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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

29 Sep 2017 14:17

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:This new WT calendar provides a lot of points at the end of the season. Imagine some second rate GC rider who's a rare pick wins Turkey and Guangxi because nobody cares about them and they'll probably have a poor field and people will be out of shape. Could cause quite a shock in the rankings. :D


It's true - the end of the year can always have some funny, weird runs, and since lots of riders have already ended their seasons, there can be some imbalance in CQ teams. These back-to-back-to-back-to-back hilly Italian races are always interesting for that, as each is a lot of points (3 1.HCs and Lombardia)... and then who knows about Turkey and Guangxi. There is separation at the top of the field, but the end of the season could be more engaging for a number of teams than in years past.

Also, I think this is the first time I've had time to make a non-update post in this thread since, like, April. It's been a busy year, and it's maybe somewhat of a good thing that my team is performing so anonymously because I haven't had the energy to follow closely. I look forward to the end of the season though!
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

29 Sep 2017 14:43

skidmark wrote:Also, I think this is the first time I've had time to make a non-update post in this thread since, like, April. It's been a busy year, and it's maybe somewhat of a good thing that my team is performing so anonymously because I haven't had the energy to follow closely. I look forward to the end of the season though!
I would like to thank you for the weekly updates, even you're busy. I appreciate the efforts. :)

I had another good week last week, which resulted in a +6 move and a top 20 spot. I hope I can hold this position, it would be a nice result, although I'm still gutted about some crashes and injuries (Betancur and Gesink were both performing on a high level when they crashed out of the Vuelta / Tour, and Gaviria could've scored some more points if he didn't have that injury-break).

I don't know what I can expect from my team and how strong my team is in comparison with the teams around me in the classification, so I still have to see if a top 20 spot is a realistic goal. In this prospect, a possible 110 points from Lutsenko in the Tour of Almaty would certainly come in handy.
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

02 Oct 2017 23:50

Update #38: Top Spot Gets Tighter

Well, it's almost the end of the season - Lombardia coming up, and some big-name riders have already shut down their season post-worlds, with more to come after this weekend. That means that part of the speculation as to how the standings are going to look at the end will depend on who has the most riders racing through October, with the new WT-level points available still in a couple of stage races. This week brought things closer together at the top, which could make for an exciting finish.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 ItalianGigolo 502
2 AupaPyama 449
3 minessa 384
4 Total Package 383
4 Russell23 383

The week belongs to ItalianGigolo, who gets a pretty-decent 502 points from a smattering of HC and .1 races. Rare pick Andrea Pasqualon (3 teams) led the charge for ItalianGigolo, netting 128 points and a .1 victory. The ubiquitous Viviani also picked up 100 more points, and the 'how the hell did this guy show so little for years and then bust out this year' award winner of 2017, Mattia Cattaneo scored 83 more points to move his season total to 654, also known as 'almost 300 points more than he has scored combined since he started scoring CQ points in 2010'. Second place AupaPyama also had Pasqualon and Viviani, with rare pick Dan McLay finally scoring some big points this year. minessa just sneaks into third place by a point over two other teams, with some Nibali/Viviani points, plus 53 points from unique pick Bakhtiyar Kozhatayev.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team up/down
1 torcia_86 (+9)
1 R_O_Shipman (+9)
1 zlev11 (+9)
4 Russell23 (+8)
5 Total Package (+7)
5 AupaPyama (+7)

A three way tie at the top! And none of the top 3 from the previous ranking either. torcia_86, R_0_Shipman, and zlev11 (collectively, they're called 'underscores and numbers') share the top spot, and also largely share where they are getting their points from this week... all three teams had Viviani (100 points) and Egan Bernal (66 points), and while the 1st and 2nd place team were two of the three teams who had Alexey Lutsenko (146 points), zlev11 got major points from rare pick Vincenzo Nibali (143 points). A similar look, and a similar result.

This Month's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this month
1 zlev11 2163
2 CQmanager 2158
3 snccdcno 2127
4 Hugo Koblet 2115
5 Popchu 2102

zlev11 takes the September honors by the slimmest of margins, and their team was a consistently high performer even though they didn't win a week. Their team was led by Nibali (590 points between the Vuelta and this week), Zakarin (407), Gaviria (310); Lopez and Viviani were both over 200 points and Aru, Benoot and Bernal all over 100 on the month. Last week's runaway winner CQmanager has to settle for second, and snccdcno nabs third.

This Month's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down this month
1 zlev11 (+23)
2 CQmanager (+20)
3 kabete (+17)
4 snccdcno (+15)
5 Popchu (+13)
5 ansimi (+13)

This list sees the same teams in the top 2. kabete nabs third place with a good ensemble performance, getting a bunch of points from the likes of Gaviria, Boom, Viviani, Kung, Van Garderen, Aru, Benoot and Alaphilippe.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 Blues in the bottle 241
2 fauniera 226
3 GP Blanco 222
4 the asian 221
5 scrooll07 214
6 Kazistuta 197

No one close to the top scored this week, but it was close! fauniera was just outside the points, in 16th place. In other news, the one team that had yet to score any points this season ended up solidly in the top 10 and is on the board! All 131 participants have now scored at least a point in this competition, I believe the first time that's happened since it started a couple of years ago (I proudly scored 4 points for my second scoring week of the season, to move up to 128th in the standings).

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) the asian 14962
2 (-) fauniera 14867
3 (-) GP Blanco 14562
4 (+1) Kazistuta 14158
5 (-1) HelgeBlendet 14154
6 (+1) del1962 14054
7 (-1) Blues in the bottle 14018
8 (-) Squire 13781
9 (-) Hugo Koblet 13778
10 (-) Wallenquist 13753

The place movement may be small, but there is intrigue at the top. fauniera has closed the gap this week by scoring 303 points to the asian's 188, which means the lead is just 95 points. GP Blanco holds solid in third, and there are some pretty close races in the rest of the top 10. This week, combined with the release of any startlists for the October WT races, will help clarify the picture for the race to the end.

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03 Oct 2017 12:07

Thanks for the update. Another non performing week for my team.
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03 Oct 2017 23:05

I seriously need someone on my team to step up in order to keep my top 10 place. The teams behind me are packed with successful Italians.

The late season has not been kind to me. From being in and around the podium mid season, I'm now struggling to maintain a top 10. A lot of my picks were actually made with potential for late season scoring in mind, but most of them have run out of steam. I could've done with Roson riding the WT stage races for Caja Rural, but it doesn't seem like it's happening.
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

05 Oct 2017 14:31

Thanks to Uran and Gaudu i go from 100 points down to 100 points ahead (approx.) today. :cool:
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

05 Oct 2017 17:55

fauniera wrote:Thanks to Uran and Gaudu i go from 100 points down to 100 points ahead (approx.) today. :cool:


And I guess you're not done ;)
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06 Oct 2017 10:15

Uran will definitely swing this in Fauniera's favour.
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06 Oct 2017 10:46

Martinez finally showing why I kept faith in him all this time. C'mon boy, you can do it, win the Tour of Turkey!
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

08 Oct 2017 21:54

Well, this has been, by far, my best week of the season. Nibali gets north of 350 points, and with only six teams picking him, I'd imagine I'm in the race for the weekly title. What's more, another rare pick in Bauhaus finally shows his class in a big-points race, beating Griepel, Kittel, Groenwegen, Kristoff etc to pick up 84 points for 2nd in Germany. And other fairly rare pick Lampaert picks up 42 more in Paris-Tours, plus of course the ever-popular Aru getting 90 in Lombardia. It's too little too late in the overall, but at least it's nice to see it all come together at least once, even if it's the last consequential weekend of the season.
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09 Oct 2017 08:46

The great week for Nibali reminded me of this:

Netserk wrote:Regarding your team, skidmark, it will be interesting to see if the two of your rare picks (Nibali and Grosu, price 1380) will be able to beat two of your popular omissions (Gav and Ewan, price 1385 [your team has 32 points to spare, so it is a possible substitution]).

I don't really know how much to expect from Grosu, but it is obvious that much depends on Nibali for your combo to outscore the popular alternative. The rarity of your picks and the popularity of the omissions will make that matchup likely to be deciding for your team's upper ceiling. Best of luck to you, such a shame that the competition in the Giro is so fierce ;)


Nibali: 1217 -> 1822
Grosu: 163 -> 158

Gaviria: 833 -> 1068
Ewan: 552 -> 717

skidmark's combo: 1380 -> 1980
Popular combo: 1385 -> 1785

I was very skeptical if the rare combo would outscore the popular one, but well done.
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Oct 2017 10:55

It's a bit too early to tell, as both Gaviria and Ewan will race the Tour of Guangxi.
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09 Oct 2017 11:53

Ugh, don't remind of the crappy ending the modern seasons have. Two crappy Chinese races as the last ones of .1 or above... Sadly it's only now it hits me that Piemonte was cancelled this year :o There should be room enough for more classics (with good start lists) after the worlds.
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Oct 2017 12:57

With Tre Valli Varesine taking place in October now, there simply is no place for Piemonte. You can't have a classic every day for a week.
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09 Oct 2017 13:47

You could easily have Lombardia a week later. It used to be like that.
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09 Oct 2017 21:48

Netserk wrote:The great week for Nibali reminded me of this:

Netserk wrote:Regarding your team, skidmark, it will be interesting to see if the two of your rare picks (Nibali and Grosu, price 1380) will be able to beat two of your popular omissions (Gav and Ewan, price 1385 [your team has 32 points to spare, so it is a possible substitution]).

I don't really know how much to expect from Grosu, but it is obvious that much depends on Nibali for your combo to outscore the popular alternative. The rarity of your picks and the popularity of the omissions will make that matchup likely to be deciding for your team's upper ceiling. Best of luck to you, such a shame that the competition in the Giro is so fierce ;)


Nibali: 1217 -> 1822
Grosu: 163 -> 158

Gaviria: 833 -> 1068
Ewan: 552 -> 717

skidmark's combo: 1380 -> 1980
Popular combo: 1385 -> 1785

I was very skeptical if the rare combo would outscore the popular one, but well done.


That's funny, this week also reminded me of that post! I was gonna post something about it right after this update - thanks for saving me the trouble of tooting my own horn.

And yeah, Gav/Ewan can totally rack up the points in China, but either way, missing out on those guys was definitely a big fear after Ewan came ripping out of the gates. And also either way, I think we can all agree that Grosu was a stupid pick.
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09 Oct 2017 22:12

Yeah, 241 points in Down Under for sprints was bonkers. But Gaviria could easily have scored more points, as late as in Tours even.
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Oct 2017 22:15

Update #39: Late Season Drama Sees CQ Game Lead Change

Well. The weekend of Il Lombardia, in many ways the 'traditional' season end, has come upon us, and the curtain is starting to come down on the game. But with the new WT rules and new China race, there are still some big points out there to shake things up. With the startlists and lineups almost set, depending on your team you may be feeling hopeful that you might move up a spot or a few, or you may just be starting to look when the Australian nationals might be so that you can look forward to a blank slate for next year's game. I mentioned last week that with alot of riders ending their seasons already, there could be a few teams leapfrogging quite a bit in the last bit of the season, and that was certainly the case this week.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 zlev11 727
2 tom_jelte 723
3 ItalianGigolo 708
4 minessa 702
5 skidmark 699

With Nibali's big week of 352 points, one would think that this week's winner would be led by that haul. One would be right, but this week's winner only finished a mere 4 points ahead of a non-Nibali team! zlev11 basically rode Nibali, Aru (198 points), Pozzovivo (105) and Bernal (52 more in a ridiculous year before he becomes a Skybot and scores 200 next year) to victory. tom_jelte, however, came a very impressive second with the aforementioned Aru, Bernal, and Pozzovivo, but also 165 from rare pick Uran, and 140 from unique pick Sam Bennett, who won the Munsterland Giro. ItalianGigolo also scoops the Nibali-centered teams to claim the final podium spot, with contributions from Aru and Pozzo, but also Moscon, Villella, Pasqualon and Pelucchi.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team up/down
1 zlev11 (+15)
2 skidmark (+13)
3 EvansIsTheBest (+10)
3 minessa (+10)
5 adamski101 (+9)
5 PunchingRouleur (+9)
5 Kjellus (+9)

zlev11 doubles up here, leaping an impressive 15 spots in the table. In second... hey, I haven't gotten to write about myself at all this year! Well, team skidmark finally makes an impression in a largely anonymous year, getting to the point where he doesn't regret picking Nibali, and getting some nice contributions from Aru and relatively rare picks Bauhaus and Lampaert. EITB and minessa (two other long-time participants who have been solid but not too much in the fray this year) tie for third spot, both jumping double digits.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 Blues in the bottle 241
2 fauniera 226
3 GP Blanco 222
4 the asian 221
5 scrooll07 214
6 Kazistuta 197

There is no movement at the top of the Green Jersey competition, with 6 teams still within a weekly victory of the lead. Five teams in the top 15 of the week did move into the top 20 overall in the competition, with zlev11, ItalianGigolo, and Geraint Too Fast all gaining points in the top 10.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (+1) fauniera 15422
2 (-1) the asian 15332
3 (-) GP Blanco 14884
4 (+1) HelgeBlendet 14553
5 (-1) Kazistuta 14516
6 (+4) Wallenquist 14445
7 (+4) tom_jelte 14379
8 (-2) del1962 14362
9 (-) Hugo Koblet 14320
10 (-3) Blues in the bottle 14255

We have a new leader. fauniera had another strong week, with 555 points to the asian's 370, and now fauniera is in the lead by 90 points. I haven't had time to do the comparison of who has which riders in the season-closing races, but after the asian led for much of the last few months, it now seems like fauniera has some momentum. Both are quite a bit clear of third place, and third place a few hundred clear of fourth, so GP Blanco has a good chance of locking up a podium spot. As for the overall, tom_jelte rides a standout week into the top 10, while Squire falls just out to 11th after a long, long time in the top 10 this year.

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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

10 Oct 2017 07:13

Thanks for the update skidmark.

Turkey: Consonni, Minali and Albanese for me. Hoping for points in the sprint stages, as the competition is pretty weak. The asian has no starters there at all, if i haven't overlooked someone.
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Re: The 2017 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

10 Oct 2017 10:03

Ohh snap still barely in the top 20. :D

Dani Martinez finally showing some form could be nice in Turkey, but I think I heard somewhere that he crashed in Lombardia, hopefully he will be alright. I need some GC points from him in Turkey if I want to finish top 20 this year.
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