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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

08 Jan 2019 19:43

A few interesting team walkthroughs here recently. Fascinating read!

Jakob747 wrote:CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever - 207 (4 teams) – Caicedo is somewhat a personal favorite, whom I have followed for years and seen racing live several times here in Colombia. He is the reigning Vuelta Colombia winner - Who also won the incredible hard stage-race Clásica Ciudad de Soacha twice in a row, (2016 and 2015)... In Soacha, he went solo on the HC climb San Miguel increased all the way up and held his advantage on Romeral to finish off a fantastic performance. Carapaz was 4th that day finishing well over 2 minutes behind Caicedo. --- Paulo Caicedo who was his trainer between 2013 and 2017 and who also trained Carapaz for 3 years btw, mentioned in an article in El Universo that Caicedo is even stronger than Richard and described him as an outstanding (altitude climber) who also defends himself well against the clock! Now that sounds well and all - and I agree he is a fantastic climber especially at altitude in Colombia, but in Tour of Croatia 2017, Caicedo attacked on the climb up to (SV. Jure) and well he didn't look remotely amazing there, he hardly got a gap and ended the day on an unspectacular 24th place. Its one thing racing at altitude in South America, but on uneven roads and ****** goat-tracks in Europe with much higher speeds leading into the climbs well that's a whole other ball-game. Still worth a punt at that ¨price¨ though.

That's a lot of cool background info! Caicedo will certainly be fun to follow. His team is not the one I'd trust the most to refine his talent, but from what you say he could actually be great if everything comes together.

Jakob747 wrote:PADUN Mark - 191 (30 teams)

He's one of the riders I didn't pick that I'm most scared of. He looked massively strong a few times last year. I'll have to trust my gut feeling that his lack of consistency will still hamper him somewhat.

SafeBet wrote:This is my third year participating in this game.
For the past 2 seasons my uninspired strategy was getting lots of consistent guys who had a relatively good chance of doubling their previous CQ score. I believe that’s a great strategy for an average-to-good team (I finished between the 20th and the 40th position in both years) but gives you zero chances of winning the whole thing.

This year I changed my strategy a bit, especially for my top picks. I went for riders who can win and win big. Most of them could score less than last year (which was a nightmare for me when picking riders in the past) but they can also trash their previous scores if all stars align.

Was looking forward to reading your thoughts on the game, since you said you did a lot of research this year. Your strategy for this edition is somewhat along the lines of my own strategy. Only I didn't really go for big race winners, but rather riders who can rack up the points in lots of races throughout the season if they're consistent, but who might also turn out quite average. While a player like skidmark on the other hand is back to his tried and tested best with lots of 'safe' picks. It's just that he's better at it than everyone else, so his 'consistent' team might actually win the whole thing.

SafeBet wrote:MCNULTY Brandon (273) - 7
I knew this would be a rare pick, but whenever I watched this guy race last year he was sensational. Admittedly, this could be the pick that ruins my game but I felt I needed to be bold to have a shot. It was a coin toss between him and Gaudu, and I dropped the frenchman just a couple of hours before sending my team in. Why did I do that? I feel like Gaudu is a great talent (I had him last year) but he will go through some more growing pains and the schedule won’t help him. McNulty on the other hand will ride a similar schedule to last year in a very protected environment and with zero pressure.

McNulty is someone I also considered very seriously but didn't pick in the end. I don't think he'll ruin the game for you at all, and he could be sensational. I guess what put me off him was that I can't really be sure what races Rally will and won't do, and that he might waste away in some low-scoring U23 races in late summer instead of riding the American 2.HC races.

SafeBet wrote:TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres (111) - 1
Can’t believe this is my unique pick, which is actually my first unique pick ever. I like the move to Team Illuminate: they race a ton of .1 asian races and don’t have any other leader. I mean Jorge Castiblanco and Martin Laas scored over 100 points last year on that team. Torres will kill it at that level, unless there’s something I don’t know about his health.

His health is actually a big question mark. I don't quite remember what was wrong with him, but he didn't expect to be ready at the start of this season, which always makes me worried. Your point about Illuminate's schedule is a great one though. I automatically assumed they were one of the 'normal' American conti teams who mainly stayed in North America, but it seems you're absolutely right. So if he recovers, Torres can actually be a fantastic unique pick.

SafeBet wrote:SENNI Manuel (34) - 14
I’ve got kind of a fetish for reaching precisely 7500 points and he was the rider I liked the most in that price range anyway. Broke a leg during last year’s Giro and his season was gone at that point, He’s out of contract at the end of the year, which is a bonus considering his last year at BMC.

Haha, I've kind of suffered a bit from the same 'fetish', but managed to break free from it this year. I don't think Senni is very inspiring. I'd have preferred Stallaert at 34 points. There are also a couple of good ones at 33 if you could've tolerated 7499. ;)

I see you're also one of those who like Padun very much. I'm getting worried...

MADRAZO wrote:Thats a very solid team and if Froome delivers as expected it should do quite well.

Van Staeyen that you put as obvious could be a coup.

I agree with you that the Froome team looks strong.

With Van Staeyen, there are enough Belgian and Dutch one-day races that a team like Roompot could satisfy four sprinters. I think they have three sprinters. Van Staeyen is even more attractive now that the third one, Boy Van Poppel, broke his collarbone which puts the Dutchman a bit behind in preparation for the new season.
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08 Jan 2019 19:58

Looked at the startlist for TDU. 11 riders from my team gonna race lol
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08 Jan 2019 19:59

So, Wout van Aert's full season schedule:

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
Strade Bianche
Milano-Sanremo
E3 BinckBank Classic
Gent-Wevelgem
Ronde van Vlaanderen
Paris-Roubaix
Amstel Gold Race
Criterium du Dauphiné
Belgian national championships
BinckBank Tour
Cyclassics Hamburg

Would those of you who picked him have done it if you knew this?
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08 Jan 2019 20:19

Squire wrote:So, Wout van Aert's full season schedule:

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
Strade Bianche
Milano-Sanremo
E3 BinckBank Classic
Gent-Wevelgem
Ronde van Vlaanderen
Paris-Roubaix
Amstel Gold Race
Criterium du Dauphiné
Belgian national championships
BinckBank Tour
Cyclassics Hamburg

Would those of you who picked him have done it if you knew this?


Interesting. He really needs to be on top of his game. No smaller races to gain easy points but potential for a lot of points if he hits the same level as last year.

The Worlds is a possible addition, I would guess.
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08 Jan 2019 21:02

Squire wrote:So, Wout van Aert's full season schedule:

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
Strade Bianche
Milano-Sanremo
E3 BinckBank Classic
Gent-Wevelgem
Ronde van Vlaanderen
Paris-Roubaix
Amstel Gold Race
Criterium du Dauphiné
Belgian national championships
BinckBank Tour
Cyclassics Hamburg

Would those of you who picked him have done it if you knew this?

I was hoping for more tbh
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08 Jan 2019 21:10

16 points for Nicholas Schultz. I'll take that and go on.
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08 Jan 2019 21:28

I have had one rider in one day's competition and he already has 100% profit and I'm still looking around at other teams, picks and analysis thinking I could be doing so much better. This game is nuts.
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08 Jan 2019 21:58

Yeah, well, not happy with Wout's schedule.
He'll need to be absolutely phenomenal in those few races to score the points I was hoping for.
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

08 Jan 2019 23:38

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I made the GIF above to summarize why I picked Alberto Dainese already this year, despite him only being 20 years of age. Hell of a sprinter, we gonna hear a lot about him in the years to come.

My question is, does SEG ride a CQ points-friendy calender at continental level? Is it more attractive sprinting wise than in 2017 - Where Jakobsen scored 117 points?

SEG also signed Kaden Groves for 2019 (whom I actually rate as well) so maybe they will divide the sprints opportunities between them, to keep both relatively content.

Anyway, not sure about Dainese this year, but potentially it could be valid. That's why I picked him anyway - because of potential!
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 04:16

Okay here's part 2 so I can stop talking about my own team and start analyzing others'/participating in the game. Reflections and comments encouraged on any of the riders, as always.

PLANCKAERT Baptiste (27 teams, 206 points) – I think of him like a supercharged Marko Kump. He had a thousand point season at CT level, moved to WT, and in his two years with Katusha, he did fine in .HC and .1 races – the only points he got from WT races of 2017 and 2018 were from some top 10s at the Giro this year – the bulk of his 526 points in the last two years were from the smaller races. Going back to a calendar of mostly that, and being a top producer, should really boost his score. I don’t expect 1000 points again, but 500-700 would be great.

HALVORSEN Kristoffer (35 teams, 162 points) – he had some ups and downs in his first year, and I’m a bit concerned that there weren’t any really memorable highs. But he’s still a really talented sprinter on a team that doesn’t really have many (although, not really a support network for sprinters either). I guess I was swayed by a lot of sprinters this year – they are great because they can score at most races throughout the year, and can accumulate points so it’s less nerve-wracking than picking, say, a cobbles specialist.

BARBIER Rudy (36 teams, 90 points) – I’ve had my eye on him for a few years as I love consistent riders who show up to almost every race. The problem being that usually their points are too high to take them (like Carlos Barbero, for example, who I've never picked but wanted to, or Valverde except last year). So taking Barbier was mostly a no-brainer; the ‘mostly’ being because I’m not quite sure why he had such an off year of only 90 points. There wasn’t an obvious injury and I didn’t see anything mentioned in interviews. Anyway, ICA wants to build a profile in France and have a French sprinter, so it seems like a good fit.

O’CONNOR Ben (37 teams, 219 points) – He has Oomen-like consistency at a bit lower of a level; improve a few of his placings (18th in TDU, 11th in Catalunya, 7th in Alps) and get him to finish a GT instead of crashing out while in the top 15, and you’ve got a worthwhile pick for the game.

BAUHAUS Phil (37 teams, 196 points) – the last rider I added to my team. I’ve had him like twice before and was hesitant to take him again, and the last spot was between him, Padun, and I believe someone more left field like Emils Liepins (who I ended up taking for the youth game). I was toggling between them to see if I could find something that tipped it for me and was leaning towards Padun when I saw the result from Abu Dhabi stage 3 last year. Bauhaus beat, in order: Kittel, Ackermann, Viviani, Ewan, Griepel, Barbier, Kristoff, Van Poppel, Guardini, McLay, Bonifazio, Halvorsen. Aside from being half my CQ team, that’s a lot of damn good sprinters to beat. That sealed it for me, and also remembering his impressive stage at the Dauphine in 2017. If he can do that with consistency (and despite being wary of Bahrain, their only real sprinter is Colbrelli who should do complementary races), his score should go way up.

KAMNA Lennard (39 teams, 37 points) – Frig, I dunno. He seems to be over his motivational issues and still has an engine that helped get a Worlds TTT and 2nd in the U23 RR, which has tricked me into thinking he’s got 1-day potential too. Sunweb’s kind of the wrong team on which to not be top dog, though.

ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin - (46 teams, 61 points) – now that he’s out of the CQ sinkhole that is UAE and into the hopefully-former-CQ sinkhole that is Cofidis, sure why not? My spreadsheet notes literally say “If I need someone at this price, for sure”, and then when I needed ten more riders, I definitely did need him (and McLay, and Kamna, Van Asbroeck, Bauhaus, Marini, etc).

BOUHANNI Nacer (51 teams, 441 points) – He had between 1000-1200 for the previous five years, so he was consistently great if a bit erratic/fragile. My hope is he’s over the hump with Vasseur and can do his thing.

SWIFT Ben (54 teams, 72 points) – for obvious reasons, and has a much higher ceiling than the similarly-priced hard-luck Sky Brit Rowe.

THEUNS Edward (61 teams, 191 points) – He was fine with Trek, didn’t seem to work out with Sunweb, and they both seemed to know it. Seems like a healthy split.

FELLINE Fabio (63 teams, 257 points) – Didn’t I pick him the very first year of this game? I’ve always liked this guy, it’s been a shame to see him struggle the last few years. He seems to be past the toxoplasmosis and I’m convinced his ceiling in a solid year is above 1000 points. His insanely consistent Vuelta of a few years ago where he finished top 5 in pretty much every kind of stage is exactly what he's capable of at his best.

ZAKARIN Ilnur (69 teams, 473) – His natural level is quite a bit higher than his point total of 2018, I’m convinced he’ll do better.

Quick hits: NIBALI (87 teams), GAVIRIA (83 teams), ARU (96 teams), KITTEL (99 teams), CHAVES (90 teams), MEINTJES (79 teams), CAVENDISH (80 teams), BETTIOL (92 teams), BOOM (67 teams), EVENEPOEL (89 teams), VAKOC (74 teams)

You may or may not agree that these picks will all do much better than last year, but I think the rationale to pick each of them is self-evident. Chaves is the only one amongst this group I’m really pulling for on a personal level because the guy’s so damn likable (well, and Vakoc, but I don’t know much about him, I just hope he makes it back from such an injury), but I like Nibali fine and have a love/hate with Cav that’s swung back to pulling for him a bit cuz the last few years have been tough. Gaviria won the opening stage of his first TdF, so it’s not like he’s lacking class, and he could definitely win MSR and place in the Worlds aside from the rumored 2 GTs he's doing. So, I dunno, even though UAE is a step down, and even if he crashes sometimes, his potential is sky high. Evenepoel I’m more curious than anything as a rider of his like is unprecedented jumping to that level. Vakoc… I think the odds are that he doesn’t get much more than finishing points. It’s funny to reflect on why I picked him over, say Guldhammer, who cost 12 points and I also had doubts about due to his breaking his back a little over a year ago. I think the two reasons really come down to 1) he had a blog that seems optimistic enough to make me think 'maybe...' (but, if you read between the lines, very cautiously optimistic) and 2) QuickStep can do anything. So, we will see!

Can’t wait to see them all in action, the races are coming so soon!!
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 04:45

In reply to Jakob:

EWAN Caleb - 776 (18 teams) – A few years ago Caleb Ewan was one of the most exciting cycling prospects in the world. Now approaching his mid-twenties, his natural progression curve should hopefully rise even further, allowing him to stamp his authority among the best of the best. I really look forward to seeing how Ewan fares within the renovated Lotto sprint set-up for the new season. I sense a good match. He's got solid support in terms of both firepower (controlling the breakaways) and experienced guys who can deliver him to the line.


I very seriously considered Ewan as well; even though he hasn't really scored higher than last year, his CQ potential was definitely stifled by being left out of the GTs, and also the leadout at Lotto is superior. What do you think is his realistic point total this year? His ceiling? I'd say ~1000-1100 is realistic, ~1400 ceiling? If I didn't feel better about other riders, I'd definitely take him (although I guess that sentence could apply to literally anyone haha)

VAN DER POEL Mathieu - 539 (20 teams) – I swear to god Mathieu Van der Poel posses Saganesque potential/talent as a bike rider. A jack of all trades. Limited race days? Sparse opportunities if he fails to deliver on his so-far pretty ambitious 2019 road schedule? I guess so. However, I never really consider leaving him out my CQ squad anyway though - the man is a beast and if nothing else, it should be fun following him all spring in the first serious road campaign of his career.


I compared him to Sagan a few pages ago, so this is music to my ears as a fellow VdP owner. But yeah, I completely resonate with your general sentiment of "well I guess there are reasons to doubt but goddamn he's on the road in the big races and it's gonna be fun"... I'm so methodical in picking my team in this game that it was fun to just get excited about a rider and say to hell with it.

ARU Fabio - 400 (96 teams) – Last year he cost me every chance of success in the Main-Game thanks to his abysmal performances all year! I'm still pissed about that and didn't really want to include him in my squad this season, to be honest. Although chances of him redeeming himself and acting as some sort of "Grand-Tour" contender probably are slim, I didn't quite have the courage to leave him out of my team. I expect a somewhat better Aru in 2019, but that's also about it really. Not too enthusiastic on his behalf!


It's funny how quick the rider cycle of appreciation goes - in Aru's first two years, he was unproven but mega-talented, had ugly style and pulled crazy faces, attacked frequently and just had this youthful energy that was pretty exciting... and then he won a GT in the most amazing fashion, breaking a seemingly inevitable lock on the last day with some daring and tactics. And now three years later he's totally an uninteresting and uninspiring prospect. Hell, even when he took the yellow jersey from Froome that was the most exciting part of that whole Tour. I remember when Andy Schleck killed it in the Giro at 21 or whatever and then attacked like 9 times at the Beijing Olympic RR and I thought he was the future of exciting cycling too. Not much to do with the game, I guess, but it's funny how success makes you want more success, which makes you calculated and boring.


CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever - 207 (4 teams) – Caicedo is somewhat a personal favorite, whom I have followed for years and seen racing live several times here in Colombia. He is the reigning Vuelta Colombia winner - Who also won the incredible hard stage-race Clásica Ciudad de Soacha twice in a row, (2016 and 2015)... In Soacha, he went solo on the HC climb San Miguel increased all the way up and held his advantage on Romeral to finish off a fantastic performance. Carapaz was 4th that day finishing well over 2 minutes behind Caicedo. --- Paulo Caicedo who was his trainer between 2013 and 2017 and who also trained Carapaz for 3 years btw, mentioned in an article in El Universo that Caicedo is even stronger than Richard and described him as an outstanding (altitude climber) who also defends himself well against the clock! Now that sounds well and all - and I agree he is a fantastic climber especially at altitude in Colombia, but in Tour of Croatia 2017, Caicedo attacked on the climb up to (SV. Jure) and well he didn't look remotely amazing there, he hardly got a gap and ended the day on an unspectacular 24th place. Its one thing racing at altitude in South America, but on uneven roads and ****** goat-tracks in Europe with much higher speeds leading into the climbs well that's a whole other ball-game. Still worth a punt at that ¨price¨ though.


I knew next to nothing about this rider before reading that paragraph. It's info like that that I really appreciate about this part of the CQ thread.

PADUN Mark - 191 (30 teams) – Padun impressed me highly in the Hammer-Series./Limburg. The day he totally worked over Sivakov and won the event for Bahrain. I also had the classic Valle d'Aosta 2016 in mind. The day he practically followed a guy like Enric Mas all the way up the hideous hideous Piani di Tavagnasco. He crashed the following day on stage 4, only to recover and finish second the next day on Cervinia after a long rage attacked together with Ravasi. Strong as an ox that Padun.


Yeah I had a long look at this guy. Honestly, if I had seen any of his best performances with my eyes (I was travelling or working remotely during all of them last year, so I didn't have time to catch them) I probably would have picked him. But just numbers on a page... well I almost picked him anyways. I'm sure he'll have a good year, but I hope for my sake not too good!
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 05:26

skidmark wrote:In reply to Jakob:

EWAN Caleb - 776 (18 teams) – A few years ago Caleb Ewan was one of the most exciting cycling prospects in the world. Now approaching his mid-twenties, his natural progression curve should hopefully rise even further, allowing him to stamp his authority among the best of the best. I really look forward to seeing how Ewan fares within the renovated Lotto sprint set-up for the new season. I sense a good match. He's got solid support in terms of both firepower (controlling the breakaways) and experienced guys who can deliver him to the line.


I very seriously considered Ewan as well; even though he hasn't really scored higher than last year, his CQ potential was definitely stifled by being left out of the GTs, and also the leadout at Lotto is superior. What do you think is his realistic point total this year? His ceiling? I'd say ~1000-1100 is realistic, ~1400 ceiling? If I didn't feel better about other riders, I'd definitely take him (although I guess that sentence could apply to literally anyone haha)


I never really visualized Ewans final points count for 2019 per se, but I guess if all pans out he could break the 1000 point marker handily. Conservatively, I'm expecting around 1000 points.

Greipel was a formidable ambassador for Lotto and Ewan has inherited the vast majority of his well-oiled machine, there are some X-quantity riders within Lotto as well - for example, Lawrence Naesen himself a huge powerhouse with speed to match (Naesen another victim of mononucléose which has hampered his trajectory so far). In 2019 we hopefully see him flourish as well.

Byriel Iversen a prolific winner on the Italian amateur scene, is also a tall crafty dude if I'm not mistaking? Someone with lots of watts capable of leading the peloton kilometer after kilometer, so the firepower is there besides the more obvious lead-outs on their roster.

I honestly don't know how to rank guys like Groenewegen, Gaviria, Ewan or Viviani on pure speed, but Ewan is defiantly up there, so if everything around his new surroundings falls into place, I defiantly think he should have a good season, without saying too much.
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 08:13

Jakob747 wrote:
I made the GIF above to summarize why I picked Alberto Dainese already this year, despite him only being 20 years of age. Hell of a sprinter, we gonna hear a lot about him in the years to come.

My question is, does SEG ride a CQ points-friendy calender at continental level? Is it more attractive sprinting wise than in 2017 - Where Jakobsen scored 117 points?


Here is SEG's 2018 race schedule. Plenty of .2 races obviously, but also quite a few .1 races.
I guess it's likely that Dainese will go pro next year and will ride as a stagiaire for a big team this fall.
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 08:21

Squire wrote:McNulty is someone I also considered very seriously but didn't pick in the end. I don't think he'll ruin the game for you at all, and he could be sensational. I guess what put me off him was that I can't really be sure what races Rally will and won't do, and that he might waste away in some low-scoring U23 races in late summer instead of riding the American 2.HC races.

That's a concern + the fact he's 20 and an off year is always possible at that age.
Say he doesn't perform well early in the season, how does he cope with that? Hard to know.

Squire wrote:His health is actually a big question mark. I don't quite remember what was wrong with him, but he didn't expect to be ready at the start of this season, which always makes me worried. Your point about Illuminate's schedule is a great one though. I automatically assumed they were one of the 'normal' American conti teams who mainly stayed in North America, but it seems you're absolutely right. So if he recovers, Torres can actually be a fantastic unique pick.

Ouch, I didn't really worry about his health since Illuminate gave him a contract just a few days ago and assumed he went through some medical tests. What are his problems?

Squire wrote:Haha, I've kind of suffered a bit from the same 'fetish', but managed to break free from it this year. I don't think Senni is very inspiring. I'd have preferred Stallaert at 34 points. There are also a couple of good ones at 33 if you could've tolerated 7499. ;)

Yeah, I really wanted Jhojan but 7499 is the epitome of unacceptable for me, so I picked him in another game.
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 08:30

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I made the GIF above to summarize why I picked Alberto Dainese already this year, despite him only being 20 years of age. Hell of a sprinter, we gonna hear a lot about him in the years to come.

My question is, does SEG ride a CQ points-friendy calender at continental level? Is it more attractive sprinting wise than in 2017 - Where Jakobsen scored 117 points?

Dainese is already a beast, but as you point out his race schedule might be a problem this year.
I had him in my shortlist of 50, but then decided to wait another year.
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09 Jan 2019 09:01

I am a first-year player so I wasn't too sure how many expensive riders I should pick. Anyway, here are some thoughts on my selection:

SCHACHMANN Maximilian (777):
Quite risky at this price but I feel like he has much more in him. He will be one of the captains for one-week stage races and hilly classics at BORA, so he’ll get plenty of opportunities to ride for himself. GTs? Not yet…

NIBALI Vincenzo (693):
There was no choice for me really at this price. He has a chance to win the Giro, at least podium. Add to that a stage in le Tour and some good points in the autumn races. Of course, dreams are still there concerning LBL and sometimes dreams come true, like in Sanremo.

POLITT Nils (462):
2018 he showed that he can be among the best in the big classics in Paris-Roubaix. He also improved on shorter hills and was one of the few riders that were showing up in Katusha’s nightmare-season. If the team get their act together, he will become one of the world’s best classics riders.

ARU Fabio (400):
When you are on the ground it can only go uphill, right? His ceiling is immense and it’s only one and a half years since he destroyed the world on La Planche des Belles Filles. He will need to stop getting ill to make big points in GTs, though.

LAMBRECHT Bjorg (337):
From what I saw from him until now, he seems to be quite punchy for a climber. Usually, riders of that type, when they make it to the top level can score very high in the kind of rankings. In his second year as a pro and after a first GT experience I expect him to make that step soon.

MÜHLBERGER Gregor (327):
I was thinking about this one for a long time and now I ended up being the only one who picked him. I can understand that to a degree, however, I feel like he is very versatile for the kind of strong climber he is. This certainly widens the number of races where he can score compared to purer climbers of his calibre.

KUSS Sepp (314):
No rider, that I hadn’t heard of before 2018 impressed me as much as he did. His climbing in Utah was a joy to watch and he also showed some good rides in La Vuelta a bit later. I am looking forward to chear for him.

KITTEL Marcel (296):
Definitely not finished.

KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin (279):
He went to Astana for 2019, that is basically the reason for me to pick him. Aged 20, he finished his first GT and was strong in several pro stage races. I basically expected him to become star at that point but so far it wasn’t to be. I will be very interested to see what he can do in the new environment.

MCNULTY Brandon (273):
First caught my eye with great panache shown on the way to Hatta Dam. Even more impressive was his climbing to me in California. Better GC only prevented by bad luck in the TT. Maybe a bit too early to expect big jumps but I can’t be the only one to see the next big thing from the other side of the big pond right there.

CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban (263):
If he overcomes his health issues, he will automatically score higher.

ARERUYA Joseph (256):
Scored big time on the Africa Tour during the last one and a half years. Now with Delko in Europe and definitely had some acclimatization problems in the beginning. Will he be able to overcome those? Very speculative from me, however, I still expect him to achieve good results in Gabon and Rwanda with a stronger to team by his side now.

MÄDER Gino (255):
Very fun to watch in the U23-Worlds and confirmed that performance impressively in Hainan. I was thinking back and forth between him and Hirschi, in the end I couldn’t resist to have three riders with an ’Ä’ in my line up.

MARTIN Tony (248):
Understandibly one of the more popular picks. Transfer from Katusha to Jumbo can only be beneficial at this point. I expect him to be relegated to a pure helper but also to improve again in the TTs. In the end those will make him score enough points.

ASGREEN Kasper (229):
Some good results in the TTs and part of the World Champion squad already in his first season as a pro. He also completed his first GT and showed impressive climbing and endurance skills in the WCRR. Talented rider and with the current rise of Danish cycling I just had to include one. Lack of freedom could be a problem for him.

COSNEFROY Benoit (229):
My only French rider. A strong ride in Paris-Tours brought him on my radar again and I feel like he is ready to make an important step. He rode a lot of races for a neo pro and a strong finish to the season makes me believe he has what it takes.

DE PLUS Laurens (226):
He showed a lot of promise already despite having so much problems with injuries so far. Could this be an ongoing problem for him? However, he already showed potential in both, mountains and TTs and if he manages to get a clean run he will break through.

O'CONNOR Ben (219):
He already scored my first 15 points, so definitely a good pick. Jokes aside, his climbing potential seems to be enormous and I’m looking forward to following him.

BAUHAUS Phil (196):
Before 2018, I would have expected him to do what Ackermann achieved. Breakthrough in 2019 is fine with me too!

SIVAKOV Pavel (195):
Too many people compare him with Bernal and then conclude that he had a disappointing season. This seems unfair to me because Sivakov was a neo pro in 2018 while Bernal was a third-year pro. It would have been unbelievable had he achieved what Bernal did in 2018. Yet he managed to impress me from time to time, he seems to be a well-rounded rider. For the price, a must-pick for me.

STANNARD Robert (172):
Interesting talent. Being on a young rider trip, I couldn’t resist but pick him. Looking at the Yates’, Mitchelton can be a good team for a young rider to develop.

GESCHKE Simon (172):
A reliable helper for the team over the last few years. At CCC he will enjoy more freedom and should score more points.

MOSER Moreno (157):
Hope dies last.

GARCIA CORTINA Ivan (153):
Strong sprinter with classics potential. Needed a Spaniard in my team.

VLIEGEN Loïc (109):
From BMC to Wanty should be the right step to get back on track. Better than those 109.

ZARIFF Nur Aiman Muhammad (55):
Don’t know much about him, but I wanted a rider for the Asia Tour and so I chose him. Good sprinter with track background. According to a Malaysian news article he is talented as well.

BETTIOL Alberto (50):
Obvious pick.

HÄNNINEN Jaakko (48):
Seriously impressive ride in Innsbruck, had a good season in French amateur races as well so AG2R should be a good fit.

KÄMNA Lennard (37):
Immense talent.

UKINIWABO René Jean Paul (33):
Could score high on the Africa Tour. Not the obvious choice though.

HABTOM Awet Tekle (26):
Room for improvement.

EVENEPOEL Remco, VAKOC Petr (0):
The most obvious zero-pointers for me.


Overall 33 riders from 17 nations:
GER 7
ITA 4
BEL 4
USA 2
ERI 2
RWA 2
AUS 2
AUT 1
COL 1
SUI 1
DEN 1
FRA 1
RUS 1
ESP 1
MAS 1
FIN 1
CZE 1
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Re: The 2019 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

09 Jan 2019 12:51

SafeBet wrote:Ouch, I didn't really worry about his health since Illuminate gave him a contract just a few days ago and assumed he went through some medical tests. What are his problems?

some kind of problem with his leg. Torres said that he hopes to be fine again for 2019, but I would be more worried about Androni terminating his contract than confident about Illuminate signing him, tbh ;)
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09 Jan 2019 14:24

Sestriere wrote: I was thinking back and forth between him and Hirschi, in the end I couldn’t resist to have three riders with an ’Ä’ in my line up.


The most solid reason for a rider pick seen so far.
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09 Jan 2019 15:48

Sestriere wrote:
MARTIN Tony (248):
Understandibly one of the more popular picks. Transfer from Katusha to Jumbo can only be beneficial at this point. I expect him to be relegated to a pure helper but also to improve again in the TTs. In the end those will make him score enough points.

One of my hobby-horses is to dispute this idea that Tony Martin has declined dramatically in TTs. While he is not the dominant force he once was, he has remained one of the 3-4 best riders in long, flat TTs throughout recent years. This is pretty much what you would expect for a rider hitting his mid-thirties.

The problem is just that races so rarely include long, flat TTs these days. The past two world championship courses have been terrible for him. He rode only two long, flat TTs last year--the German championships, which he won, and Giro stage 16, where he was second to Dennis, beating Dumoulin, Van Emden, and Froome. So he was still a top rider in his specialty, but was rarely able to show it.

On the whole, then, this year offers some upside for him, because the World's course won't be quite as bad for him--with no single, large climb--but it is still hardly flat. And it is just not clear to me how many opportunities he will get to ride the kind of TTs in which he excels. Plus he is a year older. So while he will probably be able to match or beat his score from last year, I just didn't the potential for a large upside.
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09 Jan 2019 15:53

Sestriere wrote:According to a Malaysian news article he is talented as well.

Even more solid reasoning. :D

Seriously though, it's a very interesting team, but I feel there are too many wildly uncertain picks for it to be around the top of the standings. But if you hit the target with some of the really obscure ones, you'll at least get some very well-deserved credit!

Jakob747 wrote:I made the GIF above to summarize why I picked Alberto Dainese already this year, despite him only being 20 years of age. Hell of a sprinter, we gonna hear a lot about him in the years to come.

My question is, does SEG ride a CQ points-friendy calender at continental level? Is it more attractive sprinting wise than in 2017 - Where Jakobsen scored 117 points?

That sprint (and a lot of other good sprints too) is one of the reasons why I rate Dainese very, very highly. I was very close to picking him for my own team too, and he was a given in my youth game team.

As for the calendar: I had SEG's Cees Bol as a unique pick last year and he was great for me, scoring 240 points as a zero-pointer. Probably the best unique pick. And he was overage, so he couldn't race U23 races. Still, he had plenty of Belgian and Dutch races where he could get points. He would've gotten even more if Dainese hadn't been the leader for a few of them. ;)
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