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24 May 2018 01:18

It's pretty tight in the 15th-25th ranks at the moment so even small scores can help. Still a fair chunk off top 10 but might just be possible if Pinot and Pozzovivo switch positions and Sam Bennett wins in Rome
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24 May 2018 19:35

Stage 18 Prato Nevoso; a proper breakaway, and then a breakup of the pink jersey group

Purple points
As I mentioned a couple of stages ago, all the teams have someone for the break. But not many had one in this particular break.

SCHACHMANN Maximilian 70 1 team
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben 40 2 teams
CATTANEO Mattia 25 0 team
YATES Simon 18 6 teams
PFINGSTEN Christoph 15 0 team
MARCATO Marco 10 0 team
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael 7 0 team
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav 5 1 team
VAN EMDEN Jos 3 0 team
TURRIN Alex 2 0 team
BALLERINI Davide 1 1 team


1 Salvarani 70
2= BicycleBoy, Koronin 40
4= Yatesians 18
10 Vladimir 5
11 Trudgin 1

1 Bminchow 997
2 Yellow_Knight 922
3 Rote_Laterne 912
4 Scrool07 900
5 Mellow_Velo 824
6 LosBrolin 816
7 Tigerion 617
8 Ruvu75 577
9 Nathanptz 553
10 AmisVelo 533

Pink points

Lopez has moved above Dennis, with G Bennett, Woods and Aru also losing places. Bailerini moves up several spots in the maglia cyclamina category.

SCHACHMANN Maximilian 91 1 team
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben 40 2 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 25 25 teams
BALLERINI Davide 21 1 team
POELS Wout 12 1 team
YATES Simon 8 6 teams
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav 5 1 team
---
MODOLO Sacha -5 3 teams
FORMOLO Davide -6 20 teams
ARU Fabio -8 3 teams
WOODS Michael -12 17 teams
BENNETT George -15 7 teams
DENNIS Rohan -25 9 teams


1 Salvarani 85
2 Koronin 48
3 BicycleBoy 38
4 BikeRacer33 29
5 Minessa 27
6 Rote_Laterne 26
7 Leadbelly 25
8 Scrool07 24
9 Caruut 23
9 Googolplex 23
9 GPBlanco 23
9 Handbrake 23
9 LightBing 23
14 Vladimir 21
15 Fauniera 19
15 SemirS 19
15 Squire 19
18 Trudgin 18
19 Search 17
20 Laarsland 15
20 Shalgo 15
22 BluesInTheBottle 11
23 Yellow_Knight 6
24 Kazistuta 5
25 Hakkie2 2
26 Tigerion 0
27 Mellow_Velo -4
28 LosBrolin -7
29 PremierAndrew -12
30 Armchair_Cyclist -14
30 Drebola -14
32 Nathanptz -15
33 Comodoro -17
34 Gotland -19
35 Russell23 -20
35 Ruvu75 -20
37 Axl -25
37 Chiron -25
39 Del1962 -37
40 Carlo_Algatrensig -39
41 ThePirate81 -43
42 SafeBet -44
43 Bminchow -50
44 AmisVelo -60
Collective_Wisdom 4

Standings
Our leader has all three of Dennis, Bennett and Woods, the three main point losers of the day. The team in second avoids all of them, but has best GC point gainer, Lopez. But that still only removes just over half of the gap between the top two. Nathanptz moves up 2 places to be best of the rest, and Salvarani gets a 10 place boost from Schachmann's win.

1 Bminchow 2102
2 Rote_Laterne 2036
3 Scrool07 1992
4 Mellow_Velo 1908
5 LosBrolin 1861
6 Yellow_Knight 1796
7 Nathanptz 1209
8 Del1962 1202
9 ThePirate81 1194
10 Ruvu75 1182
11 Drebola 1163
12 AmisVelo 1128
13 SafeBet 1097
14 Googolplex 1094
15 BicycleBoy 1086
16 Carlo_Algatrensig 1032
17 Tigerion 1030
18 Salvarani 1020
19 Laarsland 1019
20 Kazistuta 1013
21 Squire 1009
22 Russell23 996
23 SemirS 992
24 Armchair_Cyclist 984
25 Fauniera 977
26 GPBlanco 966
27 Gotland 960
28 Handbrake 956
29 Vladimir 933
30 Axl 920
31 LightBing 901
32 BikeRacer33 880
33 Hakkie2 876
34 Leadbelly 860
35 Minessa 856
36 PremierAndrew 842
37 Trudgin 839
38 Comodoro 830
39 Chiron 828
40 BluesInTheBottle 699
41 Shalgo 650
42 Caruut 635
43 Search 629
44 Koronin 581
Collective_Wisdom 987

I haven't given a reminder of the spreadsheet at dropbox for a while.
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26 May 2018 00:10

Stage 19 Finestre, Sestriere and Jafferau, and something extraordinary.

Sorry it's so late: I've only just finished watching it, and still getting my breath back.

Purple points
As expected, the queen stage features many, but not all of, and not only, the favourites.

FROOME Chris 88 0 team
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 40 5 teams
PINOT Thibaut 25 24 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 15 25 teams
DUMOULIN Tom 10 1 team
REICHENBACH Sébastien 7 4 teams
FORMOLO Davide 5 20 teams
OOMEN Sam 3 0 team
KONRAD Patrick 2 0 team
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 1 1 team

1 Rote_Laterne 67 (Carapaz, Lopez, Reichenbach and Formolo)
2 Nathanptz 65 (Carapaz, Pinot)
3 Scrool07 60 (Carapaz, Lopez and Formolo)
4 Kazistuta 55 (Carapaz, Lopez)
5= Carlo_Algatrensig, Fauniera, Laarsland, SemirS, Squire 45
10= 6 teams with Lopez and Pinot 40

Standings
No-one is going to penetrate the Yatesians, largely because of all those pink jersey bonuses, but as after last weekend, Bminchow's lead looks vulnerable.
1 Bminchow 1002
2 Rote_Laterne 979
3 Scrool07 960
4 Yellow_Knight 922
5 Mellow_Velo 849
6 LosBrolin 841
7 Tigerion 642
8 Nathanptz 618
9 Ruvu75 597
10 ThePirate81 552

Pink points

Some big numbers: had anyone picked Froome, their team would have gained 383 points today.

CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 145 5 teams
PINOT Thibaut 110 24 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 66 25 teams
FORMOLO Davide 47 20 teams
BENNETT George 30 7 teams
REICHENBACH Sébastien 29 4 teams
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 26 1 team
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 20 2 teams
DUMOULIN Tom 18 1 team
HERMANS Ben 17 4 teams
---
SCHACHMANN Maximilian -15 1 team
BONNET William -15 3 teams
MAESTRI Mirco -15 1 team
VERVAEKE Louis -15 5 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban -20 36 teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto -26 3 teams
CICCONE Giulio -27 3 teams
ARU Fabio -50 3 teams
CHEREL Mikael -58 1 team
DENNIS Rohan -86 9 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico -104 1 team
O'CONNOR Ben -112 9 teams
YATES Simon -456 6 teams


1 Laarsland 235 (Pinot, Lopez, Formolo)
2 Squire 215 (Pinot, Lopez, Formolo, but Chaves)
3 Nathanptz 209 (Carapaz and Pinot, but Chaves and Betancur)
4 Axl 196
5 Kazistuta 191
6 Fauniera 188
6 SemirS 188
8 Leadbelly 182
9 LightBing 180
10 BikeRacer33 173
11 Minessa 161
12 Handbrake 156
13 Comodoro 154
14 GPBlanco 153
15 BicycleBoy 136
16 Hakkie2 123
17 Russell23 101
18 Del1962 92
19 Carlo_Algatrensig 90
19 Tigerion 90
21 Koronin 77
22 Trudgin 68
23 Vladimir 60
24 ThePirate81 48
25 BluesInTheBottle 28
26 SafeBet 9
27 Ruvu75 7
28 Search -4
28 Shalgo -4
30 PremierAndrew -8
31 AmisVelo -9
32 Gotland -16
33 Salvarani -31
34 Armchair_Cyclist -43
35 Caruut -54
36 Chiron -85
37 Drebola -140
38 Googolplex -185
39 Scrool07 -186
40 Rote_Laterne -189
41 LosBrolin -336
42 Yellow_Knight -442
43 Mellow_Velo -478
44 Bminchow -500
Collective_Wisdom 171

Standings
Yates had given his teams such an advantage before today that although they inevitably took the last 6 spots on the day's nett changes, five of the six remain the top five. But Nathanptz has overtaken at least one of them, breaking them up for the first time since stage 10.
Having regained his lead through Dennis on Tuesday, Bminchow lost not only through Yates today, but also through Dennis and Chaves, and although this was mitigated somewhat by Formolo and Bennett, a 500 point loss is not likely to maintain the lead. On the other hand, for Rote Laterne, Carapaz, Lopez, Formolo and Reichenbach did a lot to limit the damage done to his score by Yates and Chaves, and he retakes the lead. Only the fairly similar team of Scrool07 seems to be close enough to challenge. Los Brolin also manages positive movement within the top ten, while Laarsland enters that group, on the back of a 10 place rise matched by Squire: in the more compact group outside the top few teams, there are 13 teams moving up by 5 or more places, which normally only happens after the first mountain stage.


1 Rote_Laterne 1847
2 Scrool07 1806
3 Bminchow 1602
4 LosBrolin 1525
5 Mellow_Velo 1430
6 Nathanptz 1418
7 Yellow_Knight 1354
8 Del1962 1294
9 Laarsland 1254
10 ThePirate81 1242
11 Squire 1224
12 BicycleBoy 1222
13 Kazistuta 1204
14 Ruvu75 1189
15 SemirS 1180
16 Fauniera 1165
17 Carlo_Algatrensig 1122
18 Tigerion 1120
19 AmisVelo 1119
19 GPBlanco 1119
21 Axl 1116
22 Handbrake 1112
23 SafeBet 1106
24 Russell23 1097
25 LightBing 1081
26 BikeRacer33 1053
27 Leadbelly 1042
28 Drebola 1023
29 Minessa 1017
30 Hakkie2 999
31 Vladimir 993
32 Salvarani 989
33 Comodoro 984
34 Gotland 944
35 Armchair_Cyclist 941
36 Googolplex 909
37 Trudgin 907
38 PremierAndrew 834
39 Chiron 743
40 BluesInTheBottle 727
41 Koronin 658
42 Shalgo 646
43 Search 625
44 Caruut 581
Collective_Wisdom 1157

Of riders still going, the only difference between this team and 2nd place Scrool is Chaves and Reighenbach over Brambilla and Bonifazio. So unless Bonifazio sprints to a higher position in Rome than he has managed thus far, the fate of the game seems likely to depend on whether Reichenbach's support for Pinot tomorrow boosts his position further, or amounts to self sacrifice (although the GC time gaps around him suggest that his position might be unlikely to change much). But as today proves, anything could happen.
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26 May 2018 18:28

Stage 20 Final flings of the dice to Cervinia

Purple points
Mainly hoovered up by the break, but again few of us identified the correct breakaway riders.

NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 70 0 team
GESINK Robert 40 6 teams
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix 25 0 team
FROOME Chris 23 0 team
CICCONE Giulio 15 3 teams
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 10 8 teams
POELS Wout 7 1 team
FORMOLO Davide 3 20 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico 2 1 teams
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 1 5 teams


1 LightBing 50 (Gesink and Bramilla)
2 Squire, ThePirate81 43 (Gesink and Formolo)
4 Drebola, GPBlanco, PremierAndrew 40 (Gesink)
7 SafeBet 25 (Ciccone and Brambilla)
8 Vladimir 18 (Ciccone and Formolo)
9 Trudgin 15 (Ciccone)
10 Scrool07 14 (Bramilla, Formolo, Carapaz)


Standings
1 Bminchow 1005
2 Rote_Laterne 983
3 Scrool07 974
4 Yellow_Knight 929
5 Mellow_Velo 849
6 LosBrolin 841
7 Tigerion 642
8 Nathanptz 619
9 Ruvu75 600
10 ThePirate81 595

Yates has 564 points in this category, which is why no-one else is getting into the top 6. Bminchow should hold the lead unless Bonifazio can get top two tomorrow.

Pink points
Points gained mainly from overtaking Pinot ( and his teammates), Dennis and Yates
GESINK Robert 52 6 teams
CICCONE Giulio 52 3 teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 49 25 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico 25 1 team
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 25 1 team
POELS Wout 23 1 team
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 22 8 teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 20 3 teams
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 18 5 teams
FORMOLO Davide 18 20 teams
BENNETT George 15 7 teams
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 14 2 teams
---
HIRT Jan -13 2 teams
HERMANS Ben -14 4 teams
MONTAGUTI Matteo -15 1 team
SCHACHMANN Maximilian -16 1 team
REICHENBACH Sébastien -20 4 teams
PREIDLER Georg -22 1 team
DENNIS Rohan -26 9 teams
YATES Simon -29 6 teams
PINOT Thibaut -246 24 teams
---
HERMANS Ben -14 4
MONTAGUTI Matteo -15 1
SCHACHMANN Maximilian -16 1
REICHENBACH Sébastien -20 4
PREIDLER Georg -22 1
DENNIS Rohan -26 9
YATES Simon -29 6
PINOT Thibaut -246 24

Essentially, a bad day if you have Pinot, ok if you don't.

1 Vladimir 151 (Ciccone, Lopez, Betancur, Formolo and Henao)
2 Koronin 82
3 Hakkie2 80
4 PremierAndrew 79
5 Scrool07 78
6 Drebola 77
7 Googolplex 72
8 Caruut 69
9 Kazistuta 66
10 BluesInTheBottle 65
11 Carlo_Algatrensig 50
12 Armchair_Cyclist 47
12 Search 47
12 Shalgo 47
15 Ruvu75 43
16 Rote_Laterne 34
17 AmisVelo 23
18 Chiron 17
19 Yellow_Knight 0
20 Bminchow -20
21 LightBing -125
22 Squire -129
23 GPBlanco -147
24 Trudgin -149
25 Laarsland -157
26 Fauniera -181
26 SemirS -181
28 SafeBet -194
29 Handbrake -199
30 ThePirate81 -200
31 Nathanptz -206
32 Minessa -212
33 Leadbelly -228
34 BikeRacer33 -234
35 Comodoro -240
35 Gotland -240
37 Axl -243
37 BicycleBoy -243
39 Tigerion -248
40 Russell23 -249
41 Del1962 -262
41 LosBrolin -262
43 Salvarani -264
44 Mellow_Velo -273
Collective_Wisdom -149

Standings with, presumably, only the sprinters sorting tomorrow's stage points to go.

A late coup by Scrool07, based on the double whammy of Brambilla's breakaway yielding both stage points and a 4 place GC rise and Reichenbach being placed on nursing duties with Pinot, puts him in the lead at this late stage. He is only one of the teams near the top with any sprinter, so the engraver is poised. Long term leader Bminchow has slumped to 300 points off the pace, yet is still poised to take a podium.

Two of the Yatesians have Pinot: a few days ago that looked like an excellent combination, but in 2 days that has collapsed. They drop to 6th and 10th, and Yellow Knight recovers somewhat from yesterday's 7th to 4th. Nathanptz, suffering with Pinot, is no longer the top non-Yatesian: that honour falls to Kazistuta, and a team founded on the two white jersey contestants. He, Ruvu75 and Carlo Algatrensig all storm the top ten with jumps of 7 or 8 places, but there are no less than five teams that move up by more, Vladimir topping the lot with a 20 place leap.

1 Scrool07 1884
2 Rote_Laterne 1881
3 Bminchow 1582
4 Yellow_Knight 1354
5 Kazistuta 1270
6 LosBrolin 1263
7 Ruvu75 1232
8 Nathanptz 1212
9 Carlo_Algatrensig 1172
10 Mellow_Velo 1157
11 Vladimir 1144
12 AmisVelo 1142
13 Drebola 1100
14 Laarsland 1097
15 Squire 1095
16 Hakkie2 1079
17 ThePirate81 1042
18 Del1962 1032
19 SemirS 999
20 Armchair_Cyclist 988
21 Fauniera 984
22 Googolplex 981
23 BicycleBoy 979
24 GPBlanco 972
25 LightBing 956
26 Handbrake 913
26 PremierAndrew 913
28 SafeBet 912
29 Axl 873
30 Tigerion 872
31 Russell23 848
32 BikeRacer33 819
33 Leadbelly 814
34 Minessa 805
35 BluesInTheBottle 792
36 Chiron 760
37 Trudgin 758
38 Comodoro 744
39 Koronin 740
40 Salvarani 725
41 Gotland 704
42 Shalgo 693
43 Search 672
44 Caruut 650
Collective_Wisdom 1008

Tomorrow is about sprinter points. Viviani is unselected, but 2 teams have Sam Bennett (Tigerion and Yellow Knight), Modolo is on 3 teams (including Kazistuta), Danny Van Poppel is in the Collective Wisdom team, with 14 selections (incl Kazistuta and Ruvu) and Bonifazio on 5 teams, including Scrool and Nathanptz).
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26 May 2018 21:30

I can't believe that my best placed rider in the GC will likely be Rohan Dennis. Total failure.
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27 May 2018 09:30

A 94 pt insult added to injury for the 24 teams with Pinot, before the last stage even starts, is neutral as far as the top 2 are concerned (Brambilla gains 4 pts on GC; Reichenbach gains 2 on GC and Chaves gains 2 in KoM classification), but does bring two new teams into the putative top ten: Amis Velo and Vladimir in place of Nathanptz and Mellow Velo.
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27 May 2018 20:14

Stage 21 Sprinters and their teams only in Rome

Purple points which is more or less all there is today.

BENNETT Sam 70 2 teams
VIVIANI Elia 40 0 team
DRUCKER Jempy 25 0 team
PLANCKAERT Baptiste 15 0 team
BELLETTI Manuel 10 0 team
MODOLO Sacha 7 3 teams
BONIFAZIO Niccolo 5 5 teams
VENTURINI Clément 3 0 team
SIMION Paolo 2 0 team
SABATINI Fabio 1 0 team

1 Tigerion 75
2 Yellow_Knight 70
3= Carlo_Algatrensig, Chiron, Kazistuta 7
6= Nathanptz, Scrool07, Search, Vladimir 5

and that's it

Final purple standings
Yellow Knight get close in the end, but Bminchow led this from since stage 2.
1 Bminchow 1005
2 Yellow_Knight 999
3 Rote_Laterne 983
4 Scrool07 979
5 Mellow_Velo 849
6 LosBrolin 841
7 Tigerion 717
8 Nathanptz 624
9 Ruvu75 600
10 ThePirate81 595
11 Kazistuta 549
12 Drebola 547
13 AmisVelo 541
14 Del1962 534
15 SafeBet 504
16 Salvarani 496
17 Chiron 491
18 Carlo_Algatrensig 486
19 GPBlanco 454
20 Squire 447
21 Laarsland 433
22 Armchair_Cyclist 426
23 Handbrake 421
24 Fauniera 407
24 SemirS 407
26 Hakkie2 396
27 Vladimir 389
28 Comodoro 381
29 BicycleBoy 378
30 LightBing 373
31 Googolplex 372
32 Gotland 371
33 Axl 358
33 Russell23 358
35 PremierAndrew 353
36 BikeRacer33 314
36 Leadbelly 314
36 Minessa 314
39 Shalgo 310
40 Search 296
41 BluesInTheBottle 279
42 Trudgin 239
43 Koronin 214
44 Caruut 202
Collective_Wisdom 463

Pink points
The withdrawal of Pinot cost his teams 94 points, and other riders pick up a small number of points through moving up or down the GC (those positioned 17th to 51st yesterday) or in the KoM classification. Modolo also moves a couple of places in the points classification. Add that to our sprinters' points, and the gains and losses today are:

1 Yellow_Knight 75
2 Carlo_Algatrensig 24
2 Kazistuta 24
4 Chiron 21
5 Armchair_Cyclist 16
6 Drebola 14
7 AmisVelo 12
7 PremierAndrew 12
7 Ruvu75 12
10 Koronin 10
11 Bminchow 9
11 Scrool07 9
13 Vladimir 8
14 Search 7
15 Caruut 6
16 Rote_Laterne 4
17 Googolplex 3
18 BluesInTheBottle 2
18 Hakkie2 2
18 Shalgo 2
21 Tigerion -17
22 Del1962 -78
23 SafeBet -79
24 Nathanptz -80
24 ThePirate81 -80
26 LightBing -86
27 Comodoro -87
27 Gotland -87
29 Axl -88
29 BicycleBoy -88
29 Salvarani -88
32 BikeRacer33 -89
32 Leadbelly -89
32 Russell23 -89
35 GPBlanco -90
35 Laarsland -90
35 Squire -90
38 Mellow_Velo -91
38 Minessa -91
38 SemirS -91
41 Fauniera -92
41 Handbrake -92
43 Trudgin -93
44 LosBrolin -95
Collective_Wisdom -74

And so we get to
Final standings

Bonifazio added a little more gloss to Scrool07's win, but 8 points is still very close. Nobody picked Froome, and the only team with Dumoulin (Bicycle Boy) is very much mid-table. The Simon Yates teams fill the top 4, and also 8th and 14th (those last 2 having lost out on Pinot). Kazistuta, who shares with the top two teams a GC points haul based on the two South American white jersey contenders, is best of the rest, and is followed by Ruvu75, whose first entry into one of the GT games (I think) saw the selection of the team that would be the Collective Wisdom team if I had not compiled that team differently this time around. Amis Velo and Vladimir replace Pinot teams in the top ten at the last moment, and Premier Andrew, Blues in the Bottle, and Koronin share the final mention as the biggest jumpers of the day, each passing 5 teams.

1 Scrool07 1893
2 Rote_Laterne 1885
3 Bminchow 1591
4 Yellow_Knight 1429
5 Kazistuta 1294
6 Ruvu75 1244
7 Carlo_Algatrensig 1196
8 LosBrolin 1168
9 AmisVelo 1154
10 Vladimir 1152
11 Nathanptz 1132
12 Drebola 1114
13 Hakkie2 1081
14 Mellow_Velo 1066
15 Laarsland 1007
16 Squire 1005
17 Armchair_Cyclist 1004
18 Googolplex 984
19 ThePirate81 962
20 Del1962 954
21 PremierAndrew 925
22 SemirS 908
23 Fauniera 892
24 BicycleBoy 891
25 GPBlanco 882
26 LightBing 870
27 Tigerion 855
28 SafeBet 833
29 Handbrake 821
30 BluesInTheBottle 794
31 Axl 785
32 Chiron 781
33 Russell23 759
34 Koronin 750
35 BikeRacer33 730
36 Leadbelly 725
37 Minessa 714
38 Shalgo 695
39 Search 679
40 Trudgin 665
41 Comodoro 657
42 Caruut 656
43 Salvarani 637
44 Gotland 617
Collective_Wisdom 934

Congratulations to Scrool07, commiserations to Rote Laterne who ran him so close and to Bminchow, who led for so long, and thanks to all who participated, to CQ for the system, to PCS who had results up reasonably quickly and in a consistent and useable format, and to the riders who unwittingly delighted or deflated us.

See you in about 6 weeks for the Tour (and maybe tomorrow for some number crunching).
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27 May 2018 22:38

I'm more surprised I didn't finish last where I had been the entire race until the last couple of days.
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28 May 2018 08:00

Koronin wrote:I'm more surprised I didn't finish last where I had been the entire race until the last couple of days.


More than half the teams had spent more than a third of their budget on Pinot, who lost c350 points in the last 2 days. Some of those were inevitably less than 350 points above you. And you beat 3 non-Pinot teams too.

Better luck in the TdF game: you get a bigger budget for that one.
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28 May 2018 09:26

I take pride in being the first team without Yates. Must admit I didn't even consider him.
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29 May 2018 00:23

Will I had a Michelton-Scott of a contest. A couple of stage wins and a complete and utter imploding of GC contenders.
Thanks for the organisation and updates Armchair, much appreciated
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29 May 2018 03:00

Armchair cyclist wrote:
Koronin wrote:I'm more surprised I didn't finish last where I had been the entire race until the last couple of days.


More than half the teams had spent more than a third of their budget on Pinot, who lost c350 points in the last 2 days. Some of those were inevitably less than 350 points above you. And you beat 3 non-Pinot teams too.

Better luck in the TdF game: you get a bigger budget for that one.



True although I had some not very good picks in Meintjes, Fernandez and Visconti who I expected more out of. Actually thought Visconti could be good for some stage/mountain points similar with Fernandez but breaks were almost useless in this GT.

At least Lopez did finally end up with something good.

Not sure I'll do much better in the TdF game if I can find a way to put my boy on that team. LOL
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30 May 2018 14:03

Some numbers, rather later than I had expected to do them.

Purple points top ten in stages and pink jersey wearer.
1 YATES Simon 564 6 teams
2 BENNETT Sam 365 2 teams
3 VIVIANI Elia 360 0 team
4 DUMOULIN Tom 204 1 team
5 FROOME Chris 192 0 team
6 DENNIS Rohan 184 9 teams
7 CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 136 5 teams
8 PINOT Thibaut 134 24 teams
9 BATTAGLIN Enrico 126 0 team
10 CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 101 36 teams
11 VAN POPPEL Danny 100 14 teams
12 BONIFAZIO Niccolo 95 5 teams
13 FORMOLO Davide 93 20 teams
14 SCHACHMANN Maximilian 91 1 team
15 MODOLO Sacha 90 3 teams
16 POZZOVIVO Domenico 89 1 team
17 LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 79 25 teams
18 WELLENS Tim 77 0 team
19 NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 70 0 team
19 MOHORIC Matej 70 1 team
21 MARECZKO Jakub 62 2 teams
no other higher than 43 pts

Pink points the ones that really matter, all the points including GC and other classifications

1 FROOME Chris 762 0 team
2 YATES Simon 661 6 teams
3 DUMOULIN Tom 587 1 team
4 VIVIANI Elia 445 0 team
5 BENNETT Sam 420 2 teams
6 CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 411 5 teams
7 LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 394 25 teams
8 POZZOVIVO Domenico 331 1 team
9 DENNIS Rohan 268 9 teams
10 BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 228 1 team
10 FORMOLO Davide 228 20 teams
12 KONRAD Patrick 208 0 team
13 BENNETT George 185 7 teams
14 NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 163 0 team
15 BATTAGLIN Enrico 162 0 team
16 OOMEN Sam 154 0 team
17 GENIEZ Alexandre 140 0 team
18 GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel 139 0 team
19 PINOT Thibaut 134 24 teams
20 SCHACHMANN Maximilian 133 1 team
21 POELS Wout 124 1 team
22 CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 121 36 teams
23 VAN POPPEL Danny 120 14 teams
23 MODOLO Sacha 120 3 teams
25 MOHORIC Matej 114 1 team
26 WOODS Michael 113 17 teams
26 BONIFAZIO Niccolo 113 5 teams
28 HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 104 2 teams
29 GESINK Robert 98 6 teams
30 BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 90 3 teams

%age return

1 CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 88.8 5 teams
2 YATES Simon 81.6 6 teams
3 BATTAGLIN Enrico 68.4 0 team
4 MORABITO Steve 65.2 4 teams
5 SAGIV Guy 62.5 0 team
6 DENZ Nico 61.8 0 team
7 MONTAGUTI Matteo 61.0 1 team
8 GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel 60.7 0 team
9 DIDIER Laurent 60.0 1 team
10 BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 58.9 1 team
11 BEWLEY Sam 57.7 0 team
12 BENNETT Sam 56.9 2 teams
13 REICHENBACH Sébastien 56.0 4 teams
14 FORMOLO Davide 54.3 20 teams
15 PREIDLER Georg 52.9 1 team
16 NIBALI Antonio 46.9 1 team
17 DENNIS Rohan 46.1 9 teams
18 MORI Manuele 45.5 0 team
19 KING Benjamin 44.9 0 team
20 BONIFAZIO Niccolo 43.8 5 teams
21 KONRAD Patrick 42.3 0 team
22 TEN DAM Laurens 42.0 0 team
23 PFINGSTEN Christoph 41.1 0 team
24 BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 40.7 3 teams
25 DUPONT Hubert 40.5 2 teams

Impeccable picks
MORABITO Steve
MONTAGUTI Matteo
PFINGSTEN Christoph
TEN DAM Laurens
PREIDLER Georg
DENZ Nico
REICHENBACH Sébastien
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel
BATTAGLIN Enrico
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
BENNETT Sam
YATES Simon
FROOME Chris

Best possible team I don't have a good track record for getting this right, so I am happy to be corrected.

YATES Simon
BENNETT Sam
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
FORMOLO Davide
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
BATTAGLIN Enrico
GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel
REICHENBACH Sébastien
for 2319 points and a spend of 3409, and a popularity score of just 38, even more unpopular than Trudgin's selection.

The rest of the numbers (and probably some very inefficient coding) here.
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