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02 Mar 2017 18:41

vladimir wrote:Thanks for all the updates Armchair! I have more or less given up defending my win from last year, but happy to get on the podium in Le Samyn at least. I see that Strade Bianche now is category 1.WT3 also on Cqranking site, so maybe nice to update the first post?


Thus amended: I included it as upgraded in the text, but missed the edit in the list. Thanks for drawing my attention to it.
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04 Mar 2017 21:13

Race 6: Strade Bianche

A great race, and a popular annual event, and a decent performance by our selectors.
We had a moderately popular winner, two UPs in second and fourth, and one of the top picks in 8th, and rare picks 10th and 13th. Four more of the top 25 are part of our game, along with eleven other finishers, one of who was popular enough to make the Collective Wisdom team.

KWIATKOWSKI Michal 180pts 7 teams
VAN AVERMAET Greg 108 1 (All In)
STYBAR Zdenek 78 1 (Kjellus)
BENOOT Tiesj 46 26
THWAITES Scott 36 2 (Carlo Algatrensig and Vladimir)
FELLINE Fabio 24 3 (Comodoro, Los Brilin and Mellow Velo)
CINK Ondrej 14 11
KORSAETH Truls Engen 11 2
GATTO Oscar 9 2
DE TIER Floris 7 1
STUYVEN Jasper 5 15
TEUNISSEN Mike 5 4
BURGHARDT Marcus 5 1
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 5 3
OSS Daniel 5 5
HAAS Nathan 5 4
PETERS Nans 5 2
BATTAGLIN Enrico 5 1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 5 1
MOSER Moreno 5 1
POLITT Nils 5 1

Scores today:
1= Del1962 245 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot, Cink and a fiver)
1= Togo95 245 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot, Cink and a fiver)
3= EvansIsTheBest 240 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot, Cink)
3= JustSomeGuy 240 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot, Cink)
5 Kazistuta 231 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot and a fiver)
6 LosBrolin 218 (Kwiatkowski, Felline, Cink)
7 MellowVelo 209 (Kwiatkowski, Felline and a fiver)
8 Kjellus 124 (Stybar and Benoot)
9 All_In 108 (Van Avermaet)
10= Leadbelly 65
10= LightBing 65
10= TomJelte 65
13 ChrisDK 60
14 GeraintTooFast 57
15= Archieboy 56
15= Armchair 56
15= Russell23 56
18= GPBlanco 51
18= Hakkie 51
18= Joelsim 51
18= NotMyCircus 51
18= Scrool07 51
18= Shalgo 51
18= ThePirate81 51
25= AG 46
25= Crevaison 46
25= Search 46
25= Squire 46
25= The_Asian 46
25= Vladimir 46
31 Carlo_Algatrensig 41
32 Comodoro 29
33= AmisVelo 19
33= AupaPyama 19
35 Laarsland 16
36 DJSprtsch 15
37= Josedin 14
37= Trudgin 14
39 Spokenspin 12
40 Madrazo 10
41= DJW 5
41= RoteLaterne 5
41= SemirS 5
CollectiveWisdom 51

Standings
The table is still very volatile: the average rise of the Kwiatowski teams was more than 18 places. The Pirate relinquishes the lead but hangs on to a podium spot. Other than 4 Kwiatkowski teams(Mellow Velo, Los Brolin, Just Some Guy and Togo), the other re-entry into the top ten is Van Avermaet-dependent All In.
1 MellowVelo 534
2 LosBrolin 530
3 ThePirate81 523
4 Hakkie 497
5 JustSomeGuy 494
6 Shalgo 489
7 Togo95 438
8 All_In 432
9 AG 416
10 Archieboy 414
11 EvansIsTheBest 409
12 Madrazo 405
13 Russell23 403
14 Kazistuta 395
15 SemirS 388
16 Leadbelly 380
17 AupaPyama 359
18 The_Asian 357
19 Armchair 356
20 LightBing 354
21 RoteLaterne 351
22 Kjellus 348
23 Squire 319
24 Vladimir 317
25 DJSprtsch 316
26 Del1962 312
27 Spokenspin 308
28 GeraintTooFast 305
29 ChrisDK 297
30 DJW 296
31 Laarsland 283
32 Comodoro 278
33 GPBlanco 267
33 TomJelte 267
35 AmisVelo 258
36 Joelsim 241
37 Crevaison 215
38 Scrool07 188
39 Carlo_Algatrensig 187
40 Search 173
41 NotMyCircus 164
42 Josedin 133
43 Trudgin 29
CollectiveWisdom 501

2 races tomorrow: not sure that we are expecting large numbers of points for the game either in West Vlaanderen or GP Industria, but who knows.
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05 Mar 2017 20:46

Race 7: GP Industria & Artigianato - Larciano

Some of the big point scorers here are expensive GC guy looking to Tirreno-Adriatico, who don't do enough of these races to be a good pick here. There were, however, some good bargains who performed well, some of whom were selected, and some were missed by us all.


2nd CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 84pts for Joelsim
4th CATTANEO Mattia 62pts for Geraint Too Fast
14th ARREDONDO MORENO Julian David 12pts for Joelsim (again) and yours truly.

96 points moved Joelsim 12 places to 24, 62 points gave Geraint a temporary 10 place hike to 18th, and I had a 2 position bump up to 17th.

Then I added in:

Race 8: Dwars door West Vlaanderen
Like all the other 1.1 races, this event had not enough WT teams to remain in the game next year (unless we change the criteria: I am open to suggestions).

But it was an interest chase from what I saw, but not one in which our popular pick managed to close down the leaders. If the race does get dropped next year, it might not make a vast difference.

2nd DILLIER Silvan 48pts for Joelsim and Laarsland
3rd HANSEN Lasse Norman 40pts for Kjellus and Vladimir
5th VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume 32pts for 25 teams, including all of those who had another scorer in this race
10th KEISSE Iljo 12pts for Spokenspin
13th JANSEN Amund Grøndahl 8pts for Squire

Standings
Winning both events today brought Joelsim from 36th to 14th, and Kjellus remained above him by also having a 10 spot rise through his picks in this race. Very little change at the top, as this mornings top nine all had Van Keirsbulck and no-one else today: Archieboy didn't, so falls to 15th, as EvansIsTheBest took his tenth place.

1 MellowVelo 566
2 LosBrolin 562
3 ThePirate81 555
4 Hakkie 529
5 JustSomeGuy 526
6 Shalgo 521
7 Togo95 470
8 All_In 464
9 AG 448
10 EvansIsTheBest 441
11 Russell23 435
12 Kazistuta 427
13 Kjellus 420
14 Joelsim 417
15 Archieboy 414
16 Madrazo 405
17 AupaPyama 391
18 The_Asian 389
18 Vladimir 389
20 SemirS 388
21 RoteLaterne 383
22 Leadbelly 380
23 Armchair 368
24 GeraintTooFast 367
25 Laarsland 363
26 Squire 359
27 LightBing 354
28 Spokenspin 352
29 DJSprtsch 316
30 Del1962 312
31 GPBlanco 299
32 ChrisDK 297
33 DJW 296
34 AmisVelo 290
35 Comodoro 278
36 TomJelte 267
37 Crevaison 247
38 Scrool07 188
39 Carlo_Algatrensig 187
40 Search 173
41 Josedin 165
42 NotMyCircus 164
43 Trudgin 29
CollectiveWisdom 533
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Re: 2017 Spring Classics CQ Game

05 Mar 2017 21:56

The team is going pretty well so far but I feel I'm going to regret picking Betancur (I was convincing Gougeard was already on the team but apparently not, should have gone with him instead). Guess I'll have to believe in Betancur again for a couple months then :lol:
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15 Mar 2017 19:51

Race 9: Nokere Koerse

From now on we have at least one race per week, after a bit of a break for the one week races, but this is a very quiet resumption of the contest.

Our only scorers are:
BOIVIN Guillaume: 12th, 18 pts for AupaPyama
SALOMEIN Jarl: 13th, 15pts for GeraintTooFast and LightBing
NAPOLITANO Danilo: 25th, 5 pts for Trudgin
GERTS Floris: 27th, 5 pts for Carlo_Algatrensig and Laarsland
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl: 30th, 5pts for Squire

and those are our only scorers today.

In the overall standings, LightBing moves up three, Geraint moves up 2, and Carlo and AupaPyama one spot each, but no points at all among the top 15.

I think we can be sure of more game action on Saturday in MSR.
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18 Mar 2017 21:15

Race 10: Milan - San Remo

KWIATKOWSKI Michal 1st, 280pts for 7 teams
ALAPHILIPPE Julian 3rd, 145pts for Josedin
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 5th, 112pts for 9 teams
DEGENKOLB John 7th, 90 pts for 34 teams
VIVIANI Elia 9th, 70pts for Not My Cicus and Shalgo
CORT NIELSEN Magnus 11th, 54pts for Joelsim
VAN AVERMAET Greg 22pts 1 team
BRESCHEL Matti 18 16
GATTO Oscar 14 2
GILBERT Philippe 7 1
and 32 other finishers for 5 pts each.


1 EvansIsTheBest 510 (Kwiatkowski, Gaviria, Degenkolb, Breschel and 2 fivers)
2 Del1962 487 (Kwiatkowski, Gaviria, Degenkolb and 1 fiver)
3 LosBrolin 407 (Kwiatkowski, Gaviria and 3 fivers)
4 JustSomeGuy 398 (Kwiatkowski, Degenkolb, Breschel and 2 fivers)
5 MellowVelo 395 (Kwiatkowski, Degenkolb and 5 fivers)
6 Kazistuta 393 (Kwiatkowski, Degenkolb and 1 fiver)
7 Togo95 380 (Kwiatkowski, Degenkolb and 2 fivers)
8 Joelsim 271 (Gaviria, Degenkolb, Cort Nielsen and 3 fivers)
9 Josedin 262 (Alaphilippe , Gaviria and 1 fiver)
10 Crevaison 225
11 Spokenspin 222
12 AmisVelo 217
12 TomJelte 217
14 Shalgo 193
15 NotMyCircus 188
16 Russell23 138
17 Laarsland 133
18 Madrazo 128
19 The_Asian 123
19 RoteLaterne 123
19 GeraintTooFast 123
19 Search 123
23 Archieboy 120
23 LightBing 120
23 DJW 120
23 Comodoro 120
27 Squire 118
28 SemirS 115
28 Armchair 115
28 DJSprtsch 115
31 ThePirate81 110
31 Hakkie 110
31 Vladimir 110
34 Kjellus 105
34 Leadbelly 105
34 GPBlanco 105
37 All_In 40
38 Carlo_Algatrensig 35
39 AupaPyama 34
40 AG 30
41 ChrisDK 24
42 Trudgin 20
43 Scrool07 15
CollectiveWisdom 133

Standings

The difference between Gaviria and Degenkolb is enough for Los Brolin to overtake Mellow Velo, in a swap of the top two. The day's winner, Evans Is The Best, moves up from 10th to third, as Pirate91 makes exactly the opposite journey. Del1962 has a 23 place ump to get into the top ten: Kazistuta and Joelsim also get into the top ten, but less dramatically. AG shows the danger of not having a very popular pick on the day he gets 90 points, with a 21 position drop.
1 LosBrolin 969
2 MellowVelo 961
3 EvansIsTheBest 951
4 JustSomeGuy 924
5 Togo95 850
6 Kazistuta 820
7 Del1962 799
8 Shalgo 714
9 Joelsim 688
10 ThePirate81 665
11 Hakkie 639
12 Spokenspin 574
13 Russell23 573
14 Archieboy 534
15 Madrazo 533
16 Kjellus 525
17 The_Asian 512
18 AmisVelo 507
19 RoteLaterne 506
20 GeraintTooFast 505
21 All_In 504
22 SemirS 503
23 Laarsland 501
24 Vladimir 499
25 LightBing 489
26 Leadbelly 485
27 TomJelte 484
28 Armchair 483
29 Squire 482
30 AG 478
31 Crevaison 472
32 AupaPyama 443
33 DJSprtsch 431
34 Josedin 427
35 DJW 416
36 GPBlanco 404
37 Comodoro 398
38 NotMyCircus 352
39 ChrisDK 321
40 Search 296
41 Carlo_Algatrensig 227
42 Scrool07 203
43 Trudgin 54
CollectiveWisdom 666

Back to Belgium on Wednesday for Dwars door Vlaanderen.
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Re: 2017 Spring Classics CQ Game

18 Mar 2017 22:28

Well that went well, even Betancur finished. With the way my team is set up, Kwiat/Degenkolb/Gaviria/Benoot have to score big to give me a chance and right now I can't ask for anything more from them.
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22 Mar 2017 22:09

Race 11: Dwars door Vlaanderen

A race that most of the main favourites for later in the week have sidestepped, and the big selections in the game have done likewise.

LAMPAERT Yves 1st, 180 pts for GeraintTooFast, GPBlanco and Rote Laterne
GILBERT Philippe 2nd, 108 for AG
NAESEN Oliver 6th, 62 for AG, ChrisDK and Just Some Guy
BENOOT Tiesj 7th, 54 for 26 teams
VAN BAARLE Dylan 8th, 46 for Laarsland
SENECHAL Florian 10th, 36 for Vladimir
BRESCHEL Matti 12th, 27 for 16 teams
TEUNISSEN Mike 16th, 18 for 4 teams
LANGEVELD Sebastian 19th, 12pts 1 team
STYBAR Zdenek 21st, 10 1
VLIEGEN Loïc 23rd, 8 3
TERPSTRA Niki 25th, 6 1

and, as it is a WT race, no less than 41 other riders getting 5 pts for finishing.

1 GPBlanco 282 (Lampaert, Benoot, Teunissen and 6 fivers)
2 GeraintTooFast 281 (Lampaert, Benoot, Breschel and 4 fivers)
3 AG 266 (Gilbert, Naesen, Benoot, Breschel and 3 fivers)
4 RoteLaterne 227 (Lampaert, Breschel and 4 fivers)
5 JustSomeGuy 158 (Naesen, Benoot, Breschel and 3 fivers)
6 ChrisDK 141
7 Russell23 119
8 Squire 116
9 Crevaison 111
10 Shalgo 106
10 The_Asian 106
12 EvansIsTheBest 101
12 Kazistuta 101
12 Search 101
15 Laarsland 98
16 NotMyCircus 91
17 Kjellus 87
18 Scrool07 85
19 Hakkie 84
20 Togo95 74
20 ThePirate81 74
20 Armchair 74
23 Joelsim 69
23 LightBing 69
23 Leadbelly 69
23 TomJelte 69
27 Del1962 64
28 Archieboy 59
29 Madrazo 52
30 Vladimir 51
31 DJSprtsch 45
32 All_In 42
33 Carlo_Algatrensig 33
34 AmisVelo 30
34 AupaPyama 30
36 Comodoro 28
37 LosBrolin 25
37 Spokenspin 25
39 Trudgin 23
40 Josedin 20
41 SemirS 15
41 DJW 15
43 MellowVelo 10
CollectiveWisdom 91

That 5th place on the day is enough to bring Just Some Guy to the top of the standings, and Evans is the Best moves up to second. A poor day for the two previous pacesetters, 37th and 43rd (i.e. last) today, but still in the top four. Geraint is the only new entry into the top ten, but just outside it, AG regains almost all of his Degenkolb related places, but is still outstripped for riser of the day by GPBlanco's 20 place advance.

1 JustSomeGuy 1082
2 EvansIsTheBest 1052
3 LosBrolin 994
4 MellowVelo 971
5 Togo95 924
6 Kazistuta 921
7 Del1962 863
8 Shalgo 820
9 GeraintTooFast 786
10 Joelsim 757
11 AG 744
12 ThePirate81 739
13 RoteLaterne 733
14 Hakkie 723
15 Russell23 692
16 GPBlanco 686
17 The_Asian 618
18 Kjellus 612
19 Laarsland 599
19 Spokenspin 599
21 Squire 598
22 Archieboy 593
23 Madrazo 585
24 Crevaison 583
25 LightBing 558
26 Armchair 557
27 Leadbelly 554
28 TomJelte 553
29 Vladimir 550
30 All_In 546
31 AmisVelo 537
32 SemirS 518
33 DJSprtsch 476
34 AupaPyama 473
35 ChrisDK 462
36 Josedin 447
37 NotMyCircus 443
38 DJW 431
39 Comodoro 426
40 Search 397
41 Scrool07 288
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 260
43 Trudgin 77
CollectiveWisdom 757
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24 Mar 2017 21:16

Race 12: E3 Harelbake

The decisive break held interest for some of the more expensive, and therefore not very popular, picks in the game, but that is what those big gamble selections are all about.

VAN AVERMAET Greg 1st, 220pts for All In
GILBERT Philippe 2nd, 132 for AG
NAESEN Oliver 3rd, 112 for AG, ChrisDK and Just Some Guy
BOONEN Tom 8th, 58 for Trudgin and DJSprtsch
VAN BAARLE Dylan 9th, 52 for Laarsland
FELLINE Fabio 11th, 40 for Comodoro, Los Brilin and Mellow Velo
DEGENKOLB John 30pts 34 teams
BENOOT Tiesj 27 26
ROWE Luke 24 16
LANGEVELD Sebastian 21 1
TERPSTRA Niki 17 1
OSS Daniel 16 5
VANMARCKE Sep 13 10
CORT NIELSEN Magnus 12 1
BOZIC Borut 11 4
SINKELDAM Ramon 8 1
THWAITES Scott 6 2
and another 27 finishers for 5 points each.

1 AG 289 (Gilbert, Naesen, Benoot, Vanmarcke and a five pointer)
2 All_In 230 (Van Avermaet and 2 fivers)
3 JustSomeGuy 184 (Naesen, Degenkolb, Benoot and 3 fivers)
4 DJSprtsch 154 (Boonen, Degenkolb, Rowe, Langeveld, Bozic and 2 fivers)
5 ChrisDK 139
6 Russell23 128
7 Leadbelly 114
8 Laarsland 112
9 Hakkie 111
10 Comodoro 109
11 Archieboy 107
12 ThePirate81 101
13 Madrazo 97
14 Shalgo 96
15 GPBlanco 95
15 The_Asian 95
17 LightBing 91
18 MellowVelo 90
18 Squire 90
20 Kjellus 87
20 SemirS 87
22 AmisVelo 85
23 LosBrolin 84
23 Joelsim 84
25 Togo95 82
25 TomJelte 82
27 GeraintTooFast 80
28 Spokenspin 79
29 Search 77
30 Armchair 75
31 DJW 74
31 Scrool07 74
33 Trudgin 73
34 Kazistuta 72
34 Crevaison 72
34 NotMyCircus 72
37 RoteLaterne 69
38 EvansIsTheBest 67
38 Vladimir 67
40 Carlo_Algatrensig 66
41 Del1962 62
42 AupaPyama 49
43 Josedin 15
CollectiveWisdom 106

Standings
No change in the top 4: AG's remarkable week courtesy of Gilbert and Naesens lifts him from 30th of Wednesday morning, via 11th, to 5th place. All In's tactic of spending 75% of his budget on Van Avermaet means that he will inevitably soar up the table on any race in which the Olympic Champion scores high, and gradually slips down in every other event: it brings him a 13 place jump this time.

1 JustSomeGuy 1266
2 EvansIsTheBest 1119
3 LosBrolin 1078
4 MellowVelo 1061
5 AG 1033
6 Togo95 1006
7 Kazistuta 993
8 Del1962 925
9 Shalgo 916
10 GeraintTooFast 866
11 Joelsim 841
12 ThePirate81 840
13 Hakkie 834
14 Russell23 820
15 RoteLaterne 802
16 GPBlanco 781
17 All_In 776
18 The_Asian 713
19 Laarsland 711
20 Archieboy 700
21 Kjellus 699
22 Squire 688
23 Madrazo 682
24 Spokenspin 678
25 Leadbelly 668
26 Crevaison 655
27 LightBing 649
28 TomJelte 635
29 Armchair 632
30 DJSprtsch 630
31 AmisVelo 622
32 Vladimir 617
33 SemirS 605
34 ChrisDK 601
35 Comodoro 535
36 AupaPyama 522
37 NotMyCircus 515
38 DJW 505
39 Search 474
40 Josedin 462
41 Scrool07 362
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 326
43 Trudgin 150
CollectiveWisdom 863
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26 Mar 2017 19:37

Race 13: Gent-Wevelgem

Of the 5 riders who escaped on that rise out of Ypres, only 3 were on any teams, and only the one who faded most, Kragh Andersen, was on as many as two teams. The chasing sprinters, however, included some popular picks.

VAN AVERMAET Greg 1st, 220pts for All In
TERPSTRA Niki 4th, 96 for Scrool07
DEGENKOLB John 5th, 86pts for 34 teams
BOONEN Tom 6th, 76pts for Trudgin and DJSprtsch
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 9th, 52pts for 9 teams
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh 16th, 21pts for Comodoro and Josedin
THEUNS Edward 19th, 17 for 7 teams
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume 16pts 25 teams
STANNARD Ian 15 16
NAESEN Oliver 14 3
VLIEGEN Loïc 9 3
SÜTTERLIN Jasha 8 1
THWAITES Scott 7 2
OFFREDO Yoann 6 2
and 27 five point finishers


1 All_In 246 (Van Avermaet, Van Keisbulck and 2 fivers)
2 DJSprtsch 192 (Degenkolb, Boonen and 6 fivers)
3 AmisVelo 191 (Degenkolb, Gaviria, Theuns, Van Keisbulck and 4 fivers)
4 Spokenspin 184 (Degenkolb, Gaviria, Van Keisbulck, Stannard and 3 fivers)
5 Crevaison 164
6 Joelsim 159
7 EvansIsTheBest 154
8 TomJelte 153
9 Russell23 142
10 ThePirate81 139
10 Laarsland 139
12 Del1962 138
13 RoteLaterne 137
13 Squire 137
15 Vladimir 135
16 GPBlanco 132
17 JustSomeGuy 131
18 Hakkie 129
19 Scrool07 128
20 MellowVelo 127
21 Shalgo 123
22 Togo95 122
22 The_Asian 122
22 Comodoro 122
25 Kjellus 121
26 Archieboy 116
26 Madrazo 116
26 DJW 116
29 Search 113
30 Kazistuta 112
30 Trudgin 112
32 Leadbelly 111
32 SemirS 111
34 LightBing 106
34 Armchair 106
36 Josedin 99
37 GeraintTooFast 96
38 NotMyCircus 86
39 LosBrolin 78
40 AupaPyama 44
41 Carlo_Algatrensig 36
42 AG 35
43 ChrisDK 29
CollectiveWisdom 127

Standings

All In's audacious tactic gets him a top ten place, and while the top two stay the same, with the margin between them only slightly reduced, Mellow Velo overhauls Los Brolin to get the bottom step on the virtual podium. AG leaks a couple of places through Degenkolblessness, and DJSprtsch is riser of the day (8 places)

1 JustSomeGuy 1397
2 EvansIsTheBest 1273
3 MellowVelo 1188
4 LosBrolin 1156
5 Togo95 1128
6 Kazistuta 1105
7 AG 1068
8 Del1962 1063
9 Shalgo 1039
10 All_In 1022
11 Joelsim 1000
12 ThePirate81 979
13 Hakkie 963
14 Russell23 962
14 GeraintTooFast 962
16 RoteLaterne 939
17 GPBlanco 913
18 Spokenspin 862
19 Laarsland 850
20 The_Asian 835
21 Squire 825
22 DJSprtsch 822
23 Kjellus 820
24 Crevaison 819
25 Archieboy 816
26 AmisVelo 813
27 Madrazo 798
28 TomJelte 788
29 Leadbelly 779
30 LightBing 755
31 Vladimir 752
32 Armchair 738
33 SemirS 716
34 Comodoro 657
35 ChrisDK 630
36 DJW 621
37 NotMyCircus 601
38 Search 587
39 AupaPyama 566
40 Josedin 561
41 Scrool07 490
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 362
43 Trudgin 262
CollectiveWisdom 990
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02 Apr 2017 19:44

Race 14: Ronde van Vlaanderen

Between us, we selected all of the top 4, but only 10 of the top 30 (and only one of those picked in any numbers), and 33 of the other 91 finishers, getting 5 points each.

AG's faith in Philippe Gilbert is rewarded with a most impressive win, and the biggest haul available on a single race.

GILBERT Philippe 1st, 280 pts for AG
VAN AVERMAET Greg 2nd, 170 for All In
TERPSTRA Niki 3rd, 145 for Scrool07
VAN BAARLE Dylan 4th, 125 for Laarsland
DEGENKOLB John 6th, 90 for 34 teams
OFFREDO Yoann 14th, 38 for 2 teams
THWAITES Scott 16th, 32 for 2 teams
FELLINE Fabio 19th, 26 for 3 teams
NAESEN Oliver 23rd, 18 for 3 teams
CORT NIELSEN Magnus 30th, 6 for 1 team


1 AG 313 (Gilbert, Naesen and 3 fivers)
2 Laarsland 250 (Van Baarle, Degenolb and 3 fivers)
3 All_In 190 (Van Avermaet and 4 fivers)
4 Vladimir 185 (Degenkolb, Offredo, Thwaites and 4 fivers)
5 Scrool07 165 (Terpstra and 4 fivers)
6 Shalgo 158 (Degenkolb, Offredo and 6 fivers)
7 Comodoro 141
7 MellowVelo 141 (both Degenkolb, Felline and 5 fivers)
9 GPBlanco 130
9 Russell23 130 (both Degenkolb and 8 fivers)
11 JustSomeGuy 128 (Degenkolb, Naesen and 4 fivers)
12 Hakkie 125 (from here on down to 38th, it is essentially Degenkolb + (n-90)/5 fivers)
12 Madrazo 125
12 RoteLaterne 125
15 DJSprtsch 120
15 DJW 120
15 SemirS 120
15 ThePirate81 120
19 AmisVelo 115
19 Leadbelly 115
19 Search 115
19 Spokenspin 115
19 Squire 115
19 The_Asian 115
19 TomJelte 115
26 Joelsim 111
27 Archieboy 110
27 Crevaison 110
27 GeraintTooFast 110
27 Kjellus 110
27 LightBing 110
32 Armchair 105
32 EvansIsTheBest 105
32 Kazistuta 105
32 Togo95 105
36 Del1962 100
37 NotMyCircus 95
38 Carlo_Algatrensig 57
39 LosBrolin 41
40 AupaPyama 25
41 ChrisDK 23
42 Josedin 20
43 Trudgin 15
CollectiveWisdom 125

Standings

With 2 races left before we enter the phase of the game for which a totally different group of riders are likely to earn points, JSG extends his lead, and AG rises to 2nd place. Mellow Velo was 7th on the day, but still evicted from the podium due to Gilbert's performance. Another leap for GVA-lead All In, but his leap was exceeded by Laarsland (7 places) and Vladimir (8), becauseof the densely grouped part of the field they inhabit.

1 JustSomeGuy 1525
2 AG 1381
3 EvansIsTheBest 1378
4 MellowVelo 1329
5 Togo95 1233
6 All_In 1212
7 Kazistuta 1210
8 Shalgo 1197
8 LosBrolin 1197
10 Del1962 1163
11 Joelsim 1111
12 Laarsland 1100
13 ThePirate81 1099
14 Russell23 1092
15 Hakkie 1088
16 GeraintTooFast 1072
17 RoteLaterne 1064
18 GPBlanco 1043
19 Spokenspin 977
20 The_Asian 950
21 DJSprtsch 942
22 Squire 940
23 Vladimir 937
24 Kjellus 930
25 Crevaison 929
26 AmisVelo 928
27 Archieboy 926
28 Madrazo 923
29 TomJelte 903
30 Leadbelly 894
31 LightBing 865
32 Armchair 843
33 SemirS 836
34 Comodoro 798
35 DJW 741
36 Search 702
37 NotMyCircus 696
38 Scrool07 655
39 ChrisDK 653
40 AupaPyama 591
41 Josedin 581
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 419
43 Trudgin 277
CollectiveWisdom 1115

Scheldeprijs on Wednesday, see you then.
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05 Apr 2017 20:43

Race 15: Scheldeprijs

Last year, when Kittel was a very cheap pick, the Skittelprijs was a race that gave many points to many teams: not this year.

VIVIANI Elia 2nd, 84pts for Not My Circus and Shalgo
SINKELDAM Ramon 9th, 30 for GPBlanco
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 11th, 22 for DJSprtsch, Leadbelly and Spokenspin
VAN POPPEL Boy 12th, 18 forSemirS
THEUNS Edward 12pts for 7 teams
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael 11pts for 1
VAN ASBROECK Tom 10pts for 1
WIPPERT Wouter 9pts for 1
CORBEL Erwann 7pts for 2
SIEBERG Marcel 5pts for 4


1 Shalgo 84
1 NotMyCircus 84
3 GPBlanco 30
4 DJSprtsch 27
5 Carlo_Algatrensig 24
6 Spokenspin 22
6 Leadbelly 22
8 SemirS 18
9 Trudgin 17
10 Laarsland 12
10 Scrool07 12
10 Hakkie 12
10 ThePirate81 12
10 AmisVelo 12
10 Search 12
10 Armchair 12
17 JustSomeGuy 11
18 Del1962 7

All other teams score 0

Standings
1 JustSomeGuy 1536
2 AG 1381
3 EvansIsTheBest 1378
4 MellowVelo 1329
5 Shalgo 1281
6 Togo95 1233
7 All_In 1212
8 Kazistuta 1210
9 LosBrolin 1197
10 Del1962 1170
11 Laarsland 1112
12 ThePirate81 1111
12 Joelsim 1111
14 Hakkie 1100
15 Russell23 1092
16 GPBlanco 1073
17 GeraintTooFast 1072
18 RoteLaterne 1064
19 Spokenspin 999
20 DJSprtsch 969
21 The_Asian 950
22 AmisVelo 940
22 Squire 940
24 Vladimir 937
25 Kjellus 930
26 Crevaison 929
27 Archieboy 926
28 Madrazo 923
29 Leadbelly 916
30 TomJelte 903
31 LightBing 865
32 Armchair 855
33 SemirS 854
34 Comodoro 798
35 NotMyCircus 780
36 DJW 741
37 Search 714
38 Scrool07 667
39 ChrisDK 653
40 AupaPyama 591
41 Josedin 581
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 443
43 Trudgin 294
CollectiveWisdom 1115

Shalgo gets a 3 place rise on account of Viviani: other than him, only JSG and Del among the top ten scored at all. Amis Velo, however, somehow gets to jump 4 places midtable because of one 14th place.
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09 Apr 2017 20:37

Race 16: Paris-Roubaix

If ever the tactic employed by All In could work, GvA has done his best to make it work. But even on the day he wins his biggest race, All In is not top scorer.

The podium were all unique picks, 4th was a much more popular selection. We have 2 more of the top ten, another 7 out of the next ten, 4 more in the top 30, and 21 other 5 pointers.

VAN AVERMAET Greg 1st, 280pts for All In
STYBAR Zdenek 2nd, 170pts for Kjellus
LANGEVELD Sebastian 3rd, 145 for DJSprtsch
STUYVEN Jasper 4th, 125 for 15 teams
THEUNS Edward 8th, 80 for 7 teams
DEGENKOLB John 10th, 62 for 34
SENECHAL Florian 46 for Vladimir
BOONEN Tom 42 for Trudgin and DJSprtsch
OFFREDO Yoann 38 2 teams
BURGHARDT Marcus 32 1 team
ALLEGAERT Piet 30 2
MAES Nikolas 28 1
VAN BAARLE Dylan 24 1
OSS Daniel 22 5
SIEBERG Marcel 16 4
SINKELDAM Ramon 14 1
POLITT Nils 10 1

1 DJSprtsch 395 (Langeveld, Stuyven, Degenkolb, Boonen, Sieberg and one fiver)
2 Laarsland 306 (Stuyven, Degenkolb, Theuns, Van Baarle and three fivers)
3 Vladimir 298 (Stuyven, Degenkolb, Senechal, Offredo, Oss and one fiver)
4 All_In 290 (Van Avermaet and 2 fivers)
5 Hakkie 282 (Stuyven, Degenkolb, Theuns and three fivers)
6 ThePirate81 272 (Stuyven, Degenkolb, Theuns and one fiver)
7 Kjellus 237
8 Armchair 235
9 Shalgo 230
10 Archieboy 214
11 RoteLaterne 202
11 Madrazo 202
11 SemirS 202
14 MellowVelo 197
14 LightBing 197
14 DJW 197
17 TomJelte 192
18 AmisVelo 169
19 Search 152
20 Trudgin 143
21 JustSomeGuy 107
22 Scrool07 105
23 Russell23 104
24 GPBlanco 101
25 GeraintTooFast 77
25 Spokenspin 77
25 Squire 77
28 Togo95 72
28 The_Asian 72
28 Crevaison 72
28 Comodoro 72
28 NotMyCircus 72
33 EvansIsTheBest 67
33 Kazistuta 67
33 Leadbelly 67
36 Del1962 62
36 Joelsim 62
38 Carlo_Algatrensig 53
39 AG 45
40 ChrisDK 38
41 AupaPyama 10
42 Josedin 5
43 LosBrolin 0
CollectiveWisdom 202


Standings

JSG's lead is pegged back a bit, as Mellow Velo moves from 4th to 2nd. AG and Evans is the Best vacate the podium, Shalgo and All In move up within the top ten, and Laarsland, Pirate81, Hakkie and DJSprtsch joining that esteemed group. Vladimit shares with DJSprtsch the honour of being biggest riser in this race (10 places).

1 JustSomeGuy 1643
2 MellowVelo 1526
3 Shalgo 1511
4 All_In 1502
5 EvansIsTheBest 1445
6 AG 1426
7 Laarsland 1418
8 ThePirate81 1383
9 Hakkie 1382
10 DJSprtsch 1364
11 Togo95 1305
12 Kazistuta 1277
13 RoteLaterne 1266
14 Vladimir 1235
15 Del1962 1232
16 LosBrolin 1197
17 Russell23 1196
18 GPBlanco 1174
19 Joelsim 1173
20 Kjellus 1167
21 GeraintTooFast 1149
22 Archieboy 1140
23 Madrazo 1125
24 AmisVelo 1109
25 TomJelte 1095
26 Armchair 1090
27 Spokenspin 1076
28 LightBing 1062
29 SemirS 1056
30 The_Asian 1022
31 Squire 1017
32 Crevaison 1001
33 Leadbelly 983
34 DJW 938
35 Comodoro 870
36 Search 866
37 NotMyCircus 852
38 Scrool07 772
39 ChrisDK 691
40 AupaPyama 601
41 Josedin 586
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 496
43 Trudgin 437
CollectiveWisdom 1317

A brief look at the squads suggests that the hillier races have not been a major priority in selections among the teams at the top; The top pair, and Evans is the Best, have Kwiatkowski, All In obviously has Van Avermaet, and AG has Gilbert, but scoring in the last few races tends to be low. Here's the spreadsheet at Dropbox if you can find the riders who might yet make a difference.

After the Flandrian style race that is not in Flanders, the Ardennes style race that is not in the Ardennes: Brabantse Pijl on Wednesday.
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10 Apr 2017 01:22

Thanks for the update! On the podium for now, but I have few opportunities for points in the Ardennes.
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12 Apr 2017 17:58

Well, Benoot and De Plus did pick up some points for me today after all.
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shalgo wrote:Well, Benoot and De Plus did pick up some points for me today after all.


Earning you 3rd on the day, and a rise to 2nd overall.
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12 Apr 2017 20:28

Race 17: Brabantse Pijl

As an HC race, this had 30 riders who got points. Between us, we selected 9 of them: the highest placed being very popular, the others being on no more than 2 teams each.

BENOOT Tiesj 3rd, 72 points for 26 teams
LINDEMAN Bert-Jan 5th, 54 pts for Scrool07
DILLIER Silvan 8th, 36pts for Joelsim and Laarsland
DE PLUS Laurens 10th, 26pts for All In and Shalgo
GASPAROTTO Enrico 12pts 1 team
GILBERT Philippe 11 1
VANENDERT Jelle 6 1
HANSEN Lasse Norman 5 2
VAN DER SANDE Tosh 5 1

1 Scrool07 126 (Benoot and Lindeman)
2 Joelsim 108 (Benoot and Dillier)
3 Shalgo 98 (Benoot and De Plus)
4 AG 83 (Benoot and Gilbert)
5 Kjellus 77(Benoot and Hansen)
5 NotMyCircus 77(Benoot and Van Der Sande)
7 20 teams with Benoot 72
27 Laarsland 36
28 All_In 26
29 Trudgin 12
30 Vladimir 11
31 13 non-scorers 0
CollectiveWisdom 72

Standings

The biggest scorer was near ubiquitous, and lesser scorers rare picks, so not a great difference brought about today, but the podium has changed, with Benoot-less Mellow Velo falling from 2nd, overtaken by Shalgo and All In (also without Benoot, but with De Plus), Togo95 sneaks into the top ten, and Joelsim is top riser.

1 JustSomeGuy 1715
2 Shalgo 1609
3 All_In 1528
4 MellowVelo 1526
5 EvansIsTheBest 1517
6 AG 1509
7 ThePirate81 1455
8 Laarsland 1454
8 Hakkie 1454
10 Togo95 1377
11 DJSprtsch 1364
12 Kazistuta 1349
13 Del1962 1304
14 Joelsim 1281
15 Russell23 1268
16 RoteLaterne 1266
17 Vladimir 1246
17 GPBlanco 1246
19 Kjellus 1244
20 GeraintTooFast 1221
21 Archieboy 1212
22 LosBrolin 1197
23 TomJelte 1167
24 Armchair 1162
25 LightBing 1134
26 Madrazo 1125
27 AmisVelo 1109
28 The_Asian 1094
29 Squire 1089
30 Spokenspin 1076
31 Crevaison 1073
32 SemirS 1056
33 Leadbelly 1055
34 Search 938
34 DJW 938
36 NotMyCircus 929
37 Scrool07 898
38 Comodoro 870
39 ChrisDK 763
40 AupaPyama 601
41 Josedin 586
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 496
43 Trudgin 449
CollectiveWisdom 1389


Spreadsheet
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13 Apr 2017 02:18

Cool! It is nice to be in second, but it is hard to imagine a path to victory, or even for staying on the podium, compared to the teams with Kwiatkowski or Gilbert.

But it is certainly a fun game to try to put together the right combination of riders with such a variety of types of races on the schedule.
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13 Apr 2017 17:52

I have just noticed this afternoon that the GP de Denain is now HC category, as it was last year, and so should have been included in the game both then and this year.

Luckily, the highest placed rider that any of us picked was in 17th place:

HOELGAARD Daniel 17th, 9 non-points for Archieboy, DJW, Kjellus, Leadbelly, Los Brolin and NotMyCircus
BOIVIN Guillaume 23rd, 5 points snatched away from AupaPayama
DANIEL Maxime 26th, another 5 points cruelly stolen from NotMyCircus
CORBEL Erwann 27th, 5 points denied to Armchair Cyclist and Del1962

The highest placed affected team is in 13th place.

If any of the above teams feel that the points deprived by the non-inclusion of this race would have made a substantial difference to their chances of making up the several hundred points between them and the top of the table, thus depriving them of a shot at the extensive prize-pool, they can send me a stamped address envelope and I shall refund their entry fee in rusty 2p coins.

(Last year I had Thomas Boudat as a unique pick, and he came 2nd in this race)
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16 Apr 2017 20:40

Race 18: Amstel Gold

We did better than we often do in the Ardennes races, with the top 4 all selected and some big points for those near the top of the table.

GILBERT Philippe 1st, 220pts for AG
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 2nd, 132pts for 7 teams
ALBASINI Michael 3rd, 112 for Comodoro and DJW
HAAS Nathan 4th, 96 for AupaPyama, Del1962, Kazistuta and NotMyCircus
VAN AVERMAET Greg 12th, 35pts for All In
BENOOT Tiesj 14th, 27pts for 26 teams
LANGEVELD Sebastian 20th, 16 for DJSprtsch
FELLINE Fabio 29th, 7pts for 3 teams
and 15 of the 73 fivers.

1 Kazistuta 260 (Kwiatkowski, Haas, Benoot and a fiver)
2 Del1962 255 (Kwiatkowski, Haas and Benoot)
3 AG 247 (Gilbert and Benoot)
4 EvansIsTheBest 169 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot and 2 fivers)
4 Togo95 169 (Kwiatkowski, Benoot and 2 fivers)
6 JustSomeGuy 159 (Kwiatkowski and Benoot)
7 MellowVelo 144
7 LosBrolin 144
9 NotMyCircus 133
10 Comodoro 129
11 DJW 122
12 AupaPyama 96
13 Search 42
13 ChrisDK 42
15 Russell23 37
16 All_In 35
17 Shalgo 32
17 Hakkie 32
17 Joelsim 32
17 GPBlanco 32
17 Kjellus 32
17 Archieboy 32
17 TomJelte 32
17 Armchair 32
17 LightBing 32
17 Squire 32
17 Scrool07 32
28 ThePirate81 27
28 GeraintTooFast 27
28 The_Asian 27
28 Crevaison 27
28 Leadbelly 27
33 Laarsland 20
34 DJSprtsch 16
35 Vladimir 10
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 10
35 Trudgin 10
38 Madrazo 5
38 AmisVelo 5
38 SemirS 5
38 Josedin 5
42 RoteLaterne 0
42 Spokenspin 0
CollectiveWisdom 32

Standings
6 of the top 9 are among the 7 teams with Kwiatkowski: the other three are AG (who has Gilbert and moved up to 2nd place), Shalgo (whose best finisher today was Benoot and falls from 2nd to 5th) and All In, with a Van Avermaet based team and a four place drop to 7th). Los Brolin is the other Kwiatkowski owner, but his Degenkolb-free status has limited his total score, but he at least got the biggest (8 place) rise. Kazistuta and Del1962 are new in the top ten.

1 JustSomeGuy 1874
2 AG 1756
3 EvansIsTheBest 1686
4 MellowVelo 1670
5 Shalgo 1641
6 Kazistuta 1609
7 All_In 1563
8 Del1962 1559
9 Togo95 1546
10 Hakkie 1486
11 ThePirate81 1482
12 Laarsland 1474
13 DJSprtsch 1380
14 LosBrolin 1341
15 Joelsim 1313
16 Russell23 1305
17 GPBlanco 1278
18 Kjellus 1276
19 RoteLaterne 1266
20 Vladimir 1256
21 GeraintTooFast 1248
22 Archieboy 1244
23 TomJelte 1199
24 Armchair 1194
25 LightBing 1166
26 Madrazo 1130
27 Squire 1121
27 The_Asian 1121
29 AmisVelo 1114
30 Crevaison 1100
31 Leadbelly 1082
32 Spokenspin 1076
33 NotMyCircus 1062
34 SemirS 1061
35 DJW 1060
36 Comodoro 999
37 Search 980
38 Scrool07 930
39 ChrisDK 805
40 AupaPyama 697
41 Josedin 591
42 Carlo_Algatrensig 506
43 Trudgin 459
CollectiveWisdom 1421

I guess it is all down to what else Phil Gilbert has up his sleeve for the last two races as to whether the game is over or not. unless the spreadsheet points you to other possibilities.
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