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01 Feb 2017 10:59

1 unpopular pick for me with Gesbert, that was a great junior and seems in good progress, and perhaps with a chance to score a lot in the many french races suiting him well in the next years. It was the last pick and a bit with the heart and despite him also being out for 8 weeks starting the season. Had I taken Frankiny who was a obvious candidate I would have been topping the popularity ranking, but that would also have been a bit boring. Also I just held the age against Frankiny thinking that his talent will not really compare to the great u23 results this year with him being 22 already last year., so I hope his improvement wont be that explosive anymore. On the other hand I also tried to avoid most riders not having a procontract yet, despite huge talents. For instance a rider like Storer that looks like a massive talent, but that I just think will be too handicapped in the 3 year game. Same goes for other very huge talents like Lambrecht, Vanhoucke, Hindley, Padun, Riabushenko or some of the other young columbians that were all very tempting but where I doubt they will score enough within 3 years especially starting with the team-handicap and most of them also being very young. Other significant picks I skipped was the very hyped Carapaz that I simply has struggled to find the impressive enough results from (him dominating spanish amateurraces at his age, dont say that much anymore, sadly) , just as well as his teamrole on a superstrong Movistar Team will likely be a handicap, but perhaps would have been picked had I seen him ride, and I might regret this, and then ofcourse Daniel Martinez, where I just think his progress last year was too dissapointing. So in the end I decided a bit of a gamble pick instead of one of those 3. The other last spots on my team came to Dibben, that has obvious talent but where the Sky-team is a handicap, but now he got the chance anyway (propably because of his recent Malorca result), and to Planckaert, where one can always hope he will improve enough to get a Van Asbroeck/Theuns kind of season in a couple of years, but where I suppose its more likely he will not. But at least he will for sure have the chance.

Seing the teams now, Im surpriced I missed that Paolo Simion was eligable likely just expecting him to be over 200 when going trough the cq-ranking, without checking. Im glad only 2 teams has him included as he should be quite a good pick.
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01 Feb 2017 19:58

Gesbert was in the main game CQ team that I first submitted, but he had to be sacrificed to make room for Vorganov. Considered him for this game as well, but you never really know with French attackers. Could be a Chavanel, or could be a Kadri. Gesbert will definitely be my biggest regret if he does well. Being the best French junior of his class is fairly promising, afterall.

There are a lot of riders who are unique picks for other teams who I strongly considered, and a lot of popular ones who didn't convince me. It's my first time playing this game, so I don't really know what to expect.
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01 Feb 2017 20:15

Pretty surprised to see me that high on the popularity ranking considering everything. I think picking Reyes and especially Higuita will prove to be a mistake, despite their talents, due to how the CQ rankings work. But its more fun to pick with your heart than your brain, especially in a 3 year long game.
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07 Feb 2017 19:35

So here we go:
Year 1, month 1 (to 5th Feb)

Best scorers
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan 148pts 20 teams (10th in TDU, 4th in Evvans' Ocean Race)
SCOTSON Miles 127 13 (Aussie RR win, 5th in the TT and finishers' points)
HINDLEY Jai 119 1 (2nd in Herald Sun, and a few other points, for Jakob747)
STORER Michael 106 8 (5th in Herald Sun, 15th in TDU)
MINALI Riccardo 75 14 (7th in GC and stage points in Dubai)
HAMILTON Lucas 74 2 (7th in Herald Sun, 14th in Evans' Ocean Race for 18Valve and Jakob747)
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 30 30 (9th in San Juan GC)
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida 28 16 (top 20 GC in TDU)
DIBBEN Jonathan 28 12 (6th in one of the Majorcan races)


Team scores

Some popular picks there, many of them picked after they had started picking up points (but that is allowed), so a decent start for many teams, and everybody at least off the mark:
1 DJW 485 (Restrepo, Scotson, Storer, Bernal, Guerreiro, Dibben)
2 TheAsian 472 (Restrepo, Scotson, Minali, Bernal, Guerreiro, Dibben)
3 Hakkie2 469 (Restrepo, Scotson, Minali, Bernal, Guerreiro, Dibben)
4 18Valve 466 (Restrepo, Storer, Minali, Hamilton, Bernal)
5 Madrazo 444 (Restrepo, Scotson, Minali, Bernal, Dibben)
6 Murrjt 429
7 Flo 416
8 Blues_in_the_Bottle 409
9 Kazistuta 395
10 Ludwigzgz 354
11 ValvPiti 348
12 Cordi333 345
13 RoteLaterne 344
14 Squire 324
15 Torcio86 293
16 Josedin 285
17 Skidmark 279
18 HugoKoblet 271
19 Kryvo 267
20 Del1962 264
21 GPBlanco 250
22 Jakob747 238
23 LukasCPH 215
24 AmisVelo 214
25 Scrooll07 201
26 Armchair_Cyclist 200
27 Joelsim 198
28 Vladimir 144
29 Leadbelly 127
30 ThePirate81 89
31 Laarsland 85
32 Comodoro 81
33 Togo95 50
33 Trudgin 50
35 Tych23 36
CollectiveWisdom 444

Some of us already have riders who could already usefully replace members of our 2015-17 team, but although the points in the bank may be welcome, do they really have something to offer over the three years of the game? Time will tell.

I hope to keep up with monthly updates, but offers of help, especially during the GT and Classics games, would be welcome.
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07 Mar 2017 22:14

Year 1, Month 2 up to 5th March

The top scoring rider (and the top scoring team, on account of the said rider) are ahead of those in the equivalent games for longer established riders this month. That's what comes of Langkawi having HC status.
(Name/pts/teams)
GIBBONS Ryan 288 1 (GC win, stage win and 3 podiums in Langkawi for DJW)
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 116 30 (7th in Langkawi, 5th in Larciano)
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 89 12 (2nd in Lariano)
OWEN Logan 65 1 (stage win & 6th in GC in Volta ao Alentejo for Joelsim)
CINK Ondrej 64 16 (9th in Ruta del Sol, top 20 in Strade Bianche)
DUNBAR Eddie 59 3 (5th in Volta ao Alentejo GC)
O'CONNOR Ben 56 3 (8th in Langkawi for Comodoro, Laarsland and Scrool007)
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan 53 20 (2nd in Vuelta a Murcia)


2nd win out of 2 for DJW, with no close competition this time
1 DJW 511 (Gibbons, Bernal and Restrepo)
2 Blues_in_the_Bottle 396 (Bernal, Carapaz, Cink and Restrepo)
3 ValvPiti 374 (Bernal, Carapaz, Cink and Restrepo)
4 Cordi333 370 (Bernal, Carapaz, Cink and Restrepo)
5 AmisVelo 366
6 Hakkie2 360
7 Joelsim 354
8 Vladimir 331
9 Squire 309
10 Kazistuta 302
11 Del1962 300
12 Murrjt 299
13 Madrazo 293
14 TheAsian 290
15 Ludwigzgz 288
15 Skidmark 288
17 Comodoro 286
18 Jakob747 285
19 18Valve 278
20 GPBlanco 270
20 ThePirate81 270
22 Laarsland 242
23 LukasCPH 241
24 Torcio86 237
25 HugoKoblet 229
26 Togo95 225
27 Kryvo 224
28 Flo 179
28 Scrooll07 179
30 Armchair_Cyclist 173
31 Tych23 130
32 Josedin 100
33 Trudgin 93
34 RoteLaterne 78
35 Leadbelly 41
CollectiveWisdom 293

Standings
It ought to be far too early for positions to mean anything, but that lead already looks like it will take a while to overturn...
1 DJW 996
2 Hakkie2 829
3 Blues_in_the_Bottle 805
4 TheAsian 762
5 18Valve 744
6 Madrazo 737
7 Murrjt 728
8 ValvPiti 722
9 Cordi333 715
10 Kazistuta 697
11 Ludwigzgz 642
12 Squire 633
13 Flo 595
14 AmisVelo 580
15 Skidmark 567
16 Del1962 564
17 Joelsim 552
18 Torcio86 530
19 Jakob747 523
20 GPBlanco 520
21 HugoKoblet 500
22 Kryvo 491
23 Vladimir 475
24 LukasCPH 456
25 RoteLaterne 422
26 Josedin 385
27 Scrooll07 380
28 Armchair_Cyclist 373
29 Comodoro 367
30 ThePirate81 359
31 Laarsland 327
32 Togo95 275
33 Leadbelly 168
34 Tych23 166
35 Trudgin 143
CollectiveWisdom 737
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06 Apr 2017 19:52

Year 1, Month 3 6th March to 2nd April

This cohort are not troubling anyone in the Spring Classics yet, but they are picking up points here and there...

BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 90pts for 30 teams (4th in Settimana Coppi e Bartali, 16th in Tirreno-Adriatico)
BANASZEK Alan 67pts 2 teams (Win Rhodes GP, 9th in Nokere, 11th in Handzame and stage 2nd in Settimana Coppi e Bartali for Rote Laterne and Togo95)
PLANCKAERT Edward 46 12 (4th in Loire Atlantique + WT finisher points)
HOFSTETTER Hugo 45 1 (3rd in Loire Atlantique for Scrool07)
GAUDU David 45 34 (4th in Route Adélie de Vitré and some Catalunya points)
HAMILTON Lucas 40 2 (Oceania Championships win for 18Valve and Jakob747)
YSSAAD Yannis 39 4 (Paris-Troyes win, 7th in Adélie de Vitré)
EDMONDSON Alexander 38 1 (18th in Dreigaagse, 25th in Ronde and some Catalunya points)
SISR Frantisek 34 2 (10th in Drenth, 11th in Nokere)
TORRES BARCELO Albert 32 1 (5th in La Rioja)
ZURLO Federico 30 4 (finishing points in 6 WT races, but never higher than 49th)

1 Togo95 342 (Bernal, Banaszek, Planckaert and Gaudu)
2 Squire 319 (Bernal, Planckaert, Yssaad and Gaudu)
3 DJW 311 (Bernal, Yssaad, Zurlo and Gaudu)
4 Flo 303 (Bernal, Planckaert and Gaudu)
5 TheAsian 285
5 Ludwigzgz 285
7 Skidmark 284
8 Jakob747 275
9 Madrazo 272
9 LukasCPH 272
11 Blues_in_the_Bottle 267
11 18Valve 267
13 Murrjt 266
14 Cordi333 262
15 Kryvo 259
16 Scrooll07 255
17 Hakkie2 252
18 Del1962 241
19 ValvPiti 240
20 RoteLaterne 239
21 Torcio86 236
22 ThePirate81 234
23 HugoKoblet 229
24 GPBlanco 227
25 Comodoro 223
26 Laarsland 221
27 Kazistuta 217
28 AmisVelo 208
29 Tych23 195
30 Joelsim 185
31 Vladimir 181
32 Armchair_Cyclist 179
33 Josedin 173
34 Leadbelly 159
35 Trudgin 117
CollectiveWisdom 239


Standings

Although this is only month three, there was very little change in the table, and none at all in the top 7: 8th and 9th swap places, and Squire rises from 12th to be the only new entrant into the top ten. Togo95 links top score this month with biggest riser, but 5 places is scarcely game shattering.
A third place to follow up on 2 wins: DJW's lead already looking serious.

1 DJW 1307
2 Hakkie2 1081
3 Blues_in_the_Bottle 1072
4 TheAsian 1047
5 18Valve 1011
6 Madrazo 1009
7 Murrjt 994
8 Cordi333 977
9 ValvPiti 962
10 Squire 952
11 Ludwigzgz 927
12 Kazistuta 914
13 Flo 898
14 Skidmark 851
15 Del1962 805
16 Jakob747 798
17 AmisVelo 788
18 Torcio86 766
19 Kryvo 750
20 GPBlanco 747
21 Joelsim 737
22 HugoKoblet 729
23 LukasCPH 728
24 RoteLaterne 661
25 Vladimir 656
26 Scrooll07 635
27 Togo95 617
28 ThePirate81 593
29 Comodoro 590
30 Josedin 558
31 Armchair_Cyclist 552
32 Laarsland 548
33 Tych23 361
34 Leadbelly 327
35 Trudgin 260
CollectiveWisdom 976
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07 Apr 2017 07:34

Thanks for the update!
Nice to see I'm doing okay so far in this game. The list of scorers on my team for this update doesn't seem to be correct though. Hope it's only the names that are wrong, and not the points. :D
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07 Apr 2017 08:02

Looks like those not having Bernal can wave goodbye to this competition. :D
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Re:

07 Apr 2017 08:54

Squire wrote:Thanks for the update!
Nice to see I'm doing okay so far in this game. The list of scorers on my team for this update doesn't seem to be correct though. Hope it's only the names that are wrong, and not the points. :D


I've double checked: I do have your team correct per the series of PMs on 31 Jan/1 Feb, but I was cutting and pasting Togo's top scorers (yours only had one name difference, and I am a hopeless typist) I substituted Planckaert instead of Banaszek with your pick of Yssaad.

Your scores for the month, and in total, are correct, it was just the summary I got wrong (now corrected).
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Re: Re:

07 Apr 2017 11:33

Armchair cyclist wrote:
Squire wrote:Thanks for the update!
Nice to see I'm doing okay so far in this game. The list of scorers on my team for this update doesn't seem to be correct though. Hope it's only the names that are wrong, and not the points. :D


I've double checked: I do have your team correct per the series of PMs on 31 Jan/1 Feb, but I was cutting and pasting Togo's top scorers (yours only had one name difference, and I am a hopeless typist) I substituted Planckaert instead of Banaszek with your pick of Yssaad.

Your scores for the month, and in total, are correct, it was just the summary I got wrong (now corrected).

That's good to know. :)

Will you ever upload any spreadsheets? Could be fun to get more of an overview of what's going on from time to time. If that's not more work for you, obviously.
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09 May 2017 00:13

Year 1, Month 4 3rd to 30th April (yes, that is a week ago, but it was the most recent update when I went to CQ this evening. I guess it fits the intention of monthly updates...

Two of the more popular picks came up trumps
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 98pts (2nd in Appenino, 9th in Tour of the Alps) for 30 teams
GAUDU David 81 (7th in Finistere, 9th in Fleche) for 34 teams
LECROQ Jérémy 80 (6th in Denain, 3rd in both Ronde U23 and ZLM) for Kazistuta
MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian 72 (3rd in Denain) for Jacob747
EDMONDSON Alexander 66 66 (3rd in 2 stages, 4th in another, and 3rd in points competition in Romandie) for Scrool007
HAMILTON Lucas 55 2
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian 53 1

Points gained
1 Jakob747 529 (Bernal, Gaudu, Molano and Hamilton)
2 Vladimir 434 (Bernal, Gaudu and Rodriguez)
3 18Valve 410 (Bernal, Gaudu and Hamilton)
4 Del1962 394
5 Torcio86 387
6 Flo 378
7 Blues_in_the_Bottle 377
8 Togo95 376
9 Murrjt 371
10 Cordi333 361
11 HugoKoblet 349
12 LukasCPH 348
13 Madrazo 345
14 Laarsland 343
15 Kazistuta 342
16 AmisVelo 331
17 GPBlanco 330
18 Kryvo 329
19 TheAsian 327
20 Armchair_Cyclist 324
21 Ludwigzgz 316
22 Hakkie2 313
23 Skidmark 311
24 ValvPiti 308
25 Squire 306
26 Scrooll07 299
27 Comodoro 298
28 ThePirate81 278
29 DJW 277
30 Joelsim 270
31 Josedin 243
32 Tych23 200
33 Trudgin 191
34 RoteLaterne 177
35 Leadbelly 122
CollectiveWisdom 356

Standings

DJW still leads the way, but he had a fallible month to give the rest of the contestants some hope. Blues in the Bottle and 18Valve are new on the podium, and the volatility pf the early stages of the game is shown by Jakob747's 7 place rise into the top ten.
1 DJW 1584
2 Blues_in_the_Bottle 1449
3 18Valve 1421
4 Hakkie2 1394
5 TheAsian 1374
6 Murrjt 1365
7 Madrazo 1354
8 Cordi333 1338
9 Jakob747 1327
10 Flo 1276
11 ValvPiti 1270
12 Squire 1258
13 Kazistuta 1256
14 Ludwigzgz 1243
15 Del1962 1199
16 Skidmark 1162
17 Torcio86 1153
18 AmisVelo 1119
19 Vladimir 1090
20 Kryvo 1079
21 HugoKoblet 1078
22 GPBlanco 1077
23 LukasCPH 1076
24 Joelsim 1007
25 Togo95 993
26 Scrooll07 934
27 Laarsland 891
28 Comodoro 888
29 Armchair_Cyclist 876
30 ThePirate81 871
31 RoteLaterne 838
32 Josedin 801
33 Tych23 561
34 Trudgin 451
35 Leadbelly 449
CollectiveWisdom 1332
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30 May 2017 14:50

Year 1, Month 5 1-28 May
This period was dominated for cycling fans by the Giro, but not in this game. We had a Giro stage winner in year one of the Emerging riders cycle last year, no more than a few top tens, culminating in a 5th place, this time.

Top Scorers
LAUK Karl Patrick 141pts (stage and GC wins in Tour of Estonia) for Vladimir
CAVAGNA Rémi 136 (2nd in GC in Belgium Tour) for 16 teams
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 109 (6th in Vuelta Communidad de Madrid, 4th in Castilla y Leon) for 12 teams
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida 78pts 16 teams
HAGEN Carl Fredrik 75 1
VENDRAME Andrea 65 8
SCHULTZ Nicholas 64 1
AGUIRRE CALPA Hernan Ricardo 60 1
KÄMNA Lennard 50 23

Points gained
1 Vladimir 632 (Lauk, Cavagna, Carapaz, Kamna)
2 AmisVelo 599 (Cavagna, Carapaz, Vendrame, Kamna)
3 ValvPiti 592 (Cavagna, Carapaz, Guerreiro, Kamna)
4 GPBlanco 491
5 Jakob747 474
6 Flo 465
7 Blues_in_the_Bottle 438
8 Del1962 436
9 Squire 420
10 Laarsland 411
11 Murrjt 408
12 Josedin 401
13 DJW 399
14 TheAsian 396
15 Hakkie2 394
16 Madrazo 390
17 Cordi333 386
18 Ludwigzgz 385
19 ThePirate81 372
20 HugoKoblet 368
21 Torcio86 354
22 Scrooll07 353
23 Kazistuta 321
24 Kryvo 314
25 Skidmark 309
26 RoteLaterne 303
27 Armchair_Cyclist 299
28 LukasCPH 276
29 Joelsim 266
29 Trudgin 266
31 18Valve 253
32 Togo95 214
33 Tych23 153
34 Leadbelly 144
35 Comodoro 130
CollectiveWisdom 410

Standings

8 place rises for Valv Piti and Vladimir are the biggest,with ValvPiti now 3rd, and Jakob also has a significant rise, from 9th to 4th.
1 DJW 1983
2 Blues_in_the_Bottle 1887
3 ValvPiti 1862
4 Jakob747 1801
5 Hakkie2 1788
6 Murrjt 1773
7 TheAsian 1770
8 Madrazo 1744
9 Flo 1741
10 Cordi333 1724
11 Vladimir 1722
12 AmisVelo 1718
13 Squire 1678
14 18Valve 1674
15 Del1962 1635
16 Ludwigzgz 1628
17 Kazistuta 1577
18 GPBlanco 1568
19 Torcio86 1507
20 Skidmark 1471
21 HugoKoblet 1446
22 Kryvo 1393
23 LukasCPH 1352
24 Laarsland 1302
25 Scrooll07 1287
26 Joelsim 1273
27 ThePirate81 1243
28 Togo95 1207
29 Josedin 1202
30 Armchair_Cyclist 1175
31 RoteLaterne 1141
32 Comodoro 1018
33 Trudgin 717
34 Tych23 714
35 Leadbelly 593
CollectiveWisdom 1742
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30 May 2017 23:52

Collective Ignorance

FILOSI Iuri 246
VAN GESTEL Dries 143
TOUZE Damien 133
HOLLER Nikodemus 116
TOTO Paolo 98
VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem 97
ORRICO Davide 96
STRAKHOV Dmitry 94
SUMMERHILL Daniel 92
MA Guangtong 90
KANEPEJS Deins 90
ARISTI GARDOKI Mikel 84
DE LAAT Jasper 83
SAHBAOUI Soufiane 83
GALDOUNE Amine Ahmed 83
PERNSTEINER Hermann 83
MASNADA Fausto 82
PAREDES ZAPATA Wilmar Andres 82
Total 1875

Best possible team:
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 334 pts 30 teams
GIBBONS Ryan 330 1
FILOSI Iuri 246 0
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan 214 20
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 203 12
HINDLEY Jai 199 1
GAUDU David 179 34
HAMILTON Lucas 179 2
STORER Michael 161 8
CAVAGNA Rémi 151 16
SCOTSON Miles 147 13
VAN GESTEL Dries 143 0
LAUK Karl Patrick 141 1
TOUZE Damien 133 0
MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian 132 1
DUNBAR Eddie 122 3
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida 121 16
HOLLER Nikodemus 116 0
Total 3251

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