt 577
31 SemirS 569
32 Laarsland 563
33 Comodoro 526
34 Vladimir 525
35 Caruut 511
36 Postmanhat 507
37 Rote_Laterne 504
38 Jancouver 497
39 TomJelte 489
40 Torcia86 471
41 JosephD 470
42 Kazistuta 469
43 PremierAndrew 428
44 GodChild 407
45 Hugo87 404
46 NairoQ 401
47 GeraintTooFast 396
48 AmisVelo 391
49 Armchair_Cyclist 373
49 JustSomeGuy 373
51 Josedin 313
Collective_Wisdom 658
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13 May 2016 10:31

This one stage early on is enough to justify my selection:
Points gained:
1 Murali 75 (Fuglsang, Zakarin, Pozzovivo and Uran)


Of course, counts for nothing for final result as the real riders havent started earning yet.
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13 May 2016 12:46

Pelucchi out. I hoped he would get some minor sprint points but once again he proved to be the worst climber possible.
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13 May 2016 16:41

The popular budget pick for sprint points goes the way of the popular budget pick for GC
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13 May 2016 20:28

Stage 7 Another shot for the sprinters

Guaranteed Points
Kittel's relatively low price and ability to beat the field if he is there means that any sprint in which he does not feature is unlikely to yield many points.

GREIPEL André 70 0 team
NIZZOLO Giacomo 40 0 team
MODOLO Sacha 25 0 team
DUMOULIN Tom 18 0 team
EWAN Caleb 15 2 teams
BATTAGLIN Enrico 10 10 teams
TRENTIN Matteo 7 0 team
PORSEV Alexander 5 5 teams
TSATEVICH Alexei 3 0 team
RUFFONI Nicola 2 23 teams
VIVIANI Elia 1 6 teams


Bottom of the projected rankings yesterday, stage winner today for Josedin.
1 Josedin 16 (Ewan and Viviani)
2 BluesInTheBottle 15 (Ewan)
3 Minessa 12 (Battaglin and Ruffoni)
4 GodChild, Murrjt 11 (Battaglin and Viviani)
6 AmisVelo, Armchair_Cyclist, Caruut, DJW, GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Torcia86 10
13 Comodoro, LightBing, Rote_Laterne 7
16 JosephD, Yellow_Knight 5
18 Scrool07 3
19 Eighteen Ruffoni teams 2
37 BicycleBo, PremierAndrew 1


Top ten in the guaranteed points:
1 Minessa 263
2 LightBing 260
3 Not_My_Circus 223
4 Yellow_Knight 220
5 Murrjt 219
6 BluesInTheBottle 215
6 Del1962 215
8 Mellow_Velo 213
9 Carlo_Algatrensig 210
9 Joelsim 210

Projected Points

Nothing much more exciting in terms of point change than Chaves losing 9 seconds and therefore a few points.
EWAN Caleb 15 points 2 teams
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 15 1
URAN URAN Rigoberto 15 28
KÜNG Stefan 15 3
NIBALI Vincenzo 15 11
ROCHE Nicolas 14 1
BATTAGLIN Enrico 13 10
...
PELUCCHI Matteo -15 18
CUNEGO Damiano -30 2
KITTEL Marcel -30 16
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban -45 2

Only marginal gains and losses:
1 Rote_Laterne 32
2 Comodoro 31
3 NairoQ 30
4 AmisVelo 28
5 TomJelte 27
6 Armchair_Cyclist 22
7 Hakkie2 21
8 JustSomeGuy 18
9 SemirS 17
10 Kabete 15
11 18Valve 12
11 Hugo87 12
11 Josedin 12
14 GeraintTooFast 11
14 Torcia86 11
16 GodChild 9
17 Barmaher 6
17 Jancouver 6
19 JosephD 3
20 BicycleBoy 2
20 Kazistuta 2
20 Murali 2
23 BluesInTheBottle 0
23 Scrool07 0
25 Bbass -1
26 Murrjt -3
27 PremierAndrew -4
28 Crevaison -5
28 Mellow_Velo -5
28 Shalgo -5
31 ArchieBoy -7
31 GPBlanco -7
33 Tigerion -15
34 Capt_Cavman -17
35 Del1962 -18
35 Leadbelly -18
35 LosBrolin -18
35 Search -18
39 DJW -22
39 Not_My_Circus -22
41 Minessa -23
42 LightBing -26
43 Laarsland -28
43 Yellow_Knight -28
45 Joelsim -32
46 Carlo_Algatrensig -36
46 Vladimir -36
48 Trudgin -39
49 Caruut -43
50 Postmanhat -45
51 Fauniera -52
Collective_Wisdom -6

The only change in the top ten standings is B'bass sneaking in in tenth:
1 Minessa 1203
2 Murali 1118
3 LightBing 1067
4 Not_My_Circus 1033
5 Barmaher 931
6 BicycleBoy 891
7 Mellow_Velo 880
8 GPBlanco 861
9 BluesInTheBottle 857
10 Bbass 819

Tomorrow might see a bit more movement, as long as there is nt too much being held in reserve for the time trial.
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14 May 2016 16:58

Stage 8 Sterrato
A real shake up: more than might have been expected from one cat 2 hill

Guaranteed Points
Only one of the breakaway survivors was selected, but he was fairly popular
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 88 0 teams
MONTAGUTI Matteo 40 0 teams
MOSER Moreno 25 0 teams
VENTER Jaco 15 0 teams
DE MARCHI Alessandro 10 15 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 7 1 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 5 9 teams
LANDA MEANA Mikel 3 28 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 2 2 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 1 16 teams

Points gained:
1 Kabete 18 (De Marchi, Kruijswijk, Landa)
2 GPBlanco 16 (De Marchi, Kruijswijk, Zakarin)
3= Bbass, Shalgo 14 (De Marchi, Landa, Zakarin)
5= ArchieBoy, Capt_Cavman, Jancouver, JustSomeGuy, Laarsland, PremierAndrew 13
11 Caruut 12
12= Mellow_Velo, Murali 11
14= AmisVelo, Josedin 10
16= 18Valve, DJW, LosBrolin, SemirS 8
20 Kazistuta 7
21 LightBing 6
22= BicycleBoy, Del1962, Postmanhat 5
25= Carlo_Algatrensig, Hakkie2, Joelsim, Leadbelly, Yellow_Knight 4
30= Armchair_Cyclist, Fauniera, GeraintTooFast, GodChild, Hugo87, JosephD, Murrjt, Rote_Laterne, Tigerion 3
39= Barmaher, Crevaison, Minessa, Scrool07, Trudgin 1

GP standings:
LightBing and Minessa continue to take turns at the top of this ranking.
1 LightBing 266
2 Minessa 264
3 Mellow_Velo 224
3 Yellow_Knight 224
5 Not_My_Circus 223
6 Murrjt 222
7 Del1962 220
8 BluesInTheBottle 215
9 Carlo_Algatrensig 214
9 DJW 214
9 Joelsim 214
12 Laarsland 195
13 Fauniera 190
13 Search 190
15 Capt_Cavman 184
16 Tigerion 174
17 BicycleBoy 97
18 Murali 91
19 Scrool07 86
20 GPBlanco 83
20 Josedin 83
22 Bbass 76
23 ArchieBoy 63
24 GodChild 57
24 PremierAndrew 57
26 Shalgo 56
26 Trudgin 56
28 Barmaher 54
28 Rote_Laterne 54
30 Crevaison 53
31 18Valve 52
31 LosBrolin 52
33 Jancouver 48
33 SemirS 48
35 Hakkie2 47
36 Comodoro 46
36 Kabete 46
38 Caruut 39
39 Kazistuta 38
40 JosephD 35
41 Leadbelly 34
42 AmisVelo 30
43 TomJelte 24
44 GeraintTooFast 22
44 Hugo87 22
46 Armchair_Cyclist 20
46 JustSomeGuy 20
48 Torcia86 15
49 Postmanhat 12
49 Vladimir 12
51 NairoQ 10
Collective_Wisdom 49

Projected Points

Main selected rider gains and losses:
Had anyone chosen Brambilla, his score would have gone up by 553 points today, but is likely to fall by a couple of hundred at least tomorrow
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 97 2 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 80 9 teams
NIBALI Vincenzo 75 11 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 59 16 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 57 1 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto 55 28 teams
MAJKA Rafal 53 8 teams
LANDA MEANA Mikel 48 28 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico 46 9 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 26 1 team
FIRSANOV Sergey 20 9 teams
...
VAN POPPEL Boy -15 3 teams
VIVIANI Elia -22 6 teams
ROCHE Nicolas -38 1 team
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin -72 1 team
JUNGELS Bob -169 4 teams
FUGLSANG Jakob -266 4 teams

Team changes on the day:
If you picked Fuglsang, look away now.
1 18Valve 200
2 GPBlanco 199
3 LightBing 194
4 Kabete 193
5 SemirS 183
6 Crevaison 180
6 TomJelte 180
8 Del1962 178
9 DJW 177
10 Comodoro 176
11 Caruut 175
12 LosBrolin 169
13 Vladimir 157
14 Hakkie2 150
15 JosephD 148
16 Postmanhat 144
17 Mellow_Velo 139
18 JustSomeGuy 138
19 Shalgo 137
19 AmisVelo 137
21 NairoQ 131
22 GeraintTooFast 128
23 Search 127
24 Hugo87 118
25 Capt_Cavman 112
25 Kazistuta 112
27 Laarsland 111
27 Fauniera 111
29 Yellow_Knight 109
30 Leadbelly 105
31 Carlo_Algatrensig 104
32 Torcia86 102
33 Scrool07 100
34 Joelsim 98
34 Armchair_Cyclist 98
36 Jancouver 91
37 Tigerion 87
38 PremierAndrew 86
39 GodChild 73
40 Trudgin 55
41 Rote_Laterne 48
42 Murrjt 17
43 Josedin -5
44 Barmaher -32
45 BicycleBoy -33
46 Bbass -51
47 BluesInTheBottle -76
48 Murali -89
49 ArchieBoy -154
50 Minessa -155
51 Not_My_Circus -193
Collective_Wisdom 159

Standings
Lightbing's lead may look substantial, but the expected rises of Nibali and Landa would see it dissipate very quickly if expectations are fulfilled. Previous leader Minessa hangs on well despite the loss of most of Fuglsang's points, but is also overtaken by GPBlanco, who leaps from 8th to second. Del1962, DJW, Crevaison, Yellow Knight and Carlo Algatrensig all jump into the top ten.
1 LightBing 1261
2 GPBlanco 1060
3 Minessa 1048
4 Murali 1029
5 Mellow_Velo 1019
6 Del1962 977
7 DJW 956
8 Crevaison 924
8 Yellow_Knight 924
10 Carlo_Algatrensig 899
10 Barmaher 899
12 Hakkie2 877
13 Joelsim 864
14 BicycleBoy 858
15 Not_My_Circus 840
16 18Valve 834
17 Kabete 825
18 LosBrolin 802
19 BluesInTheBottle 781
20 Scrool07 771
21 SemirS 769
22 Bbass 768
23 Shalgo 752
24 Search 737
25 Comodoro 733
26 Capt_Cavman 711
27 TomJelte 696
27 Tigerion 696
29 Fauniera 682
30 Leadbelly 664
31 Vladimir 646
31 Laarsland 646
33 Caruut 643
34 JosephD 621
35 ArchieBoy 618
36 Trudgin 615
37 Postmanhat 606
38 Jancouver 594
39 Murrjt 591
40 Torcia86 584
40 Rote_Laterne 584
42 Kazistuta 583
43 NairoQ 562
44 AmisVelo 556
45 GeraintTooFast 535
46 Hugo87 534
47 JustSomeGuy 529
48 PremierAndrew 510
49 Armchair_Cyclist 493
50 GodChild 489
51 Josedin 320
Collective_Wisdom 811

Tomorrow might bring about almost as much change.
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14 May 2016 17:02

Spent a long time deciding between the similarly priced Kittel and Viviani... thought Kittel would abandon after stage 7 while Viviani would go all the way and go for the points jersey, showing that he's at a similar level to the two German sprinting superstars.

How wrong was I :o
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14 May 2016 18:50

PremierAndrew wrote:Spent a long time deciding between the similarly priced Kittel and Viviani... thought Kittel would abandon after stage 7 while Viviani would go all the way and go for the points jersey, showing that he's at a similar level to the two German sprinting superstars.

How wrong was I :o


Five other people made the same error, and two joined me in thinking that Boy Van Poppel might pick up the occasional sprint top ten.

The only teams that still have all nine riders are Mellow Velo, Not My Circus, Murali, Barmaher, 18Valve, Comodoro, Caruut and Just Some Guy; Premier Andrew and God Child are down to six riders each.
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15 May 2016 06:04

Armchair cyclist wrote:Stage 8 Sterrato
A real shake up: more than might have been expected from one cat 2 hill
...
Standings
Lightbing's lead may look substantial, but the expected rises of Nibali and Landa would see it dissipate very quickly if expectations are fulfilled. Previous leader Minessa hangs on well despite the loss of most of Fuglsang's points, but is also overtaken by GPBlanco, who leaps from 8th to second. Del1962, DJW, Crevaison, Yellow Knight and Carlo Algatrensig all jump into the top ten.
1 LightBing 1261
2 GPBlanco 1060
3 Minessa 1048
4 Murali 1029
5 Mellow_Velo 1019
....
Tomorrow might bring about almost as much change.


despite fugslang having one bad day, minessa and me have only lost 2 spots.


today's stage might be shuffle a bit more. expect real shake up only next week.
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15 May 2016 07:13

Kittel just abandoned the giro.
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15 May 2016 15:52

really horrible stage!

All the crashes and poor poor zakarin has kind of shaken the GC thoroughly
great to see fugslang back to top-10 after a bad day.
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16 May 2016 00:26

Stage 9 A wet time trial

Sorry its late: I was out all day and still haven't seen any highlights yet.

Guaranteed Points

Not what we expected, and not a result that any of us had in mind when we selected our teams:
ROGLIC Primoz 70 0 team
BRÄNDLE Matthias 40 0 team
LAENGEN Vegard Stake 25 0 team
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 18 0 team
CANCELLARA Fabian 15 0 team
VOROBYEV Anton 10 2 teams
JUNGELS Bob 7 4 teams
KÜNG Stefan 5 3 teams
VAN EMDEN Jos 3 1 team
TJALLINGII Maarten 2 0 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 1 1 team

1= Barmaher, Not_My_Circus, SemirS 10
4= BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, Bbass 7
7 Mellow_Velo, Joelsim, Murrjt 5
10 Jancouver 1
Barmaher had both Jungels and Van Emden, everyone else who scored only had one scoring rider. Which is one more than 80% of us managed.


Projected Points
Changes today are not those that wuould have been projected
JUNGELS Bob 286 4 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 212 1 team
LANDA MEANA Mikel 30 28 teams
HESJEDAL Ryder 24 9 teams
FUGLSANG Jakob 23 4 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni 12 1 team
VOROBYEV Anton 10 2 teams
...

MAJKA Rafal -15 8 teams
FIRSANOV Sergey -20 9 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico -38 9 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven -50 9 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -50 1 teams
KITTEL Marcel -55 16 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto -100 28 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban -111 2 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur -255 16 teams

And when that is applied to our teams, we see a big negative impact: even 2 of the teams to benefit from Jungels' (temporary?) resurgence also suffered Zakarin related losses.
1 Jancouver 214
2 BluesInTheBottle 116
3 BicycleBoy 114
4 Bbass 61
5 Hugo87 54
6 JustSomeGuy 36
7 Rote_Laterne 30
7 GeraintTooFast 30
9 Armchair_Cyclist 28
10 Josedin 9
11 Murrjt -16
12 18Valve -20
13 LosBrolin -38
14 ArchieBoy -39
15 Laarsland -42
16 Postmanhat -45
17 GodChild -46
18 PremierAndrew -48
19 Barmaher -77
20 Fauniera -83
21 Torcia86 -87
22 JosephD -100
23 AmisVelo -102
23 NairoQ -102
25 SemirS -112
26 Comodoro -115
26 TomJelte -115
28 Capt_Cavman -119
29 Tigerion -120
30 Not_My_Circus -122
31 Kabete -126
32 Vladimir -149
33 Kazistuta -150
34 Search -155
35 Caruut -163
36 DJW -175
37 Leadbelly -201
38 Trudgin -241
39 Del1962 -243
40 Shalgo -247
41 Scrool07 -270
42 Joelsim -275
43 Yellow_Knight -276
44 Carlo_Algatrensig -284
45 GPBlanco -312
46 Hakkie2 -315
47 Murali -366
48 Minessa -387
49 Crevaison -415
50 Mellow_Velo -425
51 LightBing -460
Collective_Wisdom -325

So the very different table, if tomorrow were the day after the Giro rather than merely a rest day, emerges:
1 BicycleBoy 972
2 BluesInTheBottle 897
3 Bbass 829
4 Barmaher 822
5 18Valve 814
6 Jancouver 808
7 LightBing 801
8 DJW 781
9 LosBrolin 764
10 GPBlanco 748
11 Del1962 734
12 Not_My_Circus 718
13 Kabete 699
14 Murali 663
15 Minessa 661
16 SemirS 657
17 Yellow_Knight 648
18 Comodoro 618
19 Carlo_Algatrensig 615
20 Rote_Laterne 614
21 Laarsland 604
22 Fauniera 599
23 Mellow_Velo 594
24 Capt_Cavman 592
25 Joelsim 589
26 Hugo87 588
27 Search 582
28 TomJelte 581
29 ArchieBoy 579
30 Tigerion 576
31 Murrjt 575
32 JustSomeGuy 565
32 GeraintTooFast 565
34 Hakkie2 562
35 Postmanhat 561
36 Armchair_Cyclist 521
36 JosephD 521
38 Crevaison 509
39 Shalgo 505
40 Scrool07 501
41 Torcia86 497
41 Vladimir 497
43 Caruut 480
44 Leadbelly 463
45 PremierAndrew 462
46 NairoQ 460
47 AmisVelo 454
48 GodChild 443
49 Kazistuta 433
50 Trudgin 374
51 Josedin 329
Collective_Wisdom 486

The top four are the four teams that have Jungels: higher mountains will probably change that situation.
Only three of the top ten were in that elevated group yesterday: 22 teams went up or down by 10 or more places, of which 6 moved by 20 or more, the most volatile being Jancouver going up 32 places, and Crevaison falling by 30.
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16 May 2016 01:53

Well, Amador is most likely to drop down by providing domestique duties to Piti again.
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16 May 2016 18:30

12 riders have withdrawn from the Giro, including 7 selected for our game, including the most popular pick of all (Peraud) and 2 more out of the top 9 infrequency of selection (Kittel and Pelucchi).

The only teams that still have a full complement of 9 riders are 18Valve, Barmaher, Caruut, Comodoro, JustSomeGuy and Murali.

8 riders left: Bbass, BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast, Hakkie2, Hugo87, Jancouver, Kabete, Kazistuta, Mellow_Velo, NairoQ, Not_My_Circus, Postmanhat, Rote_Laterne, Shalgo, TomJelte, Trudgin

7 still going: AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, Armchair_Cyclist, BluesInTheBottle, Capt_Cavman, Carlo_Algatrensig, Crevaison, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Josedin, JosephD, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LightBing, LosBrolin, Scrool07, SemirS, Torcia86, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight

Down to 6: Del1962, DJW, , GodChild, Minessa, Murrjt, PremierAndrew, Search, Tigerion
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Re: 2016 Giro CQ Game

17 May 2016 13:20

There goes the 2nd most common pick...
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Re: 2016 Giro CQ Game

17 May 2016 19:31

Heck, seems like a good day for me with Ciccone and Atapuma!
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17 May 2016 22:31

Stage 10 Sausage devastation

A bit of a shake-up was expected today, but not the effective removal of more than half the teams from contention. But first, the relatively mild news of the Guaranteed points

CICCONE Giulio 70 pts 3 teams
ROVNY Ivan 40 0 team
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 25 13 teams
JUNGELS Bob 18 4 teams
BROWN Nathan 15 0 team
CUNEGO Damiano 10 2 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 7 1 team
VISCONTI Giovanni 5 1 team
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 3 1 team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 2 2 teams
FUGLSANG Jakob 1 4 teams

The 18 point/day pink jersey bonus, which has not been much of a factor thus far, is likely to benefit the four Bs that have Jungels for at least a few days.
1 NairoQ 95 (Ciccone and Atapuma)
2= Fauniera, Leadbelly 70 (Ciccone)
4 Postmanhat 27 (The Colombian duo)
5= Eleven more Atapuma teams 25
16= The four Bs 18 (Jungels)
20 Trudgin 15
21 Vladimir 10
22 Jancouver 7
23 Kazistuta 3
24 Caruut 2
25= Fuglsang's fans 1

1 LightBing 266
2 Minessa 265
3 Fauniera 260
4 Yellow_Knight 249
5 BluesInTheBottle 240
6 Not_My_Circus 234
7 Mellow_Velo 229
8 Murrjt 227
9 Del1962 220
9 Laarsland 220
11 Joelsim 219
12 Carlo_Algatrensig 214
12 DJW 214
14 Capt_Cavman 209
15 Search 190
16 Tigerion 174
17 BicycleBoy 122
18 NairoQ 105
19 Leadbelly 104
20 Bbass 101
21 Murali 92
22 Scrool07 86
23 GPBlanco 83
23 Josedin 83
23 SemirS 83
26 Barmaher 82
26 PremierAndrew 82
28 Shalgo 81
29 Crevaison 78
30 Kabete 71
30 Trudgin 71
32 ArchieBoy 64
33 GodChild 57
34 Jancouver 56
35 AmisVelo 55
36 Rote_Laterne 54
37 18Valve 52
37 LosBrolin 52
39 GeraintTooFast 47
39 Hakkie2 47
41 Comodoro 46
42 Armchair_Cyclist 45
43 Caruut 41
43 Kazistuta 41
45 Postmanhat 39
46 JosephD 35
47 TomJelte 24
48 Hugo87 22
48 Vladimir 22
50 JustSomeGuy 20
51 Torcia86 15
Collective_Wisdom 49

Projected points
JUNGELS Bob 143 4 teams
CICCONE Giulio 113 3 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 103 1 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 67 1 team
CUNEGO Damiano 40 2 teams
MAJKA Rafal 40 8 teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 39 13 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 33 2 teams
PIRAZZI Stefano 31 10 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 30 16 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni 27 1 team
FUGLSANG Jakob 24 4 teams
...
LANDA MEANA Mikel -165 28 teams
(Other than Landa, the worst loss of points by a selected rider were Kudus and Kung at -7)

1 BluesInTheBottle 197
2 Barmaher 196
3 NairoQ 159
4 BicycleBoy 157
5 Kazistuta 117
6 Torcia86 116
7 Vladimir 112
8 Crevaison 99
9 Scrool07 98
10 GPBlanco 97
11 Trudgin 93
12 Murali 86
13 Caruut 77
14 Not_My_Circus 74
15 Minessa 71
16 AmisVelo 56
17 Comodoro 52
17 TomJelte 52
19 Mellow_Velo 45
20 LightBing 44
21 Josedin 32
22 Del1962 20
23 Search 12
24 Bbass 1
25 Leadbelly -10
26 Fauniera -38
27 Postmanhat -48
28 Jancouver -55
29 Capt_Cavman -81
30 Laarsland -86
31 Shalgo -88
32 Hakkie2 -91
33 Yellow_Knight -94
34 ArchieBoy -96
34 Kabete -96
36 PremierAndrew -102
37 Tigerion -111
38 JosephD -112
38 SemirS -112
40 GeraintTooFast -120
41 Carlo_Algatrensig -121
42 Murrjt -122
43 Armchair_Cyclist -125
44 LosBrolin -131
45 GodChild -138
46 Joelsim -142
47 DJW -150
48 Hugo87 -155
48 JustSomeGuy -155
50 Rote_Laterne -161
51 18Valve -167
Collective_Wisdom -123
All the Landa teams are in negative territory apart from B'bass, for whom Jungels and Zakarin just make up for Landa and Kung.

Standings

Top three have Jungels but not Landa: B'bass has both, and fell to 6th.
1 BicycleBoy 1129
2 BluesInTheBottle 1094
3 Barmaher 1018
4 GPBlanco 845
4 LightBing 845
6 Bbass 830
7 Not_My_Circus 792
8 Del1962 754
9 Jancouver 753
10 Murali 749
11 Minessa 732
12 Comodoro 670
13 18Valve 647
14 Mellow_Velo 639
15 LosBrolin 633
15 TomJelte 633
17 DJW 631
18 NairoQ 619
19 Torcia86 613
20 Vladimir 609
21 Crevaison 608
22 Kabete 603
23 Scrool07 599
24 Search 594
25 Fauniera 561
26 Caruut 557
27 Yellow_Knight 554
28 Kazistuta 550
29 SemirS 545
30 Laarsland 518
31 Postmanhat 513
32 Capt_Cavman 511
33 AmisVelo 510
34 Carlo_Algatrensig 494
35 ArchieBoy 483
36 Hakkie2 471
37 Trudgin 467
38 Tigerion 465
39 Leadbelly 453
39 Murrjt 453
39 Rote_Laterne 453
42 Joelsim 447
43 GeraintTooFast 445
44 Hugo87 433
45 Shalgo 417
46 JustSomeGuy 410
47 JosephD 409
48 Armchair_Cyclist 396
49 Josedin 361
50 PremierAndrew 360
51 GodChild 305
Collective_Wisdom 363

NairoQ jumps 28 places: just behind, Torcia86 and Vladimir also had 20+ places of upward movement. Not My Circus, Del1962 and Murali move into the top ten, replacing 18Valve, Los Brolin and DJW: of those in the top ten, CPBlanco, up 6 spots from 10th, has the best move of the day.

We might be on course for the worst ever performance by a Collective Wisdom team in one of these games. 48 teams are beating it: even I'm beating it.

Of top sprinters, the two that were chosen most (Kittel and Viviani) are both out, so I predict that neither daily points nor projected points will do much until Friday. B'bass, Barmaher, Bicycle Boy and BluesInTheBottle getting Pink bonus point each day might be as dramatic as it gets.
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