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24 Feb 2018 09:46

SemirS wrote:I have already sent you my team via PM, but it looks like the message wasn't delivered. Can I post my team here, since i assume that all teams are already in and that I am the last one?


Seem to have the same problem here. PM remains in "Outbox".
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24 Feb 2018 10:16

Semir & Bbass: I have your teams, sent at 9:12 and 9:13 respectively this morning. I was having I lie in.

Froschi: check your inbox at Velorooms

Del1962 has also posted a team at Velorooms in apparent frustration of not getting through here. My Inbox is not full, but if your name is not in the OP or listed below,, leave a note on the board here or use Velorooms PMing.

Received overnight/this morning:
The Asian
Zaka Fan
Del1962
DFA123
Bbass
SemirS
Laarsland
Froschi

Edit: Those last entries are all within budget and legitimate (although one of them rather short on numbers).
Slight glitch on the spreadsheet sorted, so I'll start the number crunching and team analysis shortly.
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Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game

24 Feb 2018 11:52

I got 8 guys on the startlist from my team today. Interesting to see how they do...
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Re:

24 Feb 2018 12:02

Armchair cyclist wrote: I was having I lie in.


Heresy!

Word of advice to you a bit stressed out that the message is only in your outbox, I think the system here works so that it's listed in your outbox until the recipient has actually opened it. It has nothing to do with it not getting through.
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24 Feb 2018 13:33

38 teams in (there is a 39th, which I'll explain below), which is a bit of a drop from previous years, with some regulars missing, but great to have some new entrants.

Teams
Alphabetical order, price order within teams, asterisks show unique picks.

Amis Velo
Vanmarcke Sep
Stybar Zdenek
Terpstra Niki
Van Baarle Dylan
Langeveld Sebastian
Roelandts Jürgen
Offredo Yoann
Vliegen Loïc
De Vreese Laurens
De Bie Sean
Allegaert Piet
Vandenbergh Stijn

Armchair Cyclist
BENOOT Tiesj
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN LERBERGHE Bert
DEVENYNS Dries
GAUDIN Damien *
STANNARD Ian
BRESCHEL Matti
GASPAROTTO Enrico
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury

B'bass
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
LUTSENKO Alexey *
TERPSTRA Niki
ROWE Luke
GOUGEARD Alexis *
EDMONDSON Alexander
GASPAROTTO Enrico
CARBEL SVENDGAARD Michael *
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno

Blues_in_the_Bottle
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
VAN LERBERGHE Bert
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROWE Luke
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
PHINNEY Taylor
MOSER Moreno

Chiron
vanmarcke sep
van aert wout
mccarthy jay *
VAN BAARLE Dylan
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey *
conti valerio *
oss daniel
van poppel boy *
edmondson alexander
de tier floris *
phinney taylor
MOSER Moreno

Comodoro
FELLINE Fabio
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN BAARLE Dylan
CAVENDISH Mark
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
OSS Daniel
GERTS Floris
VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem *
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas *
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury

Del1962
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN POPPEL Danny
CAVENDISH Mark
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
ROSA Diego
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
NIZZOLO Giacomo
GUARDINI Andrea *
ALBANESE Vincenzo *
ENGER Sondre Holst

DFA123
Vanmarcke Sep
Stybar Zdenek
Van Aert Wout
Van Baarle Dylan
Debusschere Jens
Roelandts Jürgen
Vermote Julien
Gasparotto Enrico
Nizzolo Giacomo
Vandenbergh Stijn
Moser Moreno
Seigle Romain *

DJSprtsch
DE BUYST Jasper *
VANMARCKE Sep
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh *
DEVENYNS Dries
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
CLAEYS Dimitri *
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto *
VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter
DOUBEY Fabien *
KÖNIG Leopold
ENGER Sondre Holst

DJW
MOSCON Gianni
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
LANGEVELD Sebastian
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
MOLARD Rudy
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
STANNARD Ian
BRESCHEL Matti
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CAPIOT Amaury
BASSO Leonardo *

Fauniera
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN AERT Wout
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
BETTIOL Alberto
VAN POPPEL Danny
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
GOGL Michael *
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
GANNA Filippo
VANDENBERGH Stijn
MOSER Moreno

Froschi
VANMARCKE Sep
HAAS Nathan *
TERPSTRA Niki
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas *
BETTIOL Alberto
LANGEVELD Sebastian
ROELANDTS Jürgen
STANNARD Ian

GPBlanco
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
GESINK Robert *
OSS Daniel
WALLAYS Jelle *
DE BIE Sean
WAEYTENS Zico *
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
ENGER Sondre Holst

Hakkie
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
THWAITES Scott
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
STANNARD Ian
GASPAROTTO Enrico
BASKA Erik
CAPIOT Amaury

Joelsim
FELLINE Fabio
THEUNS Edward
VANMARCKE Sep
CAVENDISH Mark
IMPEY Daryl
COQUARD Bryan
OWEN Logan
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CAPIOT Amaury
WARLOP Jordi
ENGER Sondre Holst

Josedin
BARBIER Rudy *
VAN AERT Wout
VERMELTFOORT Coen *
VAN DER HOORN Taco *
DEVENYNS Dries
KEISSE Iljo *
DEVRIENDT Tom *
VENDRAME Andrea *
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
JAKOBSEN Fabio *
MCNULTY Brandon *
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose *

Kazistuta
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
FELLINE Fabio
VANMARCKE Sep
COQUARD Bryan
NAESEN Lawrence
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
GANNA Filippo
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
BOECKMANS Kris

Laarsland
COLBRELLI Sonny *
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
ROELANDTS Jürgen
OSS Daniel
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
BIERMANS Jenthe
GANNA Filippo
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury

Leadbelly
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
EDMONDSON Alexander
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
MOSER Moreno
MARCOTTE Eric *
ENGER Sondre Holst

Los Brolin
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
ROELANDTS Jürgen
KENNAUGH Peter
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
MOSER Moreno
ENGER Sondre Holst

Madrazo
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
BLYTHE Adam
ROELANDTS Jürgen
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
STANNARD Ian
GERTS Floris
BRESCHEL Matti
GASPAROTTO Enrico
VANDENBERGH Stijn

Mellow Velo
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
VAN BAARLE Dylan
COQUARD Bryan
STANNARD Ian
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
BOECKMANS Kris
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat *

NairoQ
THEUNS Edward
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
VAKOC Petr *
DEVENYNS Dries
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
STANNARD Ian
HAUSSLER Heinrich
BIERMANS Jenthe
VANDENBERGH Stijn
MOSER Moreno
KÖNIG Leopold

Nathanptz
STYBAR Zdenek
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROOSEN Timo
EIKING Odd Christian *
OSS Daniel
THWAITES Scott
KENNAUGH Peter
GERTS Floris
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury

NorthAmericanScum
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN AERT Wout
BOOM Lars *
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
VERMOTE Julien
OSS Daniel
NAESEN Lawrence
OWEN Logan
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich

Rote Laterne
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
TERPSTRA Niki
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
GUARNIERI Jacopo *
ENGER Sondre Holst
GAREL Adrien *
TANNER David *

Russell23
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
OSS Daniel
THWAITES Scott
STANNARD Ian
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury

Salvarani
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
BETTIOL Alberto
ROOSEN Timo
LIGTHART Pim *
BLYTHE Adam
SINKELDAM Ramon *
ROELANDTS Jürgen
VERMOTE Julien
TEUNISSEN Mike *
THWAITES Scott
VLIEGEN Loïc
DE BIE Sean

Scrool07
BENOOT Tiesj
TERPSTRA Niki
VANENDERT Jelle *
LANGEVELD Sebastian
DEVENYNS Dries
MOLARD Rudy
COQUARD Bryan
OFFREDO Yoann
DE VREESE Laurens
BRESCHEL Matti
VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter
VANDENBERGH Stijn

Search
MOSCON Gianni
FELLINE Fabio
STYBAR Zdenek
VAN POPPEL Danny
GATTO Oscar *
GASPAROTTO Enrico
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
DE BACKER Bert *
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno

SemirS
NAESEN Oliver *
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN BAARLE Dylan
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
HAYMAN Mathew *
STANNARD Ian
DE VREESE Laurens
PLANCKAERT Edward *
BRESCHEL Matti
BASKA Erik
BIERMANS Jenthe
LEEMANS Rob *

Shalgo
DEGENKOLB John *
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
ROSA Diego
STANNARD Ian
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
ENGER Sondre Holst

So 2017
GILBERT Philippe *
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
LANGEVELD Sebastian
ROELANDTS Jürgen
VALLEE Boris *
SISR Frantisek *
ALLEGAERT Piet
VANDENBERGH Stijn
FARAZIJN Maxime *
MORICE Julien *
VAN ROOY Kenneth *

Squire
MOSCON Gianni
STYBAR Zdenek
VAN AERT Wout
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
ROELANDTS Jürgen
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
WARLOP Jordi

The Art
MOSCON Gianni
BENOOT Tiesj
LAPORTE Christophe
ROOSEN Timo
ROELANDTS Jürgen
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
GASPAROTTO Enrico
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury
ENGER Sondre Holst

The Asian
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
STYBAR Zdenek
DEHAES Kenny *
TERPSTRA Niki
EDMONDSON Alexander
STANNARD Ian
GASPAROTTO Enrico
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
ENGER Sondre Holst

ThePirate81
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
VAN BAARLE Dylan
IMPEY Daryl
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno

Vladimir
FELLINE Fabio
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
DEBUSSCHERE Jens
LAPORTE Christophe
FORMOLO Davide *
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
NIZZOLO Giacomo
BIERMANS Jenthe
MOSER Moreno
WARLOP Jordi
ENGER Sondre Holst

Zaka_fan
MOSCON Gianni
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
LANGEVELD Sebastian
OFFREDO Yoann
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
STANNARD Ian
VANDENBERGH Stijn
PHINNEY Taylor
CAPIOT Amaury
ENGER Sondre Holst

You'll notice that Froschi's team only has 8 men; the team only came in during the small hours of this morning, and although I pointed it out to him when I eventually got up, he hasn't got back to me. His remaining budget is 66 points, so whoever he might have filled those spaces with probably won't make the difference between being a contender and an also-ran.
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24 Feb 2018 14:05

Rider Popularity

126 riders chosen, and exactly half of them are unique picks

24: VANMARCKE Sep (out of 39 teams, a fairly low take up for a most popular pick)
20: CAPIOT Amaury, DE BIE Sean, ROELANDTS Jürgen, STYBAR Zdenek, TERPSTRA Niki
19: NIZZOLO Giacomo
17: MOSER Moreno, VAN BAARLE Dylan
13: COQUARD Bryan, VANDENBERGH Stijn
12: ENGER Sondre Holst, STANNARD Ian
The eleven most popular picks, plus Stannard but not Enger, make up the Collective Wisdom team. Even with choosing the more expensive of those two joint 12th in the popularity charts, there is still a spare 328 points in that budget.

9: MOSCON Gianni
8: GASPAROTTO Enrico
7: OSS Daniel
6: HALVORSEN Kristoffer, HAUSSLER Heinrich, LANGEVELD Sebastian, VAN AERT Wout, VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
5: ALAPHILIPPE Julian, BRESCHEL Matti, CORT NIELSEN Magnus, DEVENYNS Dries, FELLINE Fabio
4: BIERMANS Jenthe, EDMONDSON Alexander, THWAITES Scott, VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
3: BENOOT Tiesj, BETTIOL Alberto, BRAMBILLA Gianluca, CAVENDISH Mark, DE VREESE Laurens, GANNA Filippo, GERTS Floris, OFFREDO Yoann, PHINNEY Taylor, ROOSEN Timo, VAN POPPEL Danny, VERMOTE Julien, WARLOP Jordi
2: ALLEGAERT Piet, BASKA Erik, BLYTHE Adam, BOECKMANS Kris, DEBUSSCHERE Jens, IMPEY Daryl, KENNAUGH Peter, KÖNIG Leopold, KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav, LAPORTE Christophe, MOLARD Rudy, NAESEN Lawrence, OWEN Logan, ROSA Diego, ROWE Luke, THEUNS Edward, VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael, VAN LERBERGHE Bert, VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter, VLIEGEN Loïc

Unique picks shown with asterisks above.

Popularity rankings
Number in brackets is unique picks on the team.
1 Russell23 196 ( 0 )
2 LosBrolin 182 ( 0 )
3 Shalgo 180 ( 1 )
3 ThePirate81 180 ( 0 )
5 Leadbelly 176 ( 1 )
6 Hakkie 166 ( 0 )
7 MellowVelo 163 ( 0 )
8 Laarsland 151 ( 1 )
8 Squire 151 ( 0 )
10 AmisVelo 150 ( 0 )
10 DFA123 150 ( 1 )
10 Madrazo 150 ( 0 )
13 GPBlanco 149 ( 3 )
13 RoteLaterne 149 ( 3 )
15 Blues_in_the_Bottle 138 ( 0 )
16 Zaka_fan 137 ( 0 )
17 Kazistuta 136 ( 0 )
18 Comodoro 134 ( 2 )
18 The_Asian 134 ( 1 )
20 TheArt 132 ( 0 )
21 Armchair 129 ( 1 )
21 Search 129 ( 2 )
23 DJW 124 ( 1 )
24 Nathanptz 119 ( 1 )
25 Bbass 118 ( 3 )
26 Fauniera 114 ( 1 )
27 NorthAmericanScum 113 ( 1 )
28 Joelsim 111 ( 0 )
28 Vladimir 111 ( 1 )
30 NairoQ 110 ( 1 )
31 Del1962 102 ( 2 )
32 Froschi 87 ( 2 )
33 So2017 84 ( 6 )
34 Chiron 83 ( 5 )
34 DJSprtsch 83 ( 5 )
36 Scrool07 76 ( 1 )
37 SemirS 75 ( 4 )
38 Salvarani 65 ( 3 )
39 Josedin 26 ( 9 )
CollectiveWisdom 215
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24 Feb 2018 14:16

38 in popularity ranking... lets see where I end up :D
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24 Feb 2018 14:24

Big spends

The defining choices for each team. 3000 points for 12 riders averages out at 250 points, so these are the riders costing more than twice that.

Gilbert: So 2017

Colbrelli and Stybar: Laarsland

Naesen and Vanmarcke: SemirS

Alaphilippe, Felline and Vanmarcke: Kazistuta
Alaphilippe, Vanmarcke and Stybar: Mellow Velo
Alaphilippe and Lutsenko: B'bass
Alaphilippe and Stybar: The Asian
Alaphilippe alone: Del1962

Degenkolb and Vanmarcke: Shalgo

Moscon and Benoot: The Art
Moscon, Felline and Stybar: Search
Moscon, Vanmarcke and Stybar: Los Brolin, Rote Laterne
Moscon and Vanmarcke: GPBlanco, Leadbelly
Moscon and Stybar: DJW, Squire, Zaka fan

Benoot and Stybar: Armchair Cyclist
Benoot alone: Scrool07

Felline, Theuns and Vanmarcke: Joelsim
Felline, Vanmarcke and Stybar: Vladimir
Felline and Vanmarcke: Comodoro

De Buyst and Vanmarcke: DJSprtsch

Theuns, Vanmarcke and Stybar: NairoQ

Vanmarcke and Stybar: Amis Velo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Hakkie, Madrazo, Russell23, ThePirate81
Vanmarcke alone: Chiron, DFA123, Fauniera, Froschi, NorthAmericanScum

Barbier: Josedin

Stybar: Nathanptz

Salvarani is the only manager not to have broken the 500 point barrier, but his most expensive pick, Cort Nielsen, comes close at 480pts.
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24 Feb 2018 15:22

In last year's races

If we post last year's results for the 20 races that will make up this game, the results will be:

1 So2017 2057
2 AmisVelo 1575
3 Madrazo 1559
4 Zaka_fan 1445
5 Hakkie 1404
6 DJW 1361
7 Russell23 1346
8 Laarsland 1327
9 Scrool07 1305
10 Armchair 1267
11 Blues_in_the_Bottle 1250
12 Nathanptz 1219
13 SemirS 1139
14 Froschi 1092
15 LosBrolin 1075
16 Leadbelly 1051
17 ThePirate81 1024
18 DFA123 1020
19 RoteLaterne 1001
20 Shalgo 989
21 NairoQ 983
22 MellowVelo 974
23 GPBlanco 968
24 Comodoro 939
25 Search 897
25 The_Asian 897
27 Salvarani 896
28 Vladimir 849
29 Squire 841
30 Bbass 791
31 TheArt 757
32 Chiron 642
33 NorthAmericanScum 641
34 Del1962 639
35 Joelsim 594
36 Fauniera 586
37 DJSprtsch 567
38 Kazistuta 542
39 Josedin 417
CollectiveWisdom 1180

And that table is why the So 2017 team needs explaining.
It came into existence partly because I soon became dis-enamoured of my team (very rapidly collated because Joelsim sent in his squad very early, and largely made by looking at popular picks in the season game and trying to identify those who perform in the classics); partly because I was a bit disappointed that unlike last year no-one had built a team around one of the big names of these events, and such teams are always interesting to track; partly because I had some cancelled work yesterday so I had time to do it; partly because having started compiling the "In last year's races" data, I was intrigued to see how far I could take that; and partly because as game compiler I had the opportunity to cheat and put in a second selection.

So the intention was to calculate the team with the highest possible total score from these races last year. I suspect that there might be a way of getting Excel to work that out for me (PM me if you could explain), but I only looked at those who generated at least 60% of their 2017 points in these 20 races (having checked that it was not possible to make an improvement by including Kwiatkowski or Van Avermaet) omitting those who had retired, joined teams that will give them few of these rides, or are carrying injuries. Within those stipulations, I think this is the highest 2017 score team possible (Hakkie: you are usually good at working out best poss permutations), so I submit it as a mathematical selection rather than my second bite at the cherry.
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24 Feb 2018 17:32

Armchair cyclist wrote:In last year's races



So the intention was to calculate the team with the highest possible total score from these races last year. I suspect that there might be a way of getting Excel to work that out for me (PM me if you could explain), but I only looked at those who generated at least 60% of their 2017 points in these 20 races (having checked that it was not possible to make an improvement by including Kwiatkowski or Van Avermaet) omitting those who had retired, joined teams that will give them few of these rides, or are carrying injuries. Within those stipulations, I think this is the highest 2017 score team possible (Hakkie: you are usually good at working out best poss permutations), so I submit it as a mathematical selection rather than my second bite at the cherry.


My team is more or less a So2016 :lol: I use exactly the same method to pick my team, I just use the results from 2 years ago. That's how I discovered Baska. I left out Haussler and Rowe though :p
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24 Feb 2018 19:10

Race 1: Omloop

Maybe not the start to the Classics season that many hoped for, and not a result that many in our game hoped for or expected, but two teams have reason to be very happy with their pick. Popular cheap pick Capiot has already paid back half his cost, and had anyone gone for Wisniowski they would have a rider in profit already, which is a valuable asset in this game.

VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael 1st, 180pts for Blues_in_the_Bottle and Nathanptz
VANMARCKE Sep 3rd, 92pts for 24 teams
GILBERT Philippe 5th, 70pts for So2017
THEUNS Edward 6th, 62pts for Joelsim and NairoQ
VAN LERBERGHE Bert 7th, 54 for Armchair Cyclist and Blues_in_the_Bottle
COLBRELLI Sonny 8th, 46 for Laarsland
THWAITES Scott 24pts for 4 teams
ROOSEN Timo 18 for 3
CAPIOT Amaury 16 for 20
STYBAR Zdenek 11 for 20
CORT NIELSEN Magnus 8 for 5
and 28 other finishers gaining 5 points each

1 Blues_in_the_Bottle 352 (Valgren, Vanmarcke, Van Lerberghe, Stybar and 3 fivers)
2 Nathanptz 274 (Valgren, Thwaites, Roosen, Capiot, Stybar and 5 fivers: 10 scorers in one race)
3 Joelsim 185 (Vanmarcke, Theuns, Capiot and 3 fivers)
4 NairoQ 177
5 Russell23 168
6 Hakkie 158
7 ThePirate81 142
8 MellowVelo 141
9 Comodoro 138
10 AmisVelo 135
11 GPBlanco 133
12 RoteLaterne 132
13 Madrazo 130
14 DFA123 125
15 Kazistuta 123
15 Shalgo 123
17 Fauniera 122
17 SemirS 122
19 LosBrolin 120
20 Vladimir 118
21 Chiron 117
21 Leadbelly 117
21 NorthAmericanScum 117
24 DJSprtsch 112
25 Armchair 108
26 Laarsland 100
27 Froschi 97
28 So2017 87
29 Salvarani 65
30 Zaka_fan 54
31 TheArt 51
32 Squire 50
33 Search 47
33 The_Asian 47
35 DJW 37
35 Scrool07 37
37 Bbass 36
38 Del1962 10
39 Josedin 5
CollectiveWisdom 146
Trudgin* 66

You'll notice Trudgin sneaking in with a late, asterisked entry, which has 5 unique picks, comes bottom of the popularity table, and can't be said to have sought unfair use of the Omloop result.

All the numbers, and even if I don't publish this link after each race, the spreadsheet file should remain here throughout.
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24 Feb 2018 19:28

I particularly like the teams of Amis Velo, Leadbelly and Russell23.
I'm interested to see if Benoot or Moscon is the better pick for this game. Benoot seems to be the safer pick as he always scores the same amout of points. Moscon's limit is the sky but it's also possible he can't get off the ground.
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Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game

24 Feb 2018 20:53

Armchair, thanks for the update.
Nowhere to go but down from my seat. I guess it is better to lucky than smart.
By the way, I had no knowledge of Capiot; so, I can’t claim that I missed him. Meanwhile he looks like a pretty good pick.
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25 Feb 2018 10:11

If he was only riding Ardeche and Drome this weekend, I would've quadroupled down on Valentin Madouas for these competitions this year.
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25 Feb 2018 15:54

Vermote and Vliegen so close at Kuurne for my team, that would have been big... just 200m off


Ligthart 4th though! Vermote 9th at the end still.

If only Cort Nielsen did not crash...
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25 Feb 2018 16:04

Also... Le Samyn wont count next week?

I think I see a lot of people that will have one or two riders in the provisional startlist at least. I think it should count :)
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25 Feb 2018 21:02

Race 2: Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne


The best sprinters are usually too expensive for the number of opportunities they get in these races, so there will usually be fewer points on a race that ends up as a large group gallop. Some sprinters are thought durable or adaptable enough to be worth a big spend, so they will get in the frame from time to time. Like an expensive unique pick in 3rd today, the highest placed selected rider.

Today's points
COLBRELLI Sonny 3rd, 72pts for Laarsland and Trudgin*
LIGTHART Pim 4th, 62pts for Salvarani
VERMOTE Julien 9th, 30pts for DFA123, NAS and Salvarani
NAESEN Oliver 22pts for SemirS
DEBUSSCHERE Jens 11pts for 2 teams
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav 9 for 2
VAN LERBERGHE Bert 8 for 2
BIERMANS Jenthe 5 for 4
DEHAES Kenny 5 for 1
KEISSE Iljo 5 for 1
NIZZOLO Giacomo 5 for 19

1 Salvarani 97 (Ligtard, Vermote and Vliegen)
Trudgin* 86 (Colbrelli, Kuznetsov and Vliegen)
2 Laarsland 82 (Colbrelli, Nizzolo and Biermans)
3 DFA123 46
4 NorthAmericanScum 35
5 Vladimir 30
6 SemirS 27
7 Blues_in_the_Bottle 13
8 Zaka_fan 9
9 Armchair 8
10= Lots of teams with (mainly) Nizzolo 5
28= Teams without Nizzolo 5

Standings

Today's top 6 all move up, the top three today enter the top ten, and Laarsland and Salvarani jump more than 20 places to do so.

1 Blues_in_the_Bottle 365
2 Nathanptz 274
3 Joelsim 190
4 Laarsland 182
4 NairoQ 182
6 Russell23 173
7 DFA123 171
8 Salvarani 162
9 Hakkie 158
10 NorthAmericanScum 152
11 SemirS 149
12 Vladimir 148
13 ThePirate81 147
14 MellowVelo 141
15 AmisVelo 140
16 Comodoro 138
17 RoteLaterne 137
18 GPBlanco 133
19 Madrazo 130
20 Kazistuta 128
20 Shalgo 128
22 LosBrolin 125
23 Leadbelly 122
23 Fauniera 122
25 Chiron 117
26 Armchair 116
27 DJSprtsch 112
28 Froschi 97
29 So2017 87
30 Zaka_fan 63
31 TheArt 56
32 Squire 55
33 Search 52
33 The_Asian 52
35 DJW 42
36 Bbass 41
37 Scrool07 37
38 Del1962 15
39 Josedin 10
CollectiveWisdom 151
Trudgin* 152
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25 Feb 2018 21:18

laarsland wrote:If he was only riding Ardeche and Drome this weekend, I would've quadroupled down on Valentin Madouas for these competitions this year.


Ardeche and Drome aren't in the game this year, so it would have been a strange criterion to apply. But he does look a canny pick in other games.

Salvarani wrote:Also... Le Samyn wont count next week?
I think I see a lot of people that will have one or two riders in the provisional startlist at least. I think it should count :)


I like the race, but it isn't in either.

There are too many 1.1 races that have historically only given tiny points to the game, but still needed a lot of spreadsheet work. I have settled on a rule on participation of 6 WT teams the previous year as the threshhold for races below 1.HC, so we have sometimes had one or two in the game, but with 5 in this weekend's French races, and only 3 in Le Samyn, it seems unlikely that I will include them next year either. Both the wrap-up post at the end of last year's competition, and the OP for this year's, included an invitation to anyone to plead the case of particular events, but there was no persuasion forthcoming.
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27 Feb 2018 10:03

Armchair cyclist wrote:
laarsland wrote:If he was only riding Ardeche and Drome this weekend, I would've quadroupled down on Valentin Madouas for these competitions this year.


Ardeche and Drome aren't in the game this year, so it would have been a strange criterion to apply. But he does look a canny pick in other games.


That's what you get for focusing on a spreadsheet including last year's scores instead of reading the revised rules :lol:
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27 Feb 2018 10:49

Have I accidentally put up such a sheet? Or are you looking at the final version of the 2017 game s'sheet?
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