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18 Mar 2018 20:01

Gaviria's inability to stay on his bike has ruined the game for me this season.

Stannard also look like a waste of a pick :mad:

Pleased with Hodeg's pick though !

Crucial few weeks coming up and Stybar will have to do really well for me to have any chance of moving in to the Top 10 .
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19 Mar 2018 03:54

Update #10: The Rich Get Richer - Top 4 of the Week are Top 4 Overall

**note: I'm still looking for people to take on the posting of the updates for June and July. If you are interested, please let me know either here or by PM, thanks!**

I saw that the update was out on Sunday so I've got a jump on it this week!

The first monument of the classics season is done! It is not having quite as much of an impact on the standings as last year's, when a very popular Kwiatkowski took the win. This year, a rider nobody had - Vincenzo Nibali, who is very good every year and thus likely wouldn't have a much higher ceiling than his score - took out a thrilling victory, but took those 280 points away from everyone in this game. There were also the points for the GC of Tirenno on offer, which also didn't affect the game too much, as winner Kwiatkowski was only on 2 teams this year, again because of his good showing last season. That meant a combo of placings in these races and the 3 1.HC races (none of which were above 1.1 3 years ago - what's up with the UCI upping the category for nearly every race?) would give the best chance of victory this week.

This Week's Top Scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 TheArt 893
2 ruvu75 822
3 Squire 764
4 Nathanptz 753
5 Hugo Koblet 728

If the name at the top looks familiar, it's because it's the same one that was at the top of the leaderboard in Week 6. TheArt takes a second weekly win of the year, scoring a whopping 893 points this week! Last time it was rare pick Lutsenko in Oman that powered their team to victory as well as Geraint Thomas in Algarve. This time, Thomas' 162 points from Tirenno lead the way, but not far behind is the impressive neo-pro Fabio Jakobsen with 155 this week. Triple digit scores from Jurgen Roelandts and Davide Formolo help a lot, as do a pair of 84-point showings from Halvorsen and Capiot. ruvu75 is the only team to come remotely close, with all those riders but Capiot, and a healthy collection of 40+ points from supporting riders. Squire rounds out the podium with a nice week from many of those same riders.

This Week's High Movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Hugo Koblet (+42)
2 oliveira (+35)
2 Poles & Co. (+35)
4 Shawnm4747 (+33)
5 laarsland (+31)

Normally there is significant overlap between this list and the previous one, but... well, read the title of this post. Game founder Hugo Koblet, the highest scoring team that wasn't already in or almost in the top 10, takes a solid 42 point leap up the charts. Despite lamenting the loss of Gaviria, his team fills in admirably, as one of the only teams with both QuickStep neo-pros that scored big this week, Jakobsen and Hodeg... or so I thought before writing the next sentence. oliveira and Poles & Co. tie for 2nd with equal 35 point leaps, and they also each have both of those guys (plus oliveira has Sagan, and Poles & Co. has Ewan).

Green Jersey Competition

Rank Team Total
1 TheArt 90
1 Jon_Ezeitza 90
3 Nathanptz 80
3 Kryvo 80
5 archieboy 77

We have some real changes at the top! With a second weekly win, TheArt matches Jon Ezeitza's feat from earlier in the year, and therefore their teams are tied since neither has any top 15 placing points from other weeks. Nathanptz gets 26 points this week to leap into a tie for 3rd with Kryvo as well. Lower down, PeterB jumps into the top 10 but no other scorers in the very top of the board.

Top 10 Overall

Rank Up/down Team Points
1 (+1) Nathanptz 3290
2 (+8) TheArt 3264
3 (+1) Squire 3228
4 (+11) ruvu75 3158
5 (-4) Blues in the bottle 3099
6 (-3) Popchu 3021
7 (+5) LosBrolin 2931
8 (+1) Valv.Piti 2911
9 (-4) Kryvo 2890
10 (-2) trackstand 2885

A real jackpot for the top teams this week as already mentioned - Nathanptz gets 4th on the week but was already in 2nd place, and so their team regains the lead from last week's leader Blues in the bottle. Squire already was in 4th and gets 3rd on the week, but TheArt was in 10th last week and scored so many more points than anyone else that their team leapfrogs nearly everyone into 2nd overall. ruvu75 turns a good week into a top 10, and LosBrolin jumps in the top 10 as well, while CQmanager and DJ Sprtsch fall out.

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19 Mar 2018 12:05

As I expected I dropped a bit this week. Coming weeks are going to be difficult for me with a very poor team for cobbles. Hopefully Catalunya and País Vasco can compensate for that and then with Alaphilippe and Izagirre I can strike in the Ardennes (just somewhat wary of the Valverdites).

Catalunya
MAS Enric
CHAVES Johan Esteban
POWER Robert
FORMOLO Davide
CARTHY Hugh
GASPAROTTO Enrico
BENNETT George
GAUDU David
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19 Mar 2018 13:48

+19 on the week, very happy with that :) just 1 place away from top-30!

I am quite excited about the upcoming races, hoping for another good week

Tour de Langkawi (2.HC)
Guardini
Minali

Volta a Catalunya (2.WT)
Mas
Pantano
Chaves
Formolo
Latour
Martinez
Gaudu

Driedaagse De Panne (1.HC)
Jakobsen
Senechal
Coquard
Capiot

Settimana Coppi e Bartali (2.1)
Rosa
Felline
Conci

E3 Harelbeke (1.WT)
Bettiol
Terpstra
Halvorsen
Coquard
Senechal?

Gent-Wevelgem (1.WT)
Bettiol
Senechal
Terpstra
Halvorsen
Capiot
Coquard


Langkawi has started off well with 2 wins in 2 stages. Minali unfortunately doesn't climb nearly well enough to have a chance at finishing among the best on Cameron Highlands like Gibbons last year, so I have to hope he and Guardini sweep all sprint stages :p and of course I would rather see Minali win as he is a more expensive and rarer pick :)

In Catalunya I have a long list of GC guys, Pantano and Formolo will lead their teams after starting earlier races as second fiddle. Gaudu will apparently also lead FdJ instead of Pinot and Martinez is a late addition after Uran fell ill. I hope I can get several of my riders in the top-10.

Settimana Coppi e Bartali is another race I am eyeing with interest. The startlist isn't nearly complete, but allegedly Rosa is getting a free/lead role for Sky which is an opportunity he will hopefully grab with both hands. I am thinking Brambilla and Conci have a chance of scoring some GC points here as well, but I am eagerly awaiting Trek's complete lineup to see if Felline will be on it. He is my most expensive pick this year and hasn't delivered at all yet. When I picked him I hoped he had recovered from last year's illness and could maybe score ~70% of what he scored last spring, to then add to that in the 2nd half of the season to score a nice profit. The way it looks now even breaking even would be a win, but he has looked slightly better in recent races than at the very start of the season. He isn't in Trek's lineup for the Belgian weekend which makes me suspect he is supposed to race Coppi e Bartali.
Fingers crossed :)

EDIT: Felline is on Coppi e Bartali startlist, Brambilla isn't. Mollema is racing for Trek as well though which could limit Felline and Conci's chances.
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19 Mar 2018 19:27

I'm very happy with my picks of Madouas and Hodeg. Even though I've lost a couple spots this week, they saved my week along with a decent points from Roson. This week Valverde is back racing and already finishing top 10 on a sprint stage.

My riders for this week:

Catalonia

Valverde
Soler
Schachmann
Hodog
Formolo
Carthy
O'Conner
Cummings
Mas (Luis - Caja Rural)


E3 Harelbeke

Bettiol
Stybar
Terpstra
Amador
Sutterlin
Doull


Gent - Wevelgem

Stybar
Terpstra
Betancur
Doull
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19 Mar 2018 21:58

Hodeg is looking a really good pick. Just as well because Gav is sucking. I have an embarrassment of riches in Catalunya ...Valverde, Soler, Mas, Hodeg, Jungelsand others. Need them to score big now that Gav and Cav have repeatedly crashed and burned.
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19 Mar 2018 22:32

Yeah, feels bad about Gav and Cav, but many are in the same boat (especially on Cav).
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20 Mar 2018 09:12

Moved to 21th postion. My highest position of this year,

Volta Ciclista a Catalunya
MAS Enric
FORMOLO Davide
CHAVES Johan Esteban
LAMBRECHT Bjorg
GAUDU David

Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde
JAKOBSEN Fabio
CAPIOT Amaury
COQUARD Bryan
WAEYTENS Zico

Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali
SIVAKOV Pavel
ROSA Diego
OLIVIER Daan

Record Bank E3 Harelbeke
TERPSTRA Niki
WALLAYS Jelle
MOSCON Gianni
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
DE BIE Sean
COQUARD Bryan
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20 Mar 2018 21:34

I've never been in the lead in this game, and was hoping this last update would be the first time for me. Until Roelandts popped up in MSR again. I'll just find comfort in the possibility that I might be better off without him in the long run. And I'm of course thrilled with being on the podium!

I've got no hope of taking the lead this week either, with Valverde mopping up everything in Catalunya.

So who can I hope will compensate for the green machine?

Tour de Normandie (2.2)
BOL Cees

My only unique pick picked up 2 points in the first stage, but being a 2.2 race, it's not like I should be looking to Normandie for my points this week. Was disappointed that the cesspool's team didn't ride the Ronde van Drenthe. Unfortunately he's down for mostly .2 races this spring.

Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (2.UWT)
MAS Enric
CHAVES Johan Esteban
FORMOLO Davide
LATOUR Pierre
WOODS Michael
DUARTE Fabio

Not bad at all. Only GC guys. All of them can be top 10-15.
I'm awfully stupid for not picking Hodeg though. *bangs head against wall*

Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde (1.HC)
JAKOBSEN Fabio
CAPIOT Amaury
COQUARD Bryan

Is it allowed to hope that Viviani has a timely puncture in the last 5 km? :p

Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali (2.1)
BETANCUR Carlos
CICCONE Giulio
EIKING Odd Christian
ENGER Sondre Holst

Come on Giulio, show me why I picked you!

Record Bank E3 Harelbeke (1.UWT)
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
DE BIE Sean
COQUARD Bryan
MÜLLER Patrick

Not exactly loaded with potential winners.

Cholet - Pays de la Loire (1.1)
TAARAMÄE Rein
JONES Brenton

There has been four Estonian victories in this race, but I'm not holding my breath.

Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields (1.UWT)
VAN POPPEL Danny
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
CAPIOT Amaury
DE BIE Sean
COQUARD Bryan

Bunch sprint, pretty please?!
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21 Mar 2018 04:13

Valverde just won a 94-rider sprint in Catalunya over Impey and McCarthy, weeks away from age 38. The man is like Roger Federer and Tom Brady combined. Unreal. Who else have I got this week?

Catalunya


Alejandro Valverde
Enric Mas
Esteban Chaves
Pierre Latour
David Gaudu

Other than the obvious, I'm hoping Mas does something, though we will see if he works for Jungels. Apparently Gaudu has the lead at FDJ and Latour seems like the option for AG2R, so I'll keep my fingers crossed on that.

I've got Guardini in Malaysia, too.

De Panne

Amaury Capiot
Bryan Coquard

Not sure what my overall prospects are, although both of these guys should feature in stages. Coquard has not looked great so far this year, though.

Coppi e Bartali (so far)

Pavel Sivakov
Sondre Holst Enger

Very excited to see what Sivakov can do. The late start might help him in that he'll fill out his race days in the later summer/fall schedule where he could get more leadership opportunities. We'll see how it goes in round 1. There's Rosa on the team, but he should have a free role.

E3

Jurgen Roelandts
Heinrich Haussler
Ivan Garcia Cortina
Owain Doull
Kristoffer Halvorsen
Bryan Coquard

Hmm... Roelandts is a good option as a foil for GvA in any classic I think. Coquard probably can't make the finale of this race even on good form. Haussler is for sure a good threat, but we'll see if he outlasts Colbrelli, probably not. Halvorsen is there to learn, Doull and Garcia are there to work, although they're rare picks of mine so I'll cross my fingers that they get in the right break of secondary riders and everyone else looks at each other. That's the kind of roll of the dice I got them for.

G-W

same plus Capiot. More chance of Halvorsen sprinting for a high place (tho probably not in his first year), more chance of Coquard, more chance of Roelandts being the option, less of Haussler. So overall, maybe a bit more hopeful for this one?

French 1.1 races - hmm, no one I think? Most of my chips are in Catalunya I guess.
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21 Mar 2018 04:36

skidmark wrote:
De Panne

Amaury Capiot
Bryan Coquard

Not sure what my overall prospects are, although both of these guys should feature in stages. Coquard has not looked great so far this year, though.


You must be busy,Skidmark - it's not like you to miss that De Panne is a one-day race this year, and almost certain to be a sprint. That bodes well for a good "overall" placing for both Coquard and slightly less Capiot.
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21 Mar 2018 14:22

The less said about my team's performances during the last couple of weeks, the better.

Congrats to skidmark for being the first person to score (cumulatively) 100k ;) Next up is Kazistuta with almost 5k to go still.
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21 Mar 2018 15:15

Kazistuta wrote:
skidmark wrote:
De Panne

Amaury Capiot
Bryan Coquard

Not sure what my overall prospects are, although both of these guys should feature in stages. Coquard has not looked great so far this year, though.


You must be busy,Skidmark - it's not like you to miss that De Panne is a one-day race this year, and almost certain to be a sprint. That bodes well for a good "overall" placing for both Coquard and slightly less Capiot.


Haha yeah I'm live streaming it in the background as I do some work and I'm like "wait, what?" I now remember reading multiple articles about it last year but it was totally not on my radar lately. I definitely didn't look at the parcours, just assumed it was a three day thing with a tough hilly stage, a flat stage, and a short TT as it was historically. Yeesh. Good thing you pick your team in December and then it's set for the whole year, if I had to pay attention to detail now I'd be toast.

Although I must say it's maybe an understandable oversight to assume a race still called "THREE DAYS" that has always been three days might still be three days :D
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21 Mar 2018 16:11

So let's not talk about "4 Jours De Dunkerque" :lol:

(Spoiler: It's certainly not four days this year.. and other years)
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21 Mar 2018 18:22

I still have a lot of my GC guys in the mix in Catalunya, Latour, Gaudu, Martinez, Mas and Formolo haven't lost any time yet but Pantano lost close to a minute on stage 2 (not a clue why) and annoyingly after the route change he probably would have been my best bet at a top-10. I doubt the others can finish top-10 with La Molina of all climbs as the deciding factor. :o
And I'm not happy to see Senechal in a domestique role race after race while he looks so strong :mad: these are the races he should be scoring in damnit
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21 Mar 2018 22:41

I was getting excited every time Viviani won until Recently when i realised he didn’t make the final cut. Benoot and Soler were also in my final considerations.
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22 Mar 2018 03:51

I'velo wrote:I was getting excited every time Viviani won until Recently when i realised he didn’t make the final cut. Benoot and Soler were also in my final considerations.

I do that sometimes as well but normally it is that I had them on a previous years team
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22 Mar 2018 13:03

Craddock soon in to the profit :cool: That didn't require very much tho
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22 Mar 2018 17:51

Screw this.. I'm picking Valverde next year no matter his cost :D
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22 Mar 2018 19:52

LaFlorecita wrote:I still have a lot of my GC guys in the mix in Catalunya, Latour, Gaudu, Martinez, Mas and Formolo haven't lost any time yet but Pantano lost close to a minute on stage 2 (not a clue why) and annoyingly after the route change he probably would have been my best bet at a top-10. I doubt the others can finish top-10 with La Molina of all climbs as the deciding factor. :o
And I'm not happy to see Senechal in a domestique role race after race while he looks so strong :mad: these are the races he should be scoring in damnit

Latour with a great showing today and Dani Martinez still in the mix for a top-10 as well. Not that bad :)
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