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05 Jan 2017 10:07

My team 2017:

REYES Aldemar 47
CAVAGNA Rémi 100
CONSONNI Simone 89
DIBBEN Jonathan 82
ALBANESE Vincenzo 159
GESBERT Elie 57
GANNA Filippo 40
JAKOBSEN Fabio 27
MINALI Riccardo 26
COSNEFROY Benoit 19
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 101
PLANCKAERT Edward 45
PETERS Nans 20
VENDRAME Andrea 65
DOULL Owen 7

Total: 884

Not sure to do better than 2016...
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05 Jan 2017 11:45

Okay, folks, here is the spreadsheet. We have 46 teams this year :)

Nice to see that some people gambled with a big-points rider. Rudy Barbier and Kristoffer Halvorsen are both on 2 teams, despite eating up over 1/3rd of the budget. Adrien Costa isn't exactly cheap either at 274 points, but he managed to find his way onto 8 teams. snccdcno even paired him up with Iranian Amir Kolahdouz (also 274 points), who is an unique pick for him for the 2nd year in succession.
The dubious honour of craziest pick goes to Squire though, who spent 915(!!) points on Timothy Dupont. A bold move, let's see if it pays off :)

Last year, we had Gaviria as the most popular rider who was on 4/5th of all teams. He ended up being a great pick - wisdom of the crowd :) We don't have a rider as popular this year, although Doull comes close, with 33 picks. As he is very cheap, he could definitely end up a great pick.
I thought it was interesting to see Gaudu so high up, considering his price tag is quite large and as a 20-year old on a WT team... I picked him as well, though ;)

Riders picked 10 or more times (for more data, check the spreadsheet)
DOULL Owain 33
GANNA Filippo 25
GAUDU David 23
MAS NICOLAU Enric 23
ALBANESE Vincenzo 22
PETERS Nans 22
CONSONNI Simone 21
MINALI Riccardo 20
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 17
RAVASI Edward 14
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 14
PLANCKAERT Edward 14
CINK Ondrej 14
CAVAGNA Rémi 11
POWLESS Neilson 11
FRANKINY Kilian 10
MCNULTY Brandon 10
VENDRAME Andrea 10
OWEN Logan 10
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 10

Popularity Team
Looking at this ranking, the most popular team you'd be able to get would be the following. It consists of the 14 most popular riders, choosing Cavagna over Powless for budgetary reasons, with McNulty as a zero-pointer for the 15th spot.
GAUDU David 196
ALBANESE Vincenzo 159
RAVASI Edward 114
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 101
CAVAGNA Rémi 100
MAS NICOLAU Enric 92
CONSONNI Simone 89
PLANCKAERT Edward 45
GANNA Filippo 40
MINALI Riccardo 26
PETERS Nans 20
DOULL Owain 7
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 5
CINK Ondrej 0
MCNULTY Brandon 0

With this team, you'd get a popularity score of 283, which is actually not that far ahead of what this year's most popular entry scored, defending champion Wallenquist with 253. It seems he will again be a force to be reckoned with.

Popularity ranking
1 Wallenquist 253
2 skidmark 246
3 CraZyCaLL 243
4 fauniera 240
5 Kazistuta 240
6 MADRAZO 238
7 Ludwigzgz 232
8 Hakkie2 224
9 allobroges 223
10 LaFlorecita 216
11 18-Valve 205
12 Joelsim 205
13 del1962 204
14 shawnm4747 203
15 GP Blanco 199
16 rote_lanterne 195
17 Armchair Cyclist 193
18 snccdcno 187
19 al_pacino 184
20 Roubaix 182
21 Nicosix 178
22 LosBrolin 177
23 Trudgin 173
24 Kryvo 169
25 torcia_86 169
26 AupaPyama 160
27 togo95 159
28 comodoro 148
29 Arb 146
30 laarsland 146
31 Josedin 145
32 DJW 144
33 postmanhat 144
34 LukasCPH 139
35 Leadbelly 128
36 Pentacycle 128
37 Squire 122
38 scrooll07 120
39 just some guy 115
40 Midge 108
41 search 107
42 Guilherme Ribeiro 104
43 marty 100
44 Tych23 83
45 Slapshot 77
46 Pantani1 74
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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05 Jan 2017 11:54

This is my team, in my haste to throw together a team I only looked at WT teams and not even at all of them :o I just selected the first 15 names I came across, I now regret not looking at the Pro Conti teams because I missed Albanese and Vendrame even though they are in my main game team :o . Still surprisingly high up on the popularity table.

GAUDU David 196
FRANKINY Kilian 129
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 101
CAVAGNA Rémi 100
MAS NICOLAU Enric 92
GIBBONS Ryan 67
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 62
HOFSTEDE Lennard 60
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida 58
SCOTSON Miles 42
GANNA Filippo 40
MINALI Riccardo 26
PETERS Nans 20
DOULL Owain 7
INSAUSTI IRASTORZA Jon Ander 0
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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Re: Youth CQ Ranking Game 2017

05 Jan 2017 12:23

Interesting, I have five unique picks and three more with only 2-3 picks.

You just wait and see what Konrad Gessner will do - the successor of Pascal Ackermann :razz:
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Re: Youth CQ Ranking Game 2017

05 Jan 2017 12:36

Tych23 wrote:Interesting, I have five unique picks and three more with only 2-3 picks.

You just wait and see what Konrad Gessner will do - the successor of Pascal Ackermann :razz:

Rare picks are most fun to follow - scoring points feels much better when you know most others will miss out on those points :)
Alberto we love you
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we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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06 Jan 2017 08:48

Great to see someone including Krists Neilants who was one of my original must-haves.

My big gambles are on Rudy Barbier and Amund Grøndahl Jansen where the latter has stated that he'll be Lotto-NL's designated sprinter for some smaller races. Good thing the bar for doing better than last season is set very low.

I discovered a big brainfart where I've included Cherkasov when the rider I was thinking of was Sivakov - but at that point I'd already submitted a team twice. So big wishes for a major budget increase for the Tyumen Region!1!
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Re: Youth CQ Ranking Game 2017

07 Jan 2017 19:57

Yes, I chose NEILANDS Krists. In my first year I am the most unpopular. I bet not to choose protour riders, except CINK Ondrej.
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07 Jan 2017 20:09

Just because I could :D

DUPONT Timothy 915
MINALI Riccardo 26
ARIESEN Tim 16
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel 12
DOULL Owain 7
WELTEN Bram 7
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien 6
FRAME Alex 6
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 5
MCNULTY Brandon 0
PHILIPSEN Jasper 0
CINK Ondrej 0
HIRSCHI Marc 0
EEKHOFF Nils 0
CARRETERO MILLAN Hector 0


My two goals are:
1. Break even
2. Not end in last place
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07 Jan 2017 20:17

Chapeau Pantani1, with such hipster picks you should feel right at home at http://www.firstcycling.com too.
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13 Jan 2017 10:50

My team for this year :

ALBANESE Vincenzo
MINALI Riccardo
MCNULTY Brandon
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
COSNEFROY Benoit
REYES ORTEGA Aldemar
NOVAK Domen
GAUDU David
CARRETERO MILLAN Hector
HAMILTON Chris
O'CONNOR Ben
OURSELIN Paul
PLANCKAERT Edward
PETERS Nans
RAVASI Edward
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15 Jan 2017 12:13

My team for:
Santos Tour Down Under 2.UWT
DOULL Owain
MAS NICOLAU Enric
O'CONNOR Ben

As many riders as in the main team. A little chance for Mas an O'Connor to get more than 5 points.
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21 Jan 2017 06:37

Flo looking set to be first after TDU? Must be a fix !?
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Re: Youth CQ Ranking Game 2017

24 Jan 2017 19:33

Update 1: Miles Ahead of the Competition (shamelessly stole that pun from skidmark :D )

First update of the season and I'm pleased to report the spreadsheet appears to be working as it should :) We've had one WorldTour event already but interestingly most points were scored at the Australian Nationals, by Miles Scotson. The 8 who have selected him must be very content as he has already almost tripled his cost.
At the Tour Down Under, we also saw several good performances by our youngsters, most notably Ruben Guerreiro who finished 7th on stage 2 and 18th overall, scoring 28 points. Top scorer after these two weeks is yours truly, as predicted by mc_mountain above (no it's not a fix :p ). It was a bit of a surprise as I only had Scotson, Guerreiro, Enric Mas (10 points) and Lennard Hofstede (5 points), but looking into it I realized Scotson, Guerreiro and Hofstede are quite rare picks which explains it :) 2nd placed GP Blanco only missed Hofstede from my list of riders, and third placed just some guy combined points from Scotson, Ondrej Cink (18 points) and unique pick Lucas Hamilton (12 points). Looking further down, the best team without Scotson is Ludwigzgz, who scored with Guerreiro, Cink and Mas.

As this is just the first update, we don't have a highest movers ranking and the overall ranking is the same as the highest scorers.

1 LaFlorecita 165
2 GP Blanco 160
3 just some guy 152
4 MADRAZO 150
5 laarsland 140
6 del1962 139
7 Pentacycle 122
7 torcia_86 122
9 Ludwigzgz 56
10 CraZyCaLL 38
10 DJW 38

Spreadsheet at Mediafire
Two people have offered to help out with updates but it would be greatly appreciated if more were to step forward, we're looking at 20-something updates in total so even if you could do just one or two it would help immensely :)
Also, I've decided to leave out the monthly rankings this year, because we only have an update once every two weeks I feel they don't add much.
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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25 Jan 2017 18:47

Maybe we just have to keep this standing for the rest of the year.
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08 Feb 2017 21:48

I have an update ready to post but internet here is acting up (I am posting from my phone) I hope I'll be able to post it tomorrow morning!
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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Re: Youth CQ Ranking Game 2017

09 Feb 2017 11:51

Update 2: Minali shines bright in Dubai

We're two weeks further into the season and most of us have started accumulating points, all but two are out of the starting blocks and on their way to a possible win in this year's edition of the game. This week's most notable performance is that of Riccardo Minali in Dubai, in the stellar sprinting field at the Dubai Tour he managed to sprint to top-15's on all stages; place 13,8 and 5, respectively, in the first three stages, but even more impressively he got himself into the top-3 on stage 5, behind Kittel and Viviani and in front of big names like Cavendish, Degenkolb and Groenewegen. This result, with the additional bonus seconds gained, earned him 7th overall, much to the delight of 20 of our participants :) Thanks to him, we scored well across the board, but to really stand out you needed something special on top of those points. This update's highest scorer, DJW, definitely had that with decently sized batches of points from Tao Geoghegan Hart and Jonathan Dibben, as well as some minor points from several other riders. Second highest scorer just some guy didn't have as many point-scoring machines but he has a secret weapon, his unique pick Lucas Hamilton who scored 62 points in Australia since the last update and is now into profit. It seems unlikely that just some guy, a very passionate but not always very successful participant in cycling games ;) , will ever forget about Hamilton because he earned him his (I believe) very first 1st place in the overall rankings of the Youth CQ ranking game, ever! Racing for a Chinese team, Hamilton could definitely score big in some of the Asian races later on in the season, which could make him a very important pick in the long run as well.
MADRAZO already had a good start but, with the 3rd highest score this update, moved up to 2nd overall, thanks to Minali and Dibben and some minor scorers.
Interestingly most of the high scorers had Minali, except for Josedin who got most of his points from Mads Würtz Schmidt's impressive third place in Etoile de Bessèges, a promising start for a rather expensive rider. This performance allows Josedin to move up 30 spots in the rankings, which makes him the highest mover.
Overall, just some guy (as mentioned) climbs two spots into 1st, with MADRAZO moving up to 2nd as I drop down to 3rd. Looking a bit further down, most notable is al_pacino's leap from 32nd to 9th, but in this stage of the game we always see quite a lot of movement as the scores are still low.

Highest scorers
1 DJW 157
2 just some guy 142
3 MADRAZO 127
4 al_pacino 126
4 Josedin 126
6 Joelsim 113
7 allobroges 111
8 torcia_86 106
9 Squire 100
10 snccdcno 99

Highest movers
1 Josedin +30
2 Joelsim +25
3 allobroges +24
4 al_pacino +23
5 LosBrolin +16
6 shawnm4747 +11
7 fauniera +6
8 Nicosix +5
9 DJW +4
9 Hakkie2 +4

Overall
1 +2 just some guy 294
2 +2 MADRAZO 277
3 -2 LaFlorecita 258
4 +3 torcia_86 228
5 -3 GP Blanco 214
6 +4 DJW 195
7 -2 laarsland 191
8 -2 del1962 159
9 +23 al_pacino 136
10 +2 snccdcno 134

Spreadsheet at MediaFire
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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Re: Youth CQ Ranking Game 2017

22 Feb 2017 13:33

Update 3: Örken scores for snccdcno as Cink shines

The last two weeks have been quite uneventful for our game, which is slightly surprising considering the big number of points available with all the x.HC races. The most interesting performance this week was definitely that of Ondrej Cink, who showed big promise in Ruta del Sol and finished top-10 on GC in a stellar field. The 13 participants who picked him will have followed his efforts with great interest but I am sure even those who didn't pick him - me included - were very impressed by his showing.
Points were scarce - only those with Cink managed to score 50 points or more. Interestingly, many of the highest scorers were quite a way down in the rankings, which means their names also feature prominently in the highest movers list. The highest scorer, snccdcno, had already had a good start to the game though and solidifies his position in the top-10 overall, moving up to 7th. He got a nice number of points from unique pick Ahmet Örken, who fired it up in Morocco. On top of that he also scored a combined 10 points with Enric Mas and Andrea Vendrame. 2nd-placed and highest mover Pantani1, who managed to select a staggering 8 unique picks, saw that strategy pay off with 8 points for Michael Schlegel, 5 points for Kevin Deltombe and most importantly 22 points for Dan Pearson. 3rd-placed Kryvo collected points with Cink, Ryan Gibbons, Mas and an Eritrean with the most unpronounceable name ever which I'm just going to shamelessly copy: Amanuel Egerzeigzaarkha GEBREIGZABHIER .

Overall, the top-3 remains the same, but we see quite a lot of movement in the lower regions of the top-10. Laarsland has closed in on the podium and Squire moves into the top-10. Torcia_86, DJW and del1962 all drop a bit but only al_pacino was unfortunate enough to drop out of the top-10. Meanwhile, just a hair away from 10th, is AupaPyama, who moved up 10 spots to 11th overall.


Highest scorers
1 snccdcno 89
2 Pantani1 85
3 Kryvo 72
4 marty 67
5 Arb 63
6 just some guy 60
6 MADRAZO 60
6 Trudgin 60
10 laarsland 55
10 Ludwigzgz 55
10 Armchair Cyclist 55
10 skidmark 55

Highest movers
1 Pantani1 17
2 Armchair Cyclist 14
2 Kryvo 14
4 Ludwigzgz 13
5 AupaPyama 10
5 marty 10
7 skidmark 8
8 Trudgin 7
9 Arb 5
9 search 5

Overall
1 0 just some guy 354
2 0 MADRAZO 337
3 0 LaFlorecita 280
4 3 laarsland 246
5 0 GP Blanco 234
6 -2 torcia_86 233
7 3 snccdcno 223
8 -2 DJW 200
9 -1 del1962 169
10 4 Squire 163

Spreadsheet at MediaFire
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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22 Feb 2017 16:25

Can't believe I'm in the top 10! :eek:
Especially when my most expensive pick for some reason scored -7 points this week.
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22 Feb 2017 16:45

Squire wrote:Can't believe I'm in the top 10! :eek:
Especially when my most expensive pick for some reason scored -7 points this week.


Hubert Dupont finished 18th in Etoile de Bessèges which scored him 7 points whereas Timothy Dupont DNF the same race I guess the 18th place was initially credited to the latter and has now been corrected.
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23 Feb 2017 07:04

Yeah, I believe that is the issue, well spotted (both of you)
Never a pleasant surprise to see one of your picks *lose* points!
Alberto we love you
on the road
you don't need to say this stuff
we saw you on the road
you blessed us with 9 great shows
let's not argue the toss about the official count
you are much bigger than that
~TourOfSardinia
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