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13 Sep 2018 05:13

Tigerion wrote:Holy fudge balls I made profit
I think it is safe to say that spending over half my budget on Quintana, Porte and Landa was a Brilliant strategy this year



Ouch! I thought I had some bad picks, you managed to get the trifecta of bad picks.
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15 Sep 2018 02:35

Thanks for the update! Very surprised to have moved into 6th overall, hopefully a top 10 overall is within reach.
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Re: The 2018 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

18 Sep 2018 17:21

Update #36: Vuelta fray clarifies the frontrunners

Well, it's a GT GC week, so the CQ game was ripe to have some bombs go off. As well, there were a few 1.1 and HC races, and must-have Julian Alaphilippe somehow wrangled another 150 or so points out of Slovakia of all places. This isn't quite the highest scoring week of all time in this game, but it's not far off, with 54(!!) teams scoring over 1000 points for the week.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 zlev11 1782
2 AlyKaptan 1779
3 fauniera 1626
4 Valv.Piti 1545
5 Maaaaaaaarten 1501

And with all those points, the race for the top is decided by only 3! zlev11 scores the narrow victory, which wouldn't have happened without being one of the four teams to pick Simon Yates. With 677 points on the week to get to a monstrous 2261 on the season, Yates leads the charge for zlev11's team. Oh wait, you say their team also has the rest of the podium? Enric Mas and Miguel Angel Lopez were both picked quite a bit more than Yates, but the podium combo is extremely valuable to have, accounting for 1521 points alone between them this week, which would get a team in the top 5 for the week. zlev11 was put over the top by the stage win of rare pick Jelle Wallays, as well as solid GC points from the more-anonymous Formolo and Brambilla. AlyKaptan also had an incredible week but came up just short, having the entire podium plus Brambilla as well, but a few less points from a supporting cast that included Cristian Rodriguez, Nizzolo, and the other Yates who got 21 points. Last year's winner fauniera leads the non-Yatesers for the week, having the other two on the podium, and the bold combo of Valverde and Alaphilippe.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 AlyKaptan (+24)
2 zlev11 (+21)
3 Amis_Velo (+16)
4 Kjellus (+14)
4 Leadbelly (+14)
4 Vesica (+14)

Even on this monumental points week, the moves up and down the standings are rather muted, due to the lateness of the season. The top 2 from the previous ranking switch places here, and Amis_Velo slips into third (despite being 24th on points for the week!), jumping 16 spots on the back of contributions from Lopez, Mas, Quintana, and a bunch of riders that got around 40 points like Cras, Van Poppel, or Manzin.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 Squire 240
2 archieboy 221
3 Eric10 214
4 greenedge 203
5 zlev11 186

It is a very new-look top 5 this week. Let's start at the top - Squire reclaims the pole position after being down 1 point to archieboy, getting 20 points for 6th place on the week. archieboy doesn't score any this week, but Eric10 scores 17 to leapfrog greenedge into the top 3. Weekly winner zlev11 uses those 45 points, meanwhile, to stake a claim in the top 5 overall as well. The top four teams are within a weekly win away from the top spot, but few opportunities are remaining in the year.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) ruvu75 14790
2 (-) Squire 14605
3 (-) TheArt 13908
4 (-) trackstand 13575
5 (-) Gigs_98 13542
6 (+4) Eyeballs Out 12965
7 (-) LosBrolin 12960
8 (+5) Total Package 12924
9 (+5) Wallenquist 12880
10 (+2) Manafana 12834

At first glance one might be inclined to think there wasn't much that came of this big week due to the lack of place swapping in the top 5, but that doesn't tell the whole story, as point differences amongst some contenders were quite pronounced. ruvu75 and Squire are locked in a battle at the top, and both kept it up this week, finishing tied for 7th and in sole position of 6th on the week, respectively. Squire gained 23 points, outscoring ruvu 1416 to 1393, which is a relatively minuscule difference but keeps things close enough that something like, say, a good Michael Woods performance in the Worlds could vault team Squire into top spot. The same can't be said for TheArt, who has doggedly been keeping pace with the top 2 until this week, as they scored a normally good 897 points and ended up 68th on the week, but losing 500 points in a week to their two rivals feels like a knockout blow. None of the rest of the top 10 outscored ruvu or Squire, effectively making this overall a two horse race. There are some impressive leaps in the bottom half of the top 10, with Total Package, Wallenquist and Manafana jumping in, while PeterB, kabete and greenedge fall out.

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18 Sep 2018 18:12

haha, those scores :surprised: :lol:

I actually scored more points than I thought I did and came lower than I thought I would! :lol:
think that was probably my record scoring week and I only moved up 2 positions. at least I am back into the top 20 (for now).
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18 Sep 2018 18:46

I am in much the same boat with escartin: with Mas, Lopez, Brambilla, Carapaz, Formolo, Nizzolo, and Van Poppel, I thought that I must have had a good week, but instead my team was only 40th on the week and I actually slipped one place in the overall standings. It goes to show just how many points were on offer this week.
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18 Sep 2018 20:06

Thanks for the update!

Fun fact: zlev11, who now won the Vuelta week by 3 points, lost out on the win in last year's Vuelta week by four points. I'd say it's deserved. :D

A podium seems pretty secure for my team now, which would make me happy. It would of course be great to win it, but I need something special to overtake Ruvu75. This week was quite frustrating in that regard. Whenever I had a Taaramäe in 2nd place, Ruvu had a Gasparotto in 3rd.
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18 Sep 2018 21:32

I really like that gap behind my fifth place and for the first time I actually feel comfortable of staying in this position. Moreover I gained some ground on trackstand and theArt so maybe, just maybe there is still a chance for a podium. One can dream, right :D
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18 Sep 2018 21:52

Thanks for the update. We're headed home tomorrow to clean up from the hurricane. The entire area has no internet, so no idea when it will be back so I can talk with you all again. May have limited coverage with cell phone data.
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18 Sep 2018 21:58

The recurring questions which comes back to haunt you:

What good does being 1 of 4 to pick strong roleur Valentin Madouas at 1200%-profit gain you overall
when
You pick both Aru and Ed Theuns at a 25%-profif as your two most expensive riders?

Mediocrity...
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18 Sep 2018 22:09

laarsland wrote:The recurring questions which comes back to haunt you:

What good does being 1 of 4 to pick strong roleur Valentin Madouas at 1200%-profit gain you overall
when
You pick both Aru and Ed Theuns at a 25%-profif as your two most expensive riders?

Mediocrity...



No kidding. I picked Madouas and Hodeg, but have riders like Rosen and Bettiol
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19 Sep 2018 06:34

Atapuma
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20 Sep 2018 08:29

Thanks for the update.
Well, here I thought the Vuelta would do me good. And I made over 1000 points - but still slipped down 4 places.
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20 Sep 2018 09:12

I am in the same boat. I had second, third and ninth in the Vuelta, scored over 1100 points and I still dropped a few spots.

It seems to me that the standard has been very high this year. I have made fewer mistakes than usual, picked a couple of crackers and I am still only 30th or so.
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Re: The 2018 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

25 Sep 2018 16:12

Update #37: Geraint has one more victory this year

It's a bit of a bridge week this week, with the Vuelta done and the Worlds to come (the 62 points offered to winners of the TTT this week was less than winning one of the 1.1 races this week), but a bunch of little races with similar fields could lead to a decent haul if you had a rider or two on form.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 Geraint Too Fast 494
2 Vesica 486
3 DJW 399
4 JPettersen 377
5 rote_laterne 368

The namesake of the team may have ended his season already, but Geraint Too Fast pulls out a victory this week with a very respectable 494 points. Leading the charge on that team is Gianni Moscon, who adds 147 points to his 80 points last week, breathing some life into a disappointing season (as a CQ points earner as well as a human being; although he only gets CQ points redemption this week). Also adding to the points haul is 4-time-TTT winner Nikki Terpstra in one of his last races with QuickStep, as well as 60 points from David Gaudu (who is also having a rather disappointing season). Add in some contributions from Bardet, Welten, Van Schip and a couple of the Sunweb TTTers and you've got a winning formula. Vesica comes oh so close but has to settle for second, unsurprisingly with Moscon leading the way as well, but also with a few other 'steppers in De Plus and Schachmann, and the very fast and very young Jasper Philipsen. DJW is a little bit behind in third, with a similar but less robust slate of riders as the top two.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Vesica (+7)
2 rote_laterne (+6)
2 scrooll07 (+6)
4 Geraint Too Fast (+5)
4 WKA311 (+5)

Not a lot of spots to move around by the end of the season. Vesica does one better on this chart, getting the weekly win for moving up seven spots. rote_laterne and scrooll07 tie for second, bettering their 5th and 6th on the other chart (interesting note - scrooll is the highest non-Mosconite this week, instead being powered by 140 points from unique pick Mads Pedersen).

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 Squire 240
2 archieboy 221
3 Eric10 218
4 greenedge 203
5 zlev11 186

A relatively quiet week - Eric10 gets 4 points for 14th on the week to inch up closer to the top, but no other real gains of note at the top.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (-) ruvu75 15106
2 (-) Squire 14720
3 (-) TheArt 14108
4 (-) trackstand 13896
5 (-) Gigs_98 13683
6 (+1) LosBrolin 13142
7 (+1) Total Package 13125
8 (-2) Eyeballs Out 13119
9 (+2) MADRAZO 13092
10 (-) Manafana 12999

There is a somewhat anticlimactic stratification at the top, but of course at the end of the season all it takes is one rider that others don't have to have a good run in some big races. ruvu75 gains 201 points on Squire this week, scoring 316 to Squire's 115. Squire does have a few possibilities, like Woods for the Worlds/Lombardia and Ciccone for the hilly Italian races, but perhaps a more likely scenario is that they both get points when Alaphilippe wins everything in the next few weeks. TheArt is still on the podium by a couple of hundred, but trackstand closes the gap a bit with some Moscon points. The top 5 seems pretty set in some order, but spots 6 through 10 are still quite close. MADRAZO swaps places with Wallenquist to move into the top 10 while the latter moves out.

Who's gonna score big at the Worlds? The TT seems fairly minimal impact in that if the Dennis/Dumoulin combo takes the top 2 as expected, there won't be tons of points in this game, but the RR has some intrigue. If it all goes according to 'the best duke it out' then it could definitely be a Alaphilippe romp, with some hope for those who have Valverde and possibly Moscon. But if the favourites mark each other, a punchy underrated rider could take a flier, or if they watch each other too much it could come back together for the Sagans and Van Avermaets of the world. Or some Colombians, or Kwiatko, or whatever. We shall see!

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25 Sep 2018 22:24

Better than expected this week. Plus one more rider in positive numbers, that's always nice to see.
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01 Oct 2018 07:52

Squire wrote:A podium seems pretty secure for my team now, which would make me happy. It would of course be great to win it, but I need something special to overtake Ruvu75. This week was quite frustrating in that regard. Whenever I had a Taaramäe in 2nd place, Ruvu had a Gasparotto in 3rd.

Something special like Woods' ride yesterday? :)

Should be a very close final.
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Re: The 2018 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

01 Oct 2018 14:38

Well, that was an exciting worlds. Despite my team's utter mediocrity this year, being able to cheer for Vavlerde without the slightest back-of-my-mind thought that well, if he doesn't win, maybe one of my CQ guys can get points, was a highlight of the year.

Re: the game, this is an important update, but CQ doesn't have it up yet (9:30am in Canada) and I've gotta teach two 3-hour classes today, then a meeting, then an evening engagement. So the update will have to come tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing how things shake out.
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01 Oct 2018 17:48

fauniera wrote:
Squire wrote:A podium seems pretty secure for my team now, which would make me happy. It would of course be great to win it, but I need something special to overtake Ruvu75. This week was quite frustrating in that regard. Whenever I had a Taaramäe in 2nd place, Ruvu had a Gasparotto in 3rd.

Something special like Woods' ride yesterday? :)

Should be a very close final.

Something exactly like that. :D

I'm still a bit off 1st place, though. I think I'll beat ruvu by roughly the same amount of points as they beat me with last week, so we're back to how it was two weeks ago. But Woods' ride gives me hope that he can score some more points in the upcoming Italian races, so even though I'm still a bit behind, I feel like I have a chance afterall.
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01 Oct 2018 21:52

What a ride by Valverde and a win that he wanted for so long. Great to see him finally get it.

Of course he's on my CQ team as well. Oh and he's said he's going to race Lombardia with the rainbow jersey. He's looking forward to it.
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Re: The 2018 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

02 Oct 2018 14:43

Update #38: Worlds points tightens things at the top

The biggest single-race points on offer were the 400 points for the Worlds Road Race, which were handed out this week. Winner Valverde has been a factor in this game, although fellow favourite and CQ game essential Alaphilippe only got 8th place points (which are still somewhat substantial), and with the other top 10 riders mostly rare or non-picked riders, it's going to be an interesting week.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 Giallo 752
2 Geraint Too Fast 658
3 will10 651
4 Kryvo 627
5 fauniera 618

Giallo's top-heavy team strategy pays off this week, as they are the only team with Valverde (15 teams), Alaphilippe (59 teams) and Moscon (21 teams) - if Sagan had had a better day, their team's point total would have been stratospheric. That's most of the scoring though - other than a few points here and there (Navardauskus randomly wins a 2.2 race for 33 points, rare pick Milan Menten picks up the same amount), that's more than enough to win the week by almost 100 points. Second place this week is last week's winner Geraint Too Fast, who actually doesn't have Valverde, but is one of the two teams with second place Bardet, as well as Moscon and Alaphilippe (and contributing points from Oomen, Taaramae and the aforementioned Milan Menten, who I have never heard of before this post). Rounding out the top 3 is will10, with another interesting non-Valverde mix of Michael Woods (9 teams), Victor Campanaerts (4 teams) and David Villella (5 teams), who got 141 points in Kazakhstan this week. Also popping up at the bottom of this week's top 5 is last year's winner fauniera, whose bold Valverde-Alaphilippe strategy paid off this week.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Kryvo (+12)
2 Giallo (+11)
3 Koronin (+8)
3 Akuryo (+8)
3 search (+8)

Kryvo, who was 4th in the last chart and missed the podium by 24 points, takes top spot over Giallo here, moving up 12 points on the strength of double World Champion picks Valverde and Marc Hirschi. There's a 3-way tie for 3rd, with Koronin, Akuryo, and search each leaping 8 points in the standings.

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 Squire 240
2 archieboy 221
3 Eric10 218
4 greenedge 203
5 Kryvo 193

No movement at the very top - leader Squire ends up in 16th place for the week, just out of the points. Kryvo jumps into the top 5 with the 26 points their team got on the week, and further down in the top 10 we have Geraint Too Fast, Giallo and fauniera jumping in on the strength of big weeks. Still, only the top 4 are within a weekly win of first place.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points Points this week
1 (-) ruvu75 15377 271
2 (-) Squire 15240 520
3 (-) TheArt 14457 349
4 (-) trackstand 14393 497
5 (-) Gigs_98 14005 322
6 (+3) MADRAZO 13536 444
7 (-1) LosBrolin 13448 306
8 (+5) kabete 13412 488
9 (-1) Eyeballs Out 13389 270
10 (+1) Wallenquist 13319 325

I added the "Points this week" column so you can see for yourselves how it's playing out at the top. ruvu75 still leads, but it's a lead that's drastically slashed. I mentioned last week that a good performance by Woods at the Worlds could pull Squire back from the deficit their team faced, and indeed the gap has closed to 137 points, which is 249 points closer than last week. TheArt is a distant third, and being closed on by trackstand, who is now within 64 points of the podium after another solid week. Down a bit farther, kabete and Wallenquist jump into the top 10, while Total Package and Manafana fall out.

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